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February 09, 2017, 07:46:39 PM
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Well, the rely on one another. plus Jack Ma has been in talks with Trump so i doubt it would bring a war.... They will solve it in the end.
And I'm sure that there will be no war. Unless you mean a trade war. If a trade war then she had to go and not only with China. Now there is a global trade war. I don't think she will grow into a hot war.

China has just positioned their ICBM's to retaliate just in case pepe is going crazy.
It seems to me that nuclear weapons are a fetish. Not in vain had spent a lot of money for its creation and maintenance periodically they must reveal it to other countries. So they have shown. Nuclear war will not.
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February 10, 2017, 05:37:07 PM
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People are very aggressive animals and can't live without wars. Wars help control the overpopulation of the planet and stimulate the economy. Can to prevent them is not possible and we need to accept this fact?

What if it is the other way around? Frequent conflicts encourage people to produce more children, and it affects the popularization of family planning. If you look at the list of nations with the highest birth rate, you will notice that almost all of them are conflict-prone.

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February 10, 2017, 08:32:38 PM
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People are very aggressive animals and can't live without wars. Wars help control the overpopulation of the planet and stimulate the economy. Can to prevent them is not possible and we need to accept this fact?

What if it is the other way around? Frequent conflicts encourage people to produce more children, and it affects the popularization of family planning. If you look at the list of nations with the highest birth rate, you will notice that almost all of them are conflict-prone.
Not all of them. In Russia, for example, the death rate exceeds the birth rate but this is a very conflicted country. I think fertility depends on the education. The more educated a country the less the birth rate.
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February 11, 2017, 08:28:15 AM
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People are very aggressive animals and can't live without wars. Wars help control the overpopulation of the planet and stimulate the economy. Can to prevent them is not possible and we need to accept this fact?

What if it is the other way around? Frequent conflicts encourage people to produce more children, and it affects the popularization of family planning. If you look at the list of nations with the highest birth rate, you will notice that almost all of them are conflict-prone.
Not all of them. In Russia, for example, the death rate exceeds the birth rate but this is a very conflicted country. I think fertility depends on the education. The more educated a country the less the birth rate.
I think, it is also a matter of discipline. If there are certain education/knowledge, it isn't worth it if there is no discipline.
 The knowledge about family planning is there, the only problem is that, people disobey. They are aware of that issue, however they refused to tend on it.
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February 11, 2017, 10:59:41 AM
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Well, the rely on one another. plus Jack Ma has been in talks with Trump so i doubt it would bring a war.... They will solve it in the end.
And I'm sure that there will be no war. Unless you mean a trade war. If a trade war then she had to go and not only with China. Now there is a global trade war. I don't think she will grow into a hot war.

China has just positioned their ICBM's to retaliate just in case pepe is going crazy.
It seems to me that nuclear weapons are a fetish. Not in vain had spent a lot of money for its creation and maintenance periodically they must reveal it to other countries. So they have shown. Nuclear war will not.

In this hypothetical scenario, the US. Simply because China lacks the ability to project it's power to the US mainland. And if either of them are stupid enough to start using nukes, the US has many times more of them then China does.
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February 11, 2017, 05:09:21 PM
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In this hypothetical scenario, the US. Simply because China lacks the ability to project it's power to the US mainland. And if either of them are stupid enough to start using nukes, the US has many times more of them then China does.

Hmm.... the Chinese ICBMs are not as good as the American ones. But the situation will change if Russia provides them with the latest nuclear-capable ballistic missiles.

Not all of them. In Russia, for example, the death rate exceeds the birth rate but this is a very conflicted country. I think fertility depends on the education. The more educated a country the less the birth rate.

Why don't you Ukrainian spammers stay away from mentioning Russia in each and every topic here? For your kind information, the birth rate in Russia is more than the death rate. In Ukraine, it is the other way around.

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February 11, 2017, 05:21:11 PM
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In this hypothetical scenario, the US. Simply because China lacks the ability to project it's power to the US mainland. And if either of them are stupid enough to start using nukes, the US has many times more of them then China does.

Hmm.... the Chinese ICBMs are not as good as the American ones. But the situation will change if Russia provides them with the latest nuclear-capable ballistic missiles.

Not all of them. In Russia, for example, the death rate exceeds the birth rate but this is a very conflicted country. I think fertility depends on the education. The more educated a country the less the birth rate.

