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February 03, 2017, 03:03:38 PM

This post is just complete horseshit, the only thing about Trumps executive action on abortion is that he is cutting the funding in which taxpayers paid to go to INTERNATIONAL efforts to support abortion in other countries. I don't know about you, but I don't want my hard earned money going to someone in Canada, Mexico, Brazil, ETC fight abortion.

I don't think it matters if you like abortion or not on this one, I just wouldn't support my money going to such a -- I guess dumb thing. 

As a developed nation, the United States is obliged to grant funds to the developing nations such as Mexico and Brazil. This has been going on for the past many decades. These funds are spent on improving the healthcare in these countries. If abortion is legal in these nations, then a part of the funds go towards it as well.
I do not believe that the United States of America have to Finance less developed countries. Can't America for its citizens to provide good and affordable health care. To help make money need and no more.

America is funding many nations due to its humanitarian goals. Though the term funding does not meat that they are sending money monthly to those countries. The fund comes in one time big time, but sad to say that they are giving away a million dollar towards other countries but they are taking away more than that. Hope Trump will change that system and I support Trump for abolishing abortion rights. The fetus has a right to life.
Tell me who gave you the right to Trump, or decide for a woman has the right to life of her fetus or not. Dispose of your destiny and mind your own. Woman you're not an incubator for growing embryos!
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February 04, 2017, 10:55:42 AM

I agree with most of Trump's policies, but I don't agree with this one. Abortion must be legal (with the exception of partial birth abortion). Why create orphans, if the parents are not interested in raising the child? Also, sometimes if the fetus is not aborted, it can result in health complications for the mother. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

I am not from US but I will share my opinion. I am with Trump to stop legalize abortion. In the first place why is that you would make a baby then abort it if you can stop it by using contraceptives? The baby in the womb is not a trash that you simply abort it if you don't want it.
It is a human like you that has a will to live and experience the world.

Just my opinion.

I agree with you! I am also not living in US, but in this case I'm totally agreed with Trump, because having a baby is a blessing from above. Maybe it comes unexpected but its not a mistake or sin. So if really legalize then everyone is free to f*ck everyone then if he gets pregnant its fine just throw it like a garbage. Its really a sin for Him.

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February 04, 2017, 11:17:36 AM

I agree with most of Trump's policies, but I don't agree with this one. Abortion must be legal (with the exception of partial birth abortion). Why create orphans, if the parents are not interested in raising the child? Also, sometimes if the fetus is not aborted, it can result in health complications for the mother. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

I am not from US but I will share my opinion. I am with Trump to stop legalize abortion. In the first place why is that you would make a baby then abort it if you can stop it by using contraceptives? The baby in the womb is not a trash that you simply abort it if you don't want it.
It is a human like you that has a will to live and experience the world.

Just my opinion.

I agree with you! I am also not living in US, but in this case I'm totally agreed with Trump, because having a baby is a blessing from above. Maybe it comes unexpected but its not a mistake or sin. So if really legalize then everyone is free to f*ck everyone then if he gets pregnant its fine just throw it like a garbage. Its really a sin for Him.
As for such means sex you offer you are probably from a Muslim country. There is practiced but for a different reason. I am against Trump and against his delusions. Trump is an evil that plunges America into the dark ages.
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February 04, 2017, 12:17:31 PM

I agree with most of Trump's policies, but I don't agree with this one. Abortion must be legal (with the exception of partial birth abortion). Why create orphans, if the parents are not interested in raising the child? Also, sometimes if the fetus is not aborted, it can result in health complications for the mother. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

I am not from US but I will share my opinion. I am with Trump to stop legalize abortion. In the first place why is that you would make a baby then abort it if you can stop it by using contraceptives? The baby in the womb is not a trash that you simply abort it if you don't want it.
It is a human like you that has a will to live and experience the world.

Just my opinion.

I agree with you! I am also not living in US, but in this case I'm totally agreed with Trump, because having a baby is a blessing from above. Maybe it comes unexpected but its not a mistake or sin. So if really legalize then everyone is free to f*ck everyone then if he gets pregnant its fine just throw it like a garbage. Its really a sin for Him.
As for such means sex you offer you are probably from a Muslim country. There is practiced but for a different reason. I am against Trump and against his delusions. Trump is an evil that plunges America into the dark ages.

