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January 17, 2017, 03:36:45 PM
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Hey Guys my name is Dan Cool and im trying to find a way to power a antminer r4 by using a solar panel/wind turbine solution but i cant seem to find any.
Help is much appreciated.
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January 17, 2017, 07:09:32 PM
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Hey Guys my name is Dan Cool and im trying to find a way to power a antminer r4 by using a solar panel/wind turbine solution but i cant seem to find any.
Help is much appreciated.
That is pure crazy here. You must store big energy in backup when there is no wind/solar power.
So power storage is expensive, solar/wind power is expensive, what u trying to acomplish here? To loose money? You can do that easier Smiley

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Hey Guys my name is Dan Cool and im trying to find a way to power a antminer r4 by using a solar panel/wind turbine solution but i cant seem to find any.
Help is much appreciated.
Read the whole post, dude. You can't be running your mining hardware up to 24 hours and it's mean you will never be profitable.

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Running 24/7 isn't gonna help..
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January 18, 2017, 02:24:15 PM
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Just like what other members said above this just a pure crazy thing or idea on planning to have a solar or alternative electricity source on just powering up or operating an R4 miner and planning to have solar mining which we all know that it is expensive to build one and its just really a waste of money and a nonsense step to consider.

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January 18, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
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Hey Guys my name is Dan Cool and im trying to find a way to power a antminer r4 by using a solar panel/wind turbine solution but i cant seem to find any.
Help is much appreciated.
That is pure crazy here. You must store big energy in backup when there is no wind/solar power.
So power storage is expensive, solar/wind power is expensive, what u trying to acomplish here? To loose money? You can do that easier Smiley

for now, i think yes that power energy is expensive but with the new technologies, i think we can buy the equipment when the price is down and we can trying to use in our home. but its need a lot of to do before that energy is ready to use.
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January 18, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html
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January 19, 2017, 11:28:54 AM
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I know guys who are manufacturing solar panels in Europe for export worldwide. If you need cheap ones I can ask them what price they can offer.

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January 19, 2017, 03:11:53 PM
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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html

Buying used solar panels is risky. Normally they go out of order sooner than you expect and fixing them cost money. I don't know about a wind turbine but you can forget about profiting using solar for now.

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January 19, 2017, 03:26:51 PM
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I know guys who are manufacturing solar panels in Europe for export worldwide. If you need cheap ones I can ask them what price they can offer.

I bet since they are manufactured in Europe they are of really high quality. I have seen it take quite a lot of the older Solar panels bolted to a roof facing South, just to heat a swimming pool during the Winter time mid December until mid March in Southern Nevada just outside of Vegas an area known to have historically warmer Winters.

I wonder if a combination of say high end European Manufactured Solar Panels along with one of those Wind Turbines with the 3 ft Titanium Props mounted 30ft in the air on a well secured ground pole. The combination of the wind and solar power produced could be stored in golf cart Batteries that feed into Inverters to convert the energy that then feeds the Bitcoin ASIC Miners. Keep a clean running Natural Gas Generator hooked into the grid to serve as backup on Cloudy/Rainy/Zero Wind days.

Even if a situation  were to be properly fine tuned to work, its my guess that equipment costs which could include construction of specialized fire proof sheds to house all the 12-24 Volt Golf Cart Batteries, Inverters, Proper Cabling, concrete pad poured for the Pole with the mounted Wind Turbine, Solar Panels, Wiring, a couple Antminers and an electrician to over see installation. My guess is you would obtain 50% ROI over 20 years. Granted I am just guessing here, I have no idea if any of this would work in the first place along with no reasonable formulas to come to any conclusion. One gentleman above said it more simply and accurate regarding the massive cost of storing the produced power.

If you are able to power an ASIC Bitcoin Miner like a new Antminer R4 through the use of any clean or renewable energy for a profit or not, please make sure to come back to this thread and keep us updated regarding your progress on such a cool project as this.

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January 19, 2017, 04:49:45 PM
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I believe solar is still too expensive to make a profit using it for mining (for the most part).
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January 19, 2017, 04:56:19 PM
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Hey Guys my name is Dan Cool and im trying to find a way to power a antminer r4 by using a solar panel/wind turbine solution but i cant seem to find any.
Help is much appreciated.
That is pure crazy here. You must store big energy in backup when there is no wind/solar power.
So power storage is expensive, solar/wind power is expensive, what u trying to acomplish here? To loose money? You can do that easier Smiley

Wind turbine as high as two storey i think will be enough. Alternator or maybe a DC motor will do the job, horizontal turbines works well than the vertical by the way. Two large car batteries can last i think. but you may not be able to mine Bitcoin, Asic devices will drain your batteries. you can do it with GPU. ETH or XMR is good.


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January 19, 2017, 06:35:21 PM
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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html

Buying used solar panels is risky. Normally they go out of order sooner than you expect and fixing them cost money. I don't know about a wind turbine but you can forget about profiting using solar for now.

That's are not used but new....in all case i agree that is not best choice, and panels in the link are only for "domestic"use...
Btw, here is a 300 watt  solar wind turbine, place it in yur garden and get your BTC blocks  Grin
http://www.banggood.com/High-Efficiency-300W-DC12V24V-6-Blades-Wind-Turbine-Generator-p-956404.html
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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html

Buying used solar panels is risky. Normally they go out of order sooner than you expect and fixing them cost money. I don't know about a wind turbine but you can forget about profiting using solar for now.