Why don't you Ukrainian spammers stay away from mentioning Russia in each and every topic here? For your kind information, the birth rate in Russia is more than the death rate. In Ukraine, it is the other way around.
So Russian trolls react to criticism and are trying to hide that they are Russian. What's more, you manipulated data. The increase of the population even according to official statistics, due to the influx of migrants. But who do believe to Russian statistics?
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Re chinese ICBM's:

Please look up the chinese DF-41 which they just stationated at the russian border.
It is a mirv capable of carring up to 10 nuclear warheads with a top speed of Mach 25 and a working range of up to 12.000 km. The fastest known ICBM out of testing which the chinese just targeted at the US (it can't hit russia from that position and europe is no enemy).

It can easily comepete with the russian SS-18.


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February 11, 2017, 05:37:32 PM
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Re chinese ICBM's:

Please look up the chinese DF-41 which they just stationated at the russian border.
It is a mirv capable of carring up to 10 nuclear warheads with a top speed of Mach 25 and a working range of up to 12.000 km. The fastest known ICBM out of testing which the chinese just targeted at the US (it can't hit russia from that position and europe is no enemy).

It can easily comepete with the russian SS-18.


It is Russian, so trying to persuade myself? The aggressive policy of Russia are all neighbors. Show at least one neighboring state with Russia that says Russia is peaceful? China is no exception. These missiles are against Russia!
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Re chinese ICBM's:

Please look up the chinese DF-41 which they just stationated at the russian border.
It is a mirv capable of carring up to 10 nuclear warheads with a top speed of Mach 25 and a working range of up to 12.000 km. The fastest known ICBM out of testing which the chinese just targeted at the US (it can't hit russia from that position and europe is no enemy).

It can easily comepete with the russian SS-18.


It is Russian, so trying to persuade myself? The aggressive policy of Russia are all neighbors. Show at least one neighboring state with Russia that says Russia is peaceful? China is no exception. These missiles are against Russia!
I agree with you. Russian pretty strange people. Now Trump is not understandable political game with Putin. I don't understand why he does it, but I think that soon he will play to the impeachment.
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Re chinese ICBM's:

Please look up the chinese DF-41 which they just stationated at the russian border.
It is a mirv capable of carring up to 10 nuclear warheads with a top speed of Mach 25 and a working range of up to 12.000 km. The fastest known ICBM out of testing which the chinese just targeted at the US (it can't hit russia from that position and europe is no enemy).

It can easily comepete with the russian SS-18.


It is Russian, so trying to persuade myself? The aggressive policy of Russia are all neighbors. Show at least one neighboring state with Russia that says Russia is peaceful? China is no exception. These missiles are against Russia!

The DF-41 is a long range ICBM.
For over a decade the chinese have short and mid range ballistic missiles like the df-21 which are way more accurate stationed near russia. That are the ones russia has to fear.

The newly stationed df-41 are a detterence tool directed against the US.
And the possible reason for the location is that the US cant use air dominance to destroy them because an attack on china in Heilongjiang could be seens as a first strike against russia.

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February 11, 2017, 08:26:04 PM
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Re chinese ICBM's:

Please look up the chinese DF-41 which they just stationated at the russian border.
It is a mirv capable of carring up to 10 nuclear warheads with a top speed of Mach 25 and a working range of up to 12.000 km. The fastest known ICBM out of testing which the chinese just targeted at the US (it can't hit russia from that position and europe is no enemy).

It can easily comepete with the russian SS-18.


It is Russian, so trying to persuade myself? The aggressive policy of Russia are all neighbors. Show at least one neighboring state with Russia that says Russia is peaceful? China is no exception. These missiles are against Russia!

The DF-41 is a long range ICBM.
For over a decade the chinese have short and mid range ballistic missiles like the df-21 which are way more accurate stationed near russia. That are the ones russia has to fear.

