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January 22, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
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It's a medieval economy, ffs, with aristocrats and royalties. Democracy is a joke, we actually live in aristocracy.

All the renessaince and enlightenment age is fading away and we are going into barbarous dark ages, where brutality increases again.

WTF is happening in europe, what is all that fucking violence? It's just horible.

Wealth inequality is just 1 sympthom, but the violence is the other, people are very violent these days. Why???

People must become civilized now, and give up this violent bullshit.

Yup indeed.
First step would be to stop attacking random countries I'd say xD

And most important would probably to reach for democracy....
As you said we don't have anything close to that, but it doesn't mean I can't create one Smiley

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January 23, 2017, 10:04:43 AM
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It seems to me that not all the fault of the Church. The poorer the country the less educated people and the more children they have. They have no purpose in life. Children mi is necessary as slaves. Girls are sold into sexual slavery and the boys support their families.

I can't agree with your post. Moldova is one of the poorest countries in the world. And the birth rate is also one of the lowest in the world. The same goes for a few other countries such as Ukraine and North Korea. On the other hand, the world's richest country (Qatar) is also having one of the highest birth rates in the world (3.59 children per woman).

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January 23, 2017, 11:13:22 AM
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It's a medieval economy, ffs, with aristocrats and royalties. Democracy is a joke, we actually live in aristocracy.

All the renessaince and enlightenment age is fading away and we are going into barbarous dark ages, where brutality increases again.

WTF is happening in europe, what is all that fucking violence? It's just horible.

Wealth inequality is just 1 sympthom, but the violence is the other, people are very violent these days. Why???

People must become civilized now, and give up this violent bullshit.

Yup indeed.
First step would be to stop attacking random countries I'd say xD

And most important would probably to reach for democracy....
As you said we don't have anything close to that, but it doesn't mean I can't create one Smiley

Who will do it? And why would a democracy be better than what we have now?

If dumb people let this thing happen as it is now, then what makes you think, that suddenly if everyone had a voice, things will be better? Because it will be the same dumb people voting, who let this happen.

I start to think that humanity is un-saveable, because all evil things have been done with the consent of dumb people.

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January 23, 2017, 03:32:24 PM
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It's a medieval economy, ffs, with aristocrats and royalties. Democracy is a joke, we actually live in aristocracy.

All the renessaince and enlightenment age is fading away and we are going into barbarous dark ages, where brutality increases again.

WTF is happening in europe, what is all that fucking violence? It's just horible.

Wealth inequality is just 1 sympthom, but the violence is the other, people are very violent these days. Why???

People must become civilized now, and give up this violent bullshit.

Yup indeed.
First step would be to stop attacking random countries I'd say xD

And most important would probably to reach for democracy....
As you said we don't have anything close to that, but it doesn't mean I can't create one Smiley

Who will do it? And why would a democracy be better than what we have now?
Who? Well seems like the only one having interest in a democracy would be the people. It has to come from the people because no aristocracy would want a real democracy.

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If dumb people let this thing happen as it is now, then what makes you think, that suddenly if everyone had a voice, things will be better? Because it will be the same dumb people voting, who let this happen.

I start to think that humanity is un-saveable, because all evil things have been done with the consent of dumb people.

No, what was evil was not made with the consent of dumb people but with their inaction.
It's not that people are dumb, it's that they have been educated into stupid beings without any critical thinking.

A true direct democracy would give a lot of power to everyone.
First advantage: no longer corruption and manipulation by the elites. You can corrup 100 deputies, you can't corrup 100millions citizens. Just that would make everything SO BETTER
Second advantage: people would start being interested and learn from politics.
You got majority of people who don't care about politics because they think they can't change anything.

Start giving them power and they'll start thinking about it Wink

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January 23, 2017, 03:44:56 PM
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Who? Well seems like the only one having interest in a democracy would be the people. It has to come from the people because no aristocracy would want a real democracy.


The people are too dumb. Most people dont even know how to read and write, how do you expect things from these people?





No, what was evil was not made with the consent of dumb people but with their inaction.
It's not that people are dumb, it's that they have been educated into stupid beings without any critical thinking.

A true direct democracy would give a lot of power to everyone.
First advantage: no longer corruption and manipulation by the elites. You can corrup 100 deputies, you can't corrup 100millions citizens. Just that would make everything SO BETTER
Second advantage: people would start being interested and learn from politics.
You got majority of people who don't care about politics because they think they can't change anything.

Start giving them power and they'll start thinking about it Wink


I am pretty sure people did love Stalin and Hitler back then, everyone cheered for them, and look what happened!

No people are dumb morons. No amount of education will help this.

You can corrupt 100 million people by giving them welfare, of course you can. It's not like average people are angels.

What makes you think that the averagr guy on the street is anything better than the elite? If he were in his position, he would be exactly the same.

People are dumb and evil, get used to it.

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January 23, 2017, 03:54:36 PM
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I am pretty sure people did love Stalin and Hitler back then, everyone cheered for them, and look what happened!

No people are dumb morons. No amount of education will help this.

You can corrupt 100 million people by giving them welfare, of course you can. It's not like average people are angels.

What makes you think that the averagr guy on the street is anything better than the elite? If he were in his position, he would be exactly the same.

People are dumb and evil, get used to it.

