OMG I think Pulithey1986 scammed me!!

[tricklespot]

What happened:

If you guys look at my post history I asked for someone to do an exchange with me I send my upwork freelance funds directly to the person in exchange for bitcoin.

Pulithey1986 was on time to receive bitcoin but when he received he went offline on ICQ.

I messaged him a million times I also left him a PM on here. he come oneline since that time and did not even answer my PM

I went to check his trust again and it says: This user's email address was changed recently.

I think me might have scammed a last one before he left. he got away with 417$ of my paypal.

I hope this is not true but all these events seem to look like I've been scammed. since it's my upwork and I have his name I think I can notify authorities. but I don't think I can recover my funds.


Scammers profile link:
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=689486

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1745903.msg17465174#msg17465174


Amount Scammed:
$417

Payment method:
From my Upwork account straight to his paypal [no chargeback possible]

Proof of payment:

http://imgur.com/gallery/eaqHL9i

I think trusted people who have done trades with him before can confirm the name? if he was not smart enough to use a different email

PM Logs:

Hi, if you still need someone to cashout your paypal/payoneer i can do it for you

till need someone to do it for me. A few questions tho what rate will you give me since there is no risk?(there is for me once I press send Upwork can't touch the money anymore so I can't get it back if you run)

also will I immediately get my bitcoin once you see the Upwork money arrive?

and finally can I have your ICQ or skype in-case you are the right person to deal with

1. Hi there is no chance of reversals but you do have to understand that I am not in the US so paypal withdrawal has a 5%, if you use payoneer then I won't have any extra charges except for the $5 withdrawal fee. Let me know if your using Payoneer or Paypal to do the withdrawal and how much so I can do the calculations and we can discuss the fees.

2. Yes, I always pay my clients right after I receive the payment.

3. My ICQ: 686974098

Please use this forum to send me a PM for a quicker response if I am not online on ICQ since I don't really use it that much, but I login when I get an sms here.

Additional notes:

It's been 11 hours since I last heard a word from him/send. but if you check the last time he was online it's not that long ago.

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[mocacinno]

Sorry to hear you got scammed, but could you please follow the correct scam report format?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

It makes it a lot easyer for people on the default trust network to verify your claims, and tag the (potential) scammer if they feel you have a valid point.

The main thing i'm missing in your report:
- Link to the scammer's profile
- Screenshots of any ICQ communication
- tx id of the payment
- some proof the icq address is connected to the bitcointalk user.

[target]

If you guys look at my post history I asked for someone to do an exchange with me I send my upwork freelance funds directly to the person in exchange for bitcoin.

Pulithey1986 was on time to receive bitcoin but when he received he went offline on ICQ.

I messaged him a million times I also left him a PM on here. he come oneline since that time and did not even answer my PM

I went to check his trust again and it says: This user's email address was changed recently.

I think me might have scammed a big one before he left. he got away with 417$ of my paypal.

I hope this is not true but all these events seem to look like I've been scammed. since it's my upwork and I have his name I think I can notify authorities. but I don't think I can recover my funds.

How did you ever send your upwork funds directly to this person? Do you mean you changed your upwork email account using his (Pulithey1986) to send to him?
I'm from upwork too so I know how this all work. You can't send your upwork funds to someone else unless the email used in the account is also the PayPal id.

Anyway, if you've sent your money through PayPal, you can try to file a dispute to get your money back.

[tricklespot]

If you guys look at my post history I asked for someone to do an exchange with me I send my upwork freelance funds directly to the person in exchange for bitcoin.

Pulithey1986 was on time to receive bitcoin but when he received he went offline on ICQ.

I messaged him a million times I also left him a PM on here. he come oneline since that time and did not even answer my PM

I went to check his trust again and it says: This user's email address was changed recently.

I think me might have scammed a big one before he left. he got away with 417$ of my paypal.

I hope this is not true but all these events seem to look like I've been scammed. since it's my upwork and I have his name I think I can notify authorities. but I don't think I can recover my funds.

How did you ever send your upwork funds directly to this person? Do you mean you changed your upwork email account using his (Pulithey1986) to send to him?
I'm from upwork too so I know how this all work. You can't send your upwork funds to someone else unless the email used in the account is also the PayPal id.

Anyway, if you've sent your money through PayPal, you can try to file a dispute to get your money back.

Yes I have given Pulithey the email I have on my upwork to add to his paypal. then gave him confirmation link and send.

as you know Upwork doesn't care once you send.

[Lauda]

I've tagged the user in question. Let's see whether they will respond. You should also add screenshots of the PM logs (URL links please; do not embed huge images). The part of your post in which the proof is contained is also somewhat broken, as there is either an missing '[ code] tag or an extra '[/ code]' tag (without the space), depending on what you wanted to do.[1]
There is also this:

This user's email address was changed recently.

Update:
[1] - Never mind. You fixed it.