The newly stationed df-41 are a detterence tool directed against the US.
And the possible reason for the location is that the US cant use air dominance to destroy them because an attack on china in Heilongjiang could be seens as a first strike against russia.
I'm sure that open war between America and China will not. The Americans will try to economically crush the Chinese economy. If this does not work then it may be a war. The prerequisites for the war there .
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February 11, 2017, 09:56:57 PM
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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Nations like China could possibly survive and grow stronger from the experience of an American attack in the style of Shock-and-Awe against the government headquarters. Consider a war conducted similar to the War in Iraq 2003. The Americans could, hypothetically conduct an assault on its regime and topple it in the same way as we did with Iraq. For the Chinese, however, though the buildings may be hollowed, the offices remain. By this I mean that the political structure will remain and they have a ruling class, the Chinese Communist Party, with many who would be capable of filling several roles and replace others once they fall.
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February 12, 2017, 10:17:57 AM
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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Well china is one strong country they don't easily quit and russia is on their side so it's really tough of a country but really the United States will never be beaten by just those countries but really trump is a wise man he will get through this without war i hope so >.< but to truly understand why trump is accusing china a big problem is just to make china fall because its a big country and the most powerful of them and very crowded Smiley i hope war will not go with it
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February 12, 2017, 11:17:26 AM
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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Well china is one strong country they don't easily quit and russia is on their side so it's really tough of a country but really the United States will never be beaten by just those countries but really trump is a wise man he will get through this without war i hope so >.< but to truly understand why trump is accusing china a big problem is just to make china fall because its a big country and the most powerful of them and very crowded Smiley i hope war will not go with it
Trump is a very stupid man. He flirts with Putin that the Russians are not United with the Chinese, but they do not. First, China has territorial claims to Russia, and secondly, the Chinese have long inhabited the far East and only waiting for the signal to join the China.
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February 12, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
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Well china is one strong country they don't easily quit and russia is on their side so it's really tough of a country but really the United States will never be beaten by just those countries but really trump is a wise man he will get through this without war i hope so >.< but to truly understand why trump is accusing china a big problem is just to make china fall because its a big country and the most powerful of them and very crowded Smiley i hope war will not go with it

It will be next to impossible for the United States to defeat a Russia-China alliance. If Trump is wise, he will wage war using proxies rather than declaring an open all out war against these two countries. But then, I don't think that there is a significant chance of any such confrontation occurring in the near future.

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February 12, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Well china is one strong country they don't easily quit and russia is on their side so it's really tough of a country but really the United States will never be beaten by just those countries but really trump is a wise man he will get through this without war i hope so >.< but to truly understand why trump is accusing china a big problem is just to make china fall because its a big country and the most powerful of them and very crowded Smiley i hope war will not go with it

Well, the two country namely: united states and china are one of the strongest and bravest country in the world, i dont think if one of them accepts the fact that they lose in war. They both a really strong country but if theres a country would win then of course theres a country who lose too. China also many alliance that will help them in war, also united states also have, both of the country are becoming wiser and wiser so just be friends so that no war, no result to many innocent people will die Smiley
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February 12, 2017, 04:20:08 PM
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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Well china is one strong country they don't easily quit and russia is on their side so it's really tough of a country but really the United States will never be beaten by just those countries but really trump is a wise man he will get through this without war i hope so >.< but to truly understand why trump is accusing china a big problem is just to make china fall because its a big country and the most powerful of them and very crowded Smiley i hope war will not go with it

Well, the two country namely: united states and china are one of the strongest and bravest country in the world, i dont think if one of them accepts the fact that they lose in war. They both a really strong country but if theres a country would win then of course theres a country who lose too. China also many alliance that will help them in war, also united states also have, both of the country are becoming wiser and wiser so just be friends so that no war, no result to many innocent people will die Smiley
Unfortunately in politics there is no concept of friendship. In politics there is a concept of temporal interests. Countries such as the US and China's interests do not coincide because the development of one country is due to the decline of another country.
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February 13, 2017, 12:37:24 AM
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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Well china is one strong country they don't easily quit and russia is on their side so it's really tough of a country but really the United States will never be beaten by just those countries but really trump is a wise man he will get through this without war i hope so >.< but to truly understand why trump is accusing china a big problem is just to make china fall because its a big country and the most powerful of them and very crowded Smiley i hope war will not go with it

Well, the two country namely: united states and china are one of the strongest and bravest country in the world, i dont think if one of them accepts the fact that they lose in war. They both a really strong country but if theres a country would win then of course theres a country who lose too. China also many alliance that will help them in war, also united states also have, both of the country are becoming wiser and wiser so just be friends so that no war, no result to many innocent people will die Smiley
Unfortunately in politics there is no concept of friendship. In politics there is a concept of temporal interests. Countries such as the US and China's interests do not coincide because the development of one country is due to the decline of another country.

Yes i agree to you haha its kinda joke when i said united states and china should be friends. In US and china, friendship is not part of their vocabulary, this country as well is very hot since they are the richest country, the things they have is very productive and new(e.g.,guns), improving country and more stronger than before
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February 13, 2017, 12:40:52 AM
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This can very much happen now
the way this president talks about that country
you can just tell he just hates them and all that
they stand for.

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