Abortion is very complex and difficult matter.
Many woman wants to have baby but can't because of some physical or medical reason.
Some woman tried and had miscarriage.
From other side, some woman was to young, naive and without any support when they became pregnant, so they chose abortion.
Can we simple judge them without understanding their situation?
I think that government and social services should help both type of woman.
Second group of woman should receive legal, medical and financial assistance in order to decide to have baby, and after birth of a child state should take care about these children and help first group of woman to adopt them (if their mothers can't take care about them).
Such approach is much better than punishments.
 


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February 04, 2017, 01:03:57 PM

I agree with you! I am also not living in US, but in this case I'm totally agreed with Trump, because having a baby is a blessing from above. Maybe it comes unexpected but its not a mistake or sin. So if really legalize then everyone is free to f*ck everyone then if he gets pregnant its fine just throw it like a garbage. Its really a sin for Him.

They are not throwing away kids like garbage. You can't compare a fertilized egg or a fetus with a baby. A baby is having a life which is independent of its own. But a fetus will not survive without the blood and nutrients from the placenta. Therefore it is up to the woman to decide whether they want to abort the fetus or not.

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I agree with most of Trump's policies, but I don't agree with this one. Abortion must be legal (with the exception of partial birth abortion). Why create orphans, if the parents are not interested in raising the child? Also, sometimes if the fetus is not aborted, it can result in health complications for the mother. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

I am not from US but I will share my opinion. I am with Trump to stop legalize abortion. In the first place why is that you would make a baby then abort it if you can stop it by using contraceptives? The baby in the womb is not a trash that you simply abort it if you don't want it.
It is a human like you that has a will to live and experience the world.

Just my opinion.

I agree with you! I am also not living in US, but in this case I'm totally agreed with Trump, because having a baby is a blessing from above. Maybe it comes unexpected but its not a mistake or sin. So if really legalize then everyone is free to f*ck everyone then if he gets pregnant its fine just throw it like a garbage. Its really a sin for Him.
As for such means sex you offer you are probably from a Muslim country. There is practiced but for a different reason. I am against Trump and against his delusions. Trump is an evil that plunges America into the dark ages.

Abortion is very complex and difficult matter.
Many woman wants to have baby but can't because of some physical or medical reason.
Some woman tried and had miscarriage.
From other side, some woman was to young, naive and without any support when they became pregnant, so they chose abortion.
Can we simple judge them without understanding their situation?
I think that government and social services should help both type of woman.
Second group of woman should receive legal, medical and financial assistance in order to decide to have baby, and after birth of a child state should take care about these children and help first group of woman to adopt them (if their mothers can't take care about them).
Such approach is much better than punishments.
 


I think a woman is entitled to decide to give birth to her or not. The prohibition of abortion will lead to the fact that women will travel for abortions in neighboring countries. Must be a state program for adoption before the birth It will help solve the material problems of women, families who cannot have children will they have and will decrease the number of abortions.
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February 04, 2017, 01:22:49 PM

If you ask me, that's the only think that I'm against with Trump changes, and that's for a few reasons. First would be that that family or a single mother, doesn't have the means to support that child and give it a proper life, so abortion is kind of a better option. Second, unwanted child due to carelessness of the mother due to intoxication, rape, etc.. so if that child is unwanted, it wqould be better to be aborted right then and there. Third a simple change of mind and the free will of mother, BUT those abortion should be payed from the pockets of that couple/mother/whoever is responsible for that child, so no social help unless that coup;le can't provide money for the abortion.

Also, on the side note because just like abortion, gay marriage are being attack from religion aswell and imho, they should be legal like any other marriage and should be able to adopt children, because I would rather have children without parents to be adopted into family that can provide love, money and everything else needed for that child to grow up normally rather than in various foster families or anywhere else.