[tricklespot]

I've tagged the user in question. Let's see whether they will respond. You should also add screenshots of the PM logs (URL links please; do not embed huge images). The part of your post in which the proof is contained is also somewhat broken, as there is either an missing '[ code] tag or an extra '[/ code]' tag (without the space), depending on what you wanted to do.[1]
There is also this:

This user's email address was changed recently.

Update:
[1] - Never mind. You fixed it.

Yes, I'm waiting for a response if he doesn't do this within the next 12 hours I will post everything I have including the ICQ messages I have already screen captured them. I am hoping to resolve this as giving him red trust does not help me get my money back.

[tricklespot]

UPDATE: It seems he did run with my 417$ because he went offlne immediately after I sent but it seems he had time to remove the email of mine from his paypal.

It's already been 24 hours in the meantime.

Oh well I paid off another scammer account for us all. so he'll have to start back from fase 1 and be back to scam in 2019 for his other 400$

pathetic some people

[ice18]

oh its a big money, why you didn't use an escrow for this transaction?

[falala69]

Just a lil search (I could not post a reply on your another thread), hope it could help you

Based on Siphesihle Mtukwane:
1. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AC_9BVGlCJ8J:matric.ewn.co.za/dbe/2008/eastern-cape/0200400272/1147169/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=id
2. https://www.linkedin.com/in/siphesile-mtukwane-5bb15191

Hypothesis:
1. He is from Holy Cross Senior Secondary School in Eastern Cape
2. His phone number: 0833434051
3. His e-mail: flowchle@gmail.com

Based on email that I found on LinkedIn:
1. https://www.facebook.com/flowchle

Hypothesis:
1. His school looks same with prev result (Anyone in South Africa could confirm it?)
2. He is working in Vodacom Regional Office

Based on Pulithey1986:
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1425479.msg14423397#msg14423397
2. https://www.epicnpc.com/postings.php?do=getip&p=5102363 (You need to register first to be able to see it)

Hypothesis:
1. His post on epicnpc indicate from South Africa (xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.telkomadsl.co.za)
2. His post on bitcointalk thread reveal that he is from South Africa/Cape Town

Based on ICQ Number:
1. https://icq.com/people/686974098

Hypothesis:
1. His name: John Dorian
2. His city: Durban
3. His country: South Africa
4. His birthday: 04 April

Honestly I really do not think you could get your money back, even if you purse him to his country it will cost you huge money

[tricklespot]

Just a lil search (I could not post a reply on your another thread), hope it could help you

Based on Siphesihle Mtukwane:
1. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AC_9BVGlCJ8J:matric.ewn.co.za/dbe/2008/eastern-cape/0200400272/1147169/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=id
2. https://www.linkedin.com/in/siphesile-mtukwane-5bb15191

Hypothesis:
1. He is from Holy Cross Senior Secondary School in Eastern Cape
2. His phone number: 0833434051
3. His e-mail: flowchle@gmail.com

Based on email that I found on LinkedIn:
1. https://www.facebook.com/flowchle

Hypothesis:
1. His school looks same with prev result (Anyone in South Africa could confirm it?)
2. He is working in Vodacom Regional Office

Based on Pulithey1986:
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1425479.msg14423397#msg14423397
2. https://www.epicnpc.com/postings.php?do=getip&p=5102363 (You need to register first to be able to see it)

Hypothesis:
1. His post on epicnpc indicate from South Africa (xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.telkomadsl.co.za)
2. His post on bitcointalk thread reveal that he is from South Africa/Cape Town

Based on ICQ Number:
1. https://icq.com/people/686974098

Hypothesis:
1. His name: John Dorian
2. His city: Durban
3. His country: South Africa

Honestly I really do not think you could get your money back, even if you purse him to his country it will cost you huge cost  

It's not about the cost I don't care if I have to spend 1k to get him to see that not all people online will say fuck it.

[falala69]

If cost (and time) does not matter to you, you could reach everyone that had a deal with him before and hope it could lead to new information.

You maybe should not ask his e-email address, because when I do a quick peek on his post history, he bought a lot of an e-mail. 

[gt_addict]

Well the claimant has contacted me and called me "suspicious" because i had one deal a while ago with Pullithey1986. I dont think thats anyway to conduct investigations. I have politely asked him to stop messaging me and acxusing me of being suspicious as Im not.

[kirch]

Sorry for your Loss OP
you should have used escrow in first place,cos this forum allows trading/selling of accounts
You should not trust any member who  has thousands of post or tons pf positive feedbacks,cos it will not matter as a similar new account can be bought for a $100 bucks (and scam again)

[tricklespot]

Sorry for your Loss OP
you should have used escrow in first place,cos this forum allows trading/selling of accounts
You should not trust any member who  has thousands of post or tons pf positive feedbacks,cos it will not matter as a similar new account can be bought for a $100 bucks (and scam again)

learned my lesson I don't trust anyone online anymore especially not on this forum. The account levels don't mean anything