That's are not used but new....in all case i agree that is not best choice, and panels in the link are only for "domestic"use...
Btw, here is a 300 watt  solar wind turbine, place it in yur garden and get your BTC blocks  Grin
http://www.banggood.com/High-Efficiency-300W-DC12V24V-6-Blades-Wind-Turbine-Generator-p-956404.html

The wind generator turbine you are referring to can produce up to 300 Watts Max and it costs approximately $300. You will need four of those for just one Antminer S7. You can do the math to see how "efficient" is that.

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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html

Buying used solar panels is risky. Normally they go out of order sooner than you expect and fixing them cost money. I don't know about a wind turbine but you can forget about profiting using solar for now.

That's are not used but new....in all case i agree that is not best choice, and panels in the link are only for "domestic"use...
Btw, here is a 300 watt  solar wind turbine, place it in yur garden and get your BTC blocks  Grin
http://www.banggood.com/High-Efficiency-300W-DC12V24V-6-Blades-Wind-Turbine-Generator-p-956404.html

The wind generator turbine you are referring to can produce up to 300 Watts Max and it costs approximately $300. You will need four of those for just one Antminer S7. You can do the math to see how "efficient" is that.

In fact you are absolutely right, it's not efficient....my link was referring to OP that said he can't find one....
The problem isn't to find it, but that the revenues from mining with solar/wind energy didn't cover expense....better to mine with traditional power energy  Wink
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Hey Guys my name is Dan Cool and im trying to find a way to power a antminer r4 by using a solar panel/wind turbine solution but i cant seem to find any.
Help is much appreciated.
That is pure crazy here. You must store big energy in backup when there is no wind/solar power.
So power storage is expensive, solar/wind power is expensive, what u trying to acomplish here? To loose money? You can do that easier Smiley

 Asic devices will drain your batteries.

In the logic, if that will be decreasing the lifespan of batteries. And the consumed power has used for running an ASIC, it can be distributing for running some GPU.

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January 22, 2017, 07:25:39 AM
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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html

Buying used solar panels is risky. Normally they go out of order sooner than you expect and fixing them cost money. I don't know about a wind turbine but you can forget about profiting using solar for now.

That's are not used but new....in all case i agree that is not best choice, and panels in the link are only for "domestic"use...
Btw, here is a 300 watt  solar wind turbine, place it in yur garden and get your BTC blocks  Grin
http://www.banggood.com/High-Efficiency-300W-DC12V24V-6-Blades-Wind-Turbine-Generator-p-956404.html

The wind generator turbine you are referring to can produce up to 300 Watts Max and it costs approximately $300. You will need four of those for just one Antminer S7. You can do the math to see how "efficient" is that.

In fact you are absolutely right, it's not efficient....my link was referring to OP that said he can't find one....
The problem isn't to find it, but that the revenues from mining with solar/wind energy didn't cover expense....better to mine with traditional power energy  Wink
It wont really cover the expenses since we all know that using those alternative source of electricity is expensive which means its not really profitable and roi would be longer and we should think that our miners would anytime would bust. SOurce of electricity+ maintenance will cost you a lot.

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January 22, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html

Buying used solar panels is risky. Normally they go out of order sooner than you expect and fixing them cost money. I don't know about a wind turbine but you can forget about profiting using solar for now.

That's are not used but new....in all case i agree that is not best choice, and panels in the link are only for "domestic"use...
Btw, here is a 300 watt  solar wind turbine, place it in yur garden and get your BTC blocks  Grin
http://www.banggood.com/High-Efficiency-300W-DC12V24V-6-Blades-Wind-Turbine-Generator-p-956404.html

The wind generator turbine you are referring to can produce up to 300 Watts Max and it costs approximately $300. You will need four of those for just one Antminer S7. You can do the math to see how "efficient" is that.

In fact you are absolutely right, it's not efficient....my link was referring to OP that said he can't find one....
The problem isn't to find it, but that the revenues from mining with solar/wind energy didn't cover expense....better to mine with traditional power energy  Wink

That's what I'm talking about. Even paying $0.2 per kWh, which is a relatively high price, is more efficient than using solar panels, let alone in places where electricity is cheaper. I'm not sure that the situation is the same with using wind energy though.

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As i see very hard to accmplish the task, maybe you can find some cheap solar panel here
http://www.banggood.com/search/solar-panel/2745-0-0-0-0-0-0-price-0-0_p-1.html

Buying used solar panels is risky. Normally they go out of order sooner than you expect and fixing them cost money. I don't know about a wind turbine but you can forget about profiting using solar for now.
Given the fact that mining by conventional methods is difficult today, one of the possibilities I was considering is a solar powered mining farm, but it seems that there are many variables that make this process complicated to the majority of users. It would be interesting if there were companies providing services related to this, to allow users to have more facility in constituting these farms.
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January 22, 2017, 11:35:19 PM
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It would be interesting if there were companies providing services related to this, to allow users to have more facility in constituting these farms.

There will be.  Soon...  I suspect there isn't enough room for profitability to entice traditional companies, but I'm certain the opportunity for the public to gain solar exposure in the Bitcoin mining space isn't far away.

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