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Question: Do you want SegWit?
Yes - 88 (67.2%)
No - 19 (14.5%)
I don't know - 24 (18.3%)
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February 02, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
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Are LTC blocks full now?  What is the motivation for LTC users/nodes/miners to adopt LTCSegwit?  How will the LTC experience apply to BTC?
I didn't check, but I highly doubt that they are. You seem to forget that the added capacity of Segwit is a side-bonus and not the main goal of that improvement. You should look into the list of benefits that it provides again.

oh and if you were around in 2013 and remember the mega orphan chain due to the levelDB bug..
guess who caused it..
yep SIPA. the guy you trust to offer sgwit, and implement it without nodes being ready...
couldnt even sort out a database 4 years ago
In other words: BU developers are now as good as Core developers were 4 years ago, if not worse? Cheesy

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February 02, 2017, 10:35:28 AM
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75% people voted "want SegWit", which is not a surprise at all. SegWit is the trend, after its implementation, bitcoin can be more faster and flexible, big block size with softfork means no big hazard to bitcoin, including no price dump. IMO SegWit will be implemented within 3 months.

Point of clarification , it does not matter if the entire planet earth wanted segwit.

As long as the Chinese Mining Pools don't want it, it can't happen.

That is their advantage since they have over ~68% control of BTC, and there is literally nothing the rest of you can do about it except use a different coin.

So Cry in here all you want , China is your BTC Daddy!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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February 02, 2017, 10:40:23 AM
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Are LTC blocks full now?  What is the motivation for LTC users/nodes/miners to adopt LTCSegwit?  How will the LTC experience apply to BTC?
I didn't check, but I highly doubt that they are. You seem to forget that the added capacity of Segwit is a side-bonus and not the main goal of that improvement. You should look into the list of benefits that it provides again.

oh and if you were around in 2013 and remember the mega orphan chain due to the levelDB bug..
guess who caused it..
yep SIPA. the guy you trust to offer sgwit, and implement it without nodes being ready...
couldnt even sort out a database 4 years ago
In other words: BU developers are now as good as Core developers were 4 years ago, if not worse? Cheesy

Don't you mean LN Developers.  Wink

LTC has OnChain Transaction capacity to spare, and their miners have not finished voting for it , so it may fail with them too.
Segwit is a stupid idea , to move all of you Yahoos to their Offchain LN, (might as well just use a bank.)

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February 02, 2017, 10:42:21 AM
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75% people voted "want SegWit", which is not a surprise at all. SegWit is the trend, after its implementation, bitcoin can be more faster and flexible, big block size with softfork means no big hazard to bitcoin, including no price dump. IMO SegWit will be implemented within 3 months.

If you know the technical benefits of Segwit then you will obviously vote for a Yes. Importantly "Malleability Fixes" should have been done long ago, But still, there are people/hackers who maleate with the transactions. Another valuable benefit is increase in the Block size increase. Segwit will give a brighter future to Bitcoin for sure.

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February 02, 2017, 10:46:40 AM
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75% people voted "want SegWit", which is not a surprise at all. SegWit is the trend, after its implementation, bitcoin can be more faster and flexible, big block size with softfork means no big hazard to bitcoin, including no price dump. IMO SegWit will be implemented within 3 months.

If you know the technical benefits of Segwit then you will obviously vote for a Yes. Importantly "Malleability Fixes" should have been done long ago, But still, there are people/hackers who maleate with the transactions. Another valuable benefit is increase in the Block size increase. Segwit will give a brighter future to Bitcoin for sure.

Then how do you explain the fact , No one has voted for it over the initial 30%.  hmmm?  Cheesy
https://coin.dance/blocks
Explicit Mining Pool Support by Proposal
SegWit                    23.1%
Bitcoin Unlimited      22.2%
8 MB Blocks               8.1%

Looks like unlimited is catching up .  Cheesy
Probably Pass it in the next month or so.
Man, you BTC guys take forever to make a decision, it is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.  Tongue

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April 16, 2017, 10:25:45 AM
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75% people voted "want SegWit", which is not a surprise at all. SegWit is the trend, after its implementation, bitcoin can be more faster and flexible, big block size with softfork means no big hazard to bitcoin, including no price dump. IMO SegWit will be implemented within 3 months.
No big hazard - yes, because the same coins would not be able to be spent twice and the blockchain will not face hard fork. However, this is just a temporary solution, as far as I understand.
Bitcoin being faster - no. As the signature will be in the extended block, it will take more time to become confirmed and even the price of transaction fee is likely to grow.
Nevertheless, I vote for Segwit, because at least it will save btc from some big problems and will give time to come up with something better.

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April 16, 2017, 12:32:49 PM
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Clearly, I vote yes. SegWit is actually the best way to get out of both the Bitcoin Unlimited crisis and the low velocity of the network caused by attacks from Bitcoin Unlimited. I once show a nice and interesting scheme explaining SegWit, but I do not remember who posted it and what it described exactly, beside objects in a box. Seeing it immediatly ot me onboard !
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April 16, 2017, 01:13:50 PM
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At this point if your voting no your ether a shill or a fool.

(I am a 1MB block supporter who thinks all users should be using Full-Node clients)
Avoid the XT shills, they only want to destroy bitcoin, their hubris and greed will destroy us.
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April 16, 2017, 01:34:03 PM
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since this topic is old and there are already enough discussion on this matter i am going to lock the topic for now (it was bumped after 2 months!).

you can also see a similar and more complete version of this POLL here:
SegWit, Unlimited, both, neither, etc

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