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January 25, 2017, 03:09:29 AM
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Hi guys, I read good things about this place so I thought I would join, question.... say I buy bitcoins from Coinbase and send it too my blockchain wallet... can coinbase find out who I sent my bitcoin to once it's in my blockchain wallet. do they have access to that or only access to where I sent it from if its coming from coinbase? thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
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January 25, 2017, 03:23:25 AM
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thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
If you want to stay private (or even if you don't, for that matter), do not use coinbase or blockchain for your transactions or storage.
They are virtual banks, they give you an account, but don't give you private keys, they control the coins.
They can impose spend limits, freeze your account, or even confiscate your balance.
They also ask for your ID, so you can't be anonymous, and all your transactions are tied to your name.
Use mobile or desktop wallet for transactions (e.g. Electrum, Mycelium), and paper wallets for storage.
If you don't want Big Brother to trace you, use a mix before sending to your wallet.
If you don't have sole and complete control over the private keys, you don't have bitcoin.

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January 25, 2017, 03:28:05 AM
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Hi guys, I read good things about this place so I thought I would join, question.... say I buy bitcoins from Coinbase and send it too my blockchain wallet... can coinbase find out who I sent my bitcoin to once it's in my blockchain wallet. do they have access to that or only access to where I sent it from if its coming from coinbase? thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask

Welcome to the bitcoin world Cheesy As for your question, coinbase has no connection with blockchain. They are both online wallet provider. Therefore, they cannot trace the bitcoin addresses that you had a transactions with once it came from blockchain already. They will only know the blockchain address where you sent your bitcoin from coinbase.

So to confirm, say right now I deposit on coinbase or Gemini, and I send this to my blockchain wallet.. okay so now I got Bitcoins in my blockchain wallet..if i send that to a different address can gemini or coinbase find out the address that i sent it to? or only they can find out the one from coinbase to blockchain.. thanks
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January 25, 2017, 03:34:37 AM
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thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
If you want to stay private (or even if you don't, for that matter), do not use coinbase or blockchain for your transactions or storage.
They are virtual banks, they give you an account, but don't give you private keys, they control the coins.
They can impose spend limits, freeze your account, or even confiscate your balance.
They also ask for your ID, so you can't be anonymous, and all your transactions are tied to your name.
Use mobile or desktop wallet for transactions (e.g. Electrum, Mycelium), and paper wallets for storage.
If you don't want Big Brother to trace you, use a mix before sending to your wallet.
If you don't have sole and complete control over the private keys, you don't have bitcoin.

If I send from Electrum or Mycelium   can it be traced?  and out of the two which is more preferable
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January 25, 2017, 03:39:56 AM
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thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
If you want to stay private (or even if you don't, for that matter), do not use coinbase or blockchain for your transactions or storage.
They are virtual banks, they give you an account, but don't give you private keys, they control the coins.
They can impose spend limits, freeze your account, or even confiscate your balance.
They also ask for your ID, so you can't be anonymous, and all your transactions are tied to your name.
Use mobile or desktop wallet for transactions (e.g. Electrum, Mycelium), and paper wallets for storage.
If you don't want Big Brother to trace you, use a mix before sending to your wallet.
If you don't have sole and complete control over the private keys, you don't have bitcoin.

i think tracking who sender bitcoin, and who the receive bitcoin is not easy as you think, im using xapo bitcoin wallet , of course i can't control my bitcoin, but it's not easy to someone track my Tx. the address of bitcoin can't give you more information like ip address, who am i etc.

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for truly untracable transaction, im recomended to using Zcash shielded transaction no people can trace where you get your zcash and where you send your zcash
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January 25, 2017, 03:45:40 AM
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Hi guys, I read good things about this place so I thought I would join, question.... say I buy bitcoins from Coinbase and send it too my blockchain wallet... can coinbase find out who I sent my bitcoin to once it's in my blockchain wallet. do they have access to that or only access to where I sent it from if its coming from coinbase? thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask

Welcome to the bitcoin world Cheesy As for your question, coinbase has no connection with blockchain. They are both online wallet provider. Therefore, they cannot trace the bitcoin addresses that you had a transactions with once it came from blockchain already. They will only know the blockchain address where you sent your bitcoin from coinbase.

So to confirm, say right now I deposit on coinbase or Gemini, and I send this to my blockchain wallet.. okay so now I got Bitcoins in my blockchain wallet..if i send that to a different address can gemini or coinbase find out the address that i sent it to? or only they can find out the one from coinbase to blockchain.. thanks

No worries. You are right. Coinbase will have no access to check where you will send your bitcoin once it is already in blockchain walle. They can only find out the one you sent from your coinbase wallet to blockchain wallet. Hope that this will help you. If you still have more questions, don't hesitate to ask. People on this forum are very accommodating Wink


With all due respect how sure are you of this, is there an article or anything I can read, I just live a very private life.
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January 25, 2017, 03:46:16 AM
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There is no problem with somebody knowing whom you sent your bitcoins if you are not doing any illicit activities then you should not be afraid of something. Anyway the person whom you sent your bitcoins will not be known except if somebody knows your bitcoin address and the owner of the address or the receiver. BUt if no one knows that information then nobody can know whom you sent your bitcoins since what will appear on blockchain is the transaction and the bitcoin address only.

