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January 18, 2017, 10:33:46 AM
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I am looking for the smallest hardware in dimensions, that can mine Ethereum, Zcash, Monero

For example, antminer S9 has dimensions 350mm(L) x 135mm(W) x 158mm(H) and size is similar let's say as a UPS.

Can we found something similar in the market?
A miner or a rig (CPU or GPU) in a size as antminer but for Altcoins



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January 18, 2017, 07:16:42 PM
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Thanks Grin

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January 18, 2017, 09:37:00 PM
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Pandaminer is probably the most compact for an 8-card rig, but you can probably build a 2-card rig in a very small "media center" type case with proper part selection.

 Quite a few MicroATX boards around that will suppport 2 GPUs.




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January 19, 2017, 10:57:59 AM
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Pandaminer is probably the most compact for an 8-card rig, but you can probably build a 2-card rig in a very small "media center" type case with proper part selection.

 Quite a few MicroATX boards around that will suppport 2 GPUs.





Indeed, but the efficiency? the cost?
The result would be equivalent to the pandaminer?

I am asking for the "smallest" so to be able to placed inside a rack

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January 19, 2017, 11:15:55 AM
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Pandaminer is probably the most compact for an 8-card rig, but you can probably build a 2-card rig in a very small "media center" type case with proper part selection.

 Quite a few MicroATX boards around that will suppport 2 GPUs.





Indeed, but the efficiency? the cost?
The result would be equivalent to the pandaminer?

I am asking for the "smallest" so to be able to placed inside a rack

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1757132.0

I have also posted some results regarding speed and consumption Smiley

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January 19, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
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I am asking for the "smallest" so to be able to placed inside a rack
pandaminer will not fit in a 19" rack unless you get creative ( 2 of them sideways maybe?)
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Sideways won't let them cool correctly.

 Some sort of a jig to mount 3-5 of them vertically might work - since they have cables going in both ends (IIRC) can't just set them on a shelf on one end (like you COULD do with 2x DragonMiners or Innosilicon A2 units, 3x with a bit of fiddling in most racks).


 In theory, you COULD put a Pandaminer in most standard 19" racks on a shelf - but you'd have to go diagonal with it to get it into the rack, and the rack in question better have a fair bit of extra width behind the rack-mount screws area to allow for that manipulation.



 If you're NOT talking about a 19" rack, but just some sort of shelving-type racks, they should fit in many cases depending on the dimensions of the rack in question.



 

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January 20, 2017, 09:58:49 AM
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Sideways won't let them cool correctly.

 Some sort of a jig to mount 3-5 of them vertically might work - since they have cables going in both ends (IIRC) can't just set them on a shelf on one end (like you COULD do with 2x DragonMiners or Innosilicon A2 units, 3x with a bit of fiddling in most racks).


 In theory, you COULD put a Pandaminer in most standard 19" racks on a shelf - but you'd have to go diagonal with it to get it into the rack, and the rack in question better have a fair bit of extra width behind the rack-mount screws area to allow for that manipulation.



 If you're NOT talking about a 19" rack, but just some sort of shelving-type racks, they should fit in many cases depending on the dimensions of the rack in question.
 

Thanks for your post.
I am referring to a standard network rack, dimension:21.7" X 17.7" X 21.7" which fits standard 19" Rack-Mount Equipment.
So no good...

About the dragon miners and innosilicon, their usage is for altcoins?
How much they cost?
Used or new?
Dimensions?

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January 20, 2017, 01:09:27 PM
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hello
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682003.0
look at that one mate

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The Dragon Miners were an older ASIC for Bitcoin (SHA256) by LKEtc (now part of BW.COM), the Innosilicon A2 Litecoin (Scrypt) miner was based on their design (Innosilicon made the A1 chips for the Dragon miners).

 The Dragons are no longer profitable to run unless you have FREE electric (and iffy then unless you get them VERY cheap), though they are widely reported to have been rock-solid reliable.
 The A2s can still be profitable if your electric rate is low enough, but the recent introduction of their A4 model and the VERY recent introduction of the BitMain Antminer L3 is quickly making them unprofitable for most.

 Both designs were 20" wide, needed a small amount of clearance on one side to allow airflow into the power supply but otherwise were through-flow designs.
 Length varied a little, height was a little less than 7" (if they had been enough narrower, they COULD have been made rack mountable).


 I don't know of any current miner design that was intended for use in a 19" rack mount, though most of the current designs can fit if you put them on rack-mounted shelves.

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The Dragon Miners were an older ASIC for Bitcoin (SHA256) by LKEtc (now part of BW.COM), the Innosilicon A2 Litecoin (Scrypt) miner was based on their design (Innosilicon made the A1 chips for the Dragon miners).

 The Dragons are no longer profitable to run unless you have FREE electric (and iffy then unless you get them VERY cheap), though they are widely reported to have been rock-solid reliable.
 The A2s can still be profitable if your electric rate is low enough, but the recent introduction of their A4 model and the VERY recent introduction of the BitMain Antminer L3 is quickly making them unprofitable for most.

 Both designs were 20" wide, needed a small amount of clearance on one side to allow airflow into the power supply but otherwise were through-flow designs.
 Length varied a little, height was a little less than 7" (if they had been enough narrower, they COULD have been made rack mountable).


 I don't know of any current miner design that was intended for use in a 19" rack mount, though most of the current designs can fit if you put them on rack-mounted shelves.

Thank you QuintLeo
You gave me some useful information
Indeed I may have free electricity and I am in search of what hardware to buy.
Also I am thinking of antminer s7 or 2xs5 but the Bitcoin difficulty stops me from taking the decision

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S5 are money losers unless you have FREE electric.
S7 are money losers unless you have VERY VERY VERY cheap electric (3c kwh might be low enough), but even then they are iffy as to if you'll make back their purchase cost before the become unprofitable.

 I don't have the width of the R4 handy - not sure if those could be rack-mounted on a shelf offhand.

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January 21, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
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If I find them in a good price I will try the
What's consider to be a normal price for S5 and S7 (used of course) plus their power supplies?


Thanks again QuintLeo

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