   
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February 04, 2017, 01:43:18 PM

If you ask me, that's the only think that I'm against with Trump changes, and that's for a few reasons. First would be that that family or a single mother, doesn't have the means to support that child and give it a proper life, so abortion is kind of a better option. Second, unwanted child due to carelessness of the mother due to intoxication, rape, etc.. so if that child is unwanted, it wqould be better to be aborted right then and there. Third a simple change of mind and the free will of mother, BUT those abortion should be payed from the pockets of that couple/mother/whoever is responsible for that child, so no social help unless that coup;le can't provide money for the abortion.

Also, on the side note because just like abortion, gay marriage are being attack from religion aswell and imho, they should be legal like any other marriage and should be able to adopt children, because I would rather have children without parents to be adopted into family that can provide love, money and everything else needed for that child to grow up normally rather than in various foster families or anywhere else.
I am opposed to people of same-sex marriages were allowed to adopt children. I believe that homosexuality is a deviation from the norm and these parents can raise a child correctly.
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February 05, 2017, 03:36:07 PM

Im not living in US but in my opinion Trump did a great job for this, abortion should not be legalize. Killing an angel is a sin to God, because every baby its a blessing. Whether we are living in different we should value a life.

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February 05, 2017, 04:04:16 PM

I agree with most of Trump's policies, but I don't agree with this one. Abortion must be legal (with the exception of partial birth abortion). Why create orphans, if the parents are not interested in raising the child? Also, sometimes if the fetus is not aborted, it can result in health complications for the mother. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

I am not from US but I will share my opinion. I am with Trump to stop legalize abortion. In the first place why is that you would make a baby then abort it if you can stop it by using contraceptives? The baby in the womb is not a trash that you simply abort it if you don't want it.
It is a human like you that has a will to live and experience the world.

Just my opinion.

I agree with you! I am also not living in US, but in this case I'm totally agreed with Trump, because having a baby is a blessing from above. Maybe it comes unexpected but its not a mistake or sin. So if really legalize then everyone is free to f*ck everyone then if he gets pregnant its fine just throw it like a garbage. Its really a sin for Him.
As for such means sex you offer you are probably from a Muslim country. There is practiced but for a different reason. I am against Trump and against his delusions. Trump is an evil that plunges America into the dark ages.

Abortion is very complex and difficult matter.
Many woman wants to have baby but can't because of some physical or medical reason.
Some woman tried and had miscarriage.
From other side, some woman was to young, naive and without any support when they became pregnant, so they chose abortion.
Can we simple judge them without understanding their situation?
I think that government and social services should help both type of woman.
Second group of woman should receive legal, medical and financial assistance in order to decide to have baby, and after birth of a child state should take care about these children and help first group of woman to adopt them (if their mothers can't take care about them).
Such approach is much better than punishments.
 


I think a woman is entitled to decide to give birth to her or not. The prohibition of abortion will lead to the fact that women will travel for abortions in neighboring countries. Must be a state program for adoption before the birth It will help solve the material problems of women, families who cannot have children will they have and will decrease the number of abortions.

Yes, it's only way to solve such very sensitive and difficult issue.
Legal punishments and restrictions will not solve this huge problem in our society.
We (I mean government) should do our best to take care about pregnant woman, give them security, protection, material help etc.
If they can't take care about children, state should offer adoption for such children.
In such way, we will save this kids and make very happy couples which can't have children.


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February 05, 2017, 05:57:38 PM

I think a woman is entitled to decide to give birth to her or not. The prohibition of abortion will lead to the fact that women will travel for abortions in neighboring countries. Must be a state program for adoption before the birth It will help solve the material problems of women, families who cannot have children will they have and will decrease the number of abortions.
Babies don't come from thin air. If a woman knows she doesn't want to give birth, she shouldn't get pregnant in the first place.
I understand aborting, when you find out the child will be born with a defect, but it should be avoided in general.

We (I mean government) should do our best to take care about pregnant woman, give them security, protection, material help etc.
If they can't take care about children, state should offer adoption for such children.
In such way, we will save this kids and make very happy couples which can't have children.
I agree.


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February 06, 2017, 04:18:43 AM

Babies don't come from thin air. If a woman knows she doesn't want to give birth, she shouldn't get pregnant in the first place.
I understand aborting, when you find out the child will be born with a defect, but it should be avoided in general.