But you are not?
Wahou, glad to know everyone is dumb and evil but YOU ARE NOT and the best is that it's not even thanks to education!
Incredible, how can you be so gifted? Cheesy

Idiot. Arrogant idiot.

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January 23, 2017, 05:01:20 PM
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it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

having a lots of children is not resulting for a poverty. on the early 70's many families have greater than 7 children. but you cant say that they are poor. having a lot of children will not lead you to poverty. being lazy will. even if you have many children but you can manage to educate them all, theres no problem. the thing that leads us to sucess is wisdom and being wise.

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January 23, 2017, 10:57:06 PM
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it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

having a lots of children is not resulting for a poverty. on the early 70's many families have greater than 7 children. but you cant say that they are poor. having a lot of children will not lead you to poverty. being lazy will. even if you have many children but you can manage to educate them all, theres no problem. the thing that leads us to sucess is wisdom and being wise.
Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

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January 24, 2017, 05:48:55 AM
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But you are not?
Wahou, glad to know everyone is dumb and evil but YOU ARE NOT and the best is that it's not even thanks to education!
Incredible, how can you be so gifted? Cheesy

Idiot. Arrogant idiot.


Maybe I am dumb in certain fields (math, physics, chemistry, biology...)


But I am already way beyond other people, in terms of knowing about society and the world. I had a bad education, I had to learn pretty much everything the hard way, on my own.


It's not that I'm gifted, I just use common sense, and try to avoid emotional manipulation. It's the other people who lack these skills. (like you)

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January 24, 2017, 07:06:37 AM
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Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.

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January 24, 2017, 01:02:06 PM
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Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world

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Eight men own the same wealth as the 3.6 billion people who make up the poorest half of humanity, according to a new report published by Oxfam today to mark the annual meeting of political and business leaders in Davos.

Oxfam’s report, ‘An economy for the 99 percent’, shows that the gap between rich and poor is far greater than had been feared. It details how big business and the super-rich are fuelling the inequality crisis by dodging taxes, driving down wages and using their power to influence politics. It calls for a fundamental change in the way we manage our economies so that they work for all people, and not just a fortunate few.

New and better data on the distribution of global wealth – particularly in India and China – indicates that the poorest half of the world has less wealth than had been previously thought.  Had this new data been available last year, it would have shown that nine billionaires owned the same wealth as the poorest half of the planet, and not 62, as Oxfam calculated at the time.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world

But the poor's are too many to handle, i am really impress on what they have done but really they can't many countries are living in a poor life but its okay because we have a fair world to live in but money cannot solve the poor people its their choice of life money can't buy you happiness you know Smiley poor people tend to be poor because they like it but still its a hard life puberty is the main source of being poor having more children and get pregnant on an early age >.< its the government that will solve the poor not money >.<
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January 24, 2017, 01:19:55 PM
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I havent read the article yet but i have probably predicted that bill gates was on the top and then the founder of google larry and facebook i supposed to be part of it as well. More than that i see nothing wrong about it they earned it in the first place anyways


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this situation is gonna change soon by virtue of Bitcoin expansion
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Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.
So it would mean that welfare actually helps people accomplishing themselves? Grin

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Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.

No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

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January 24, 2017, 06:25:44 PM
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Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.

No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.
I agree with you. But not only money makes born in rich families to earn more income. There is still a connection. They agree among themselves and where the ordinary person does not earn the money they earn millions.
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January 24, 2017, 08:23:31 PM
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I agree with you. But not only money makes born in rich families to earn more income. There is still a connection. They agree among themselves and where the ordinary person does not earn the money they earn millions.

Yeah even without taking into account the social aspect with education or things like that, the social groups are important!

It's so much easier to earn money when your dad is the boss of a big company...
You get everything you need. Internships, jobs, studies, formations...

It doesn't mean you didn't earn the money, it's just SO MUCH EASIER for you...

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January 24, 2017, 08:45:44 PM
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I agree with you. But not only money makes born in rich families to earn more income. There is still a connection. They agree among themselves and where the ordinary person does not earn the money they earn millions.

Yeah even without taking into account the social aspect with education or things like that, the social groups are important!

It's so much easier to earn money when your dad is the boss of a big company...
You get everything you need. Internships, jobs, studies, formations...

It doesn't mean you didn't earn the money, it's just SO MUCH EASIER for you...
Even if your ideas are no investors then your relative who owns a big company will provide you the investor and assistance in the implementation of the project. Therefore, people are not equal initially.
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January 25, 2017, 04:30:22 AM
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No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

IMO, the education must be 100% free, up to the University level. In addition to that, the students must get reimbursement for their conveyance and food/stationary expenses. This will help the poor people to grab more opportunities.

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January 25, 2017, 09:12:31 AM
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No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

IMO, the education must be 100% free, up to the University level. In addition to that, the students must get reimbursement for their conveyance and food/stationary expenses. This will help the poor people to grab more opportunities.

WHAT? But...
But...

Weren't you one of those idiot conservatives who think we should all pay everything for ourselves and there should be no taxes and all?
Well I might have confused you with another member but I was pretty sure you were one of those idiots...
My bad though.

Indeed free education is a mandatory step to a developed and rather equal society.
I don't know what I would have become in a USA-kind of country when only the rich can go to university :/

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