So are you saying that even if there is a 1% chance that the baby may be born with a defect, the woman should not try to conceive? That is not how it works. If the fetus is having a major defect, then the woman must have the right to abort it.

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Babies don't come from thin air. If a woman knows she doesn't want to give birth, she shouldn't get pregnant in the first place.
I understand aborting, when you find out the child will be born with a defect, but it should be avoided in general.

So are you saying that even if there is a 1% chance that the baby may be born with a defect, the woman should not try to conceive? That is not how it works. If the fetus is having a major defect, then the woman must have the right to abort it.
I think a woman should be able to have an abortion at their discretion regardless of the circumstances which it was pushed. Nobody has the right to decide for a woman what she should do. She's not a slave!
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February 06, 2017, 06:02:27 PM

Babies don't come from thin air. If a woman knows she doesn't want to give birth, she shouldn't get pregnant in the first place.
I understand aborting, when you find out the child will be born with a defect, but it should be avoided in general.

So are you saying that even if there is a 1% chance that the baby may be born with a defect, the woman should not try to conceive? That is not how it works. If the fetus is having a major defect, then the woman must have the right to abort it.

No, the woman should conceive and then monitor the pregnancy. If the baby is found to have a major defect she should be allowed to abort.
I'm saying that if she knows she doesn't want a child, because she's poor or would be a bad mother for some reason, she should use contraception instead of abortion.

I think a woman should be able to have an abortion at their discretion regardless of the circumstances which it was pushed. Nobody has the right to decide for a woman what she should do. She's not a slave!
Let's stop using contraceptives and have sex every day with random partners, and if a baby gets conceived we'll abort. Is that your idea of a perfect society with no moral boundaries?


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February 07, 2017, 07:29:36 AM

Let's stop using contraceptives and have sex every day with random partners, and if a baby gets conceived we'll abort. Is that your idea of a perfect society with no moral boundaries?

You need to remember that no contraceptive is 100% effective. For example, you are using a condom and it gets punctured during the sex. What you will do? In such cases, it is better to abort the fetus.

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February 07, 2017, 02:28:05 PM

Let's stop using contraceptives and have sex every day with random partners, and if a baby gets conceived we'll abort. Is that your idea of a perfect society with no moral boundaries?

You need to remember that no contraceptive is 100% effective. For example, you are using a condom and it gets punctured during the sex. What you will do? In such cases, it is better to abort the fetus.
I am generally opposed to every pig especially such as Trump stuck his nose in my business! I think a woman has a right to decide to terminate her pregnancy or not. This old impotent no avail and he thus takes revenge on women.
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February 07, 2017, 06:03:39 PM

What president trump did was a very good step in the right direction,thousands of baby's have died due to abortions, who knows what does baby. could become in the future
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February 07, 2017, 09:00:54 PM

So, Trump is president. Great or not I don't really care.

But one of his first action has been... To prevent the funding of association promoting the legalization of abortion...
Thousands of dickhead on this forum are saying that "feminazis" are a shame and that they're getting way over the top, that they should stop with their stupid protests and all...

But do you even realize that one of his first action has been to gather 7 men and to actually decide to stop promoting legalization of abortion?

Don't wonder why women are so anti-Trump, it's just because Trump is so anti-women!
Come tell me he's not sexist now ><

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/one-of-donald-trumps-first-moves-in-the-white-house-strips-women-of-abortion-rights/news-story/0b958833c3356ad3a00b785a6bfc21ef
This probably the only point on which I support Trump.This is not Anti-women but this is about saving a life.If you had been aborted in your mother's womb,you would not be here to read this.
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February 08, 2017, 10:14:38 PM

What president trump did was a very good step in the right direction,thousands of baby's have died due to abortions, who knows what does baby. could become in the future

I agree on this. Tho i still doubt his motives with regards to this certain proportion. However  if you are a Catholic life is really valuable more than anyrhing else


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February 09, 2017, 05:10:23 PM

However  if you are a Catholic life is really valuable more than anyrhing else

Is that the reason why Catholic nations such as Poland and Italy are having some of the lowest birth rates in the planet? I think that the fertility rate in Italy is somewhere around 1.2, when compared to 1.8 in Belarus.

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