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January 25, 2017, 03:55:21 AM
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There is no problem with somebody knowing whom you sent your bitcoins if you are not doing any illicit activities then you should not be afraid of something. Anyway the person whom you sent your bitcoins will not be known except if somebody knows your bitcoin address and the owner of the address or the receiver. BUt if no one knows that information then nobody can know whom you sent your bitcoins since what will appear on blockchain is the transaction and the bitcoin address only.


yobit is a good site? can i deposit in canadian currency using visa if so whats the fee
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January 25, 2017, 03:58:46 AM
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Hi guys, I read good things about this place so I thought I would join, question.... say I buy bitcoins from Coinbase and send it too my blockchain wallet... can coinbase find out who I sent my bitcoin to once it's in my blockchain wallet. do they have access to that or only access to where I sent it from if its coming from coinbase? thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
Do you mean that if you buy a bitcoin from coinbase then send it blockchain. If you send the bitcoin to the other bitcoin address, the sender are no longer access the bitcoin that he sent. Only the receiver can access the bitcoin, control it and manage once he received it.

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January 25, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
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If you don't have sole and complete control over the private keys, you don't have bitcoin.
I thought that blockchain.info let you copy your private keys and export it to another wallet. At least that was the case when they were using non-HD framework.
This is not possible anymore with their new HD wallet?

yobit is a good site? can i deposit in canadian currency using visa if so whats the fee
If you want to trade altcoins better use Poloniex.
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January 25, 2017, 04:16:27 AM
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Hi guys, I read good things about this place so I thought I would join, question.... say I buy bitcoins from Coinbase and send it too my blockchain wallet... can coinbase find out who I sent my bitcoin to once it's in my blockchain wallet. do they have access to that or only access to where I sent it from if its coming from coinbase? thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
Do you mean that if you buy a bitcoin from coinbase then send it blockchain. If you send the bitcoin to the other bitcoin address, the sender are no longer access the bitcoin that he sent. Only the receiver can access the bitcoin, control it and manage once he received it.

ya pretty much like im gonna buy off coinbase, send it to my blockchain wallet, then from blockchain send it elsewhere, I know that coinbase can find out where u sent your original bitcoins but can they find out from blockchain and where u send it to what if they looked up the old address
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January 25, 2017, 04:23:11 AM
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thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
If you want to stay private (or even if you don't, for that matter), do not use coinbase or blockchain for your transactions or storage.
They are virtual banks, they give you an account, but don't give you private keys, they control the coins.
They can impose spend limits, freeze your account, or even confiscate your balance.
They also ask for your ID, so you can't be anonymous, and all your transactions are tied to your name.
Use mobile or desktop wallet for transactions (e.g. Electrum, Mycelium), and paper wallets for storage.
If you don't want Big Brother to trace you, use a mix before sending to your wallet.
If you don't have sole and complete control over the private keys, you don't have bitcoin.

I want to make a comment about your post. Coinbase has the reputation of freezing accounts, blockchain.io is more like an HD wallet on the web. You can load your blockchain wallet using Electrum or MultibitHD by inputting your secret seed words as far as I know. The site itself does not control your coins. Please do not lump Coinbase and blockchain.io as the same type of service.

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January 25, 2017, 04:28:24 AM
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thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
If you want to stay private (or even if you don't, for that matter), do not use coinbase or blockchain for your transactions or storage.
They are virtual banks, they give you an account, but don't give you private keys, they control the coins.
They can impose spend limits, freeze your account, or even confiscate your balance.
They also ask for your ID, so you can't be anonymous, and all your transactions are tied to your name.
Use mobile or desktop wallet for transactions (e.g. Electrum, Mycelium), and paper wallets for storage.
If you don't want Big Brother to trace you, use a mix before sending to your wallet.
If you don't have sole and complete control over the private keys, you don't have bitcoin.

I want to make a comment about your post. Coinbase has the reputation of freezing accounts, blockchain.io is more like an HD wallet on the web. You can load your wallet using Electrum or MultibitHD by inputting your secret seed words as far as I know. Please do not lump Coinbase and blockchain.io as the same type of service.

I'll be honest my friend used his coinbase for gambling and they closed his account
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January 25, 2017, 04:30:52 AM
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if i send that to a different address can gemini or coinbase find out the address that i sent it to?

Two very important pieces of information...

1.  On this forum, if you get a response from someone that has an advertisement in the signature space of their post then there is an extremely good chance that they have no idea what they are talking about and are just making up a nonsense response to increase their post count.  Most of them get paid per post, so they are more interested in creating posts than actually learning and helping.  You've received 8 such responses in this thread so far and none of them have accurately answered your question.

2.  In response to the question of yours that I've quoted above...  ABSOLUTELY.  Coinbase or Gemini would be able to determine what address you sent those bitcoins to with 100% certainty.

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Note that there are steps you can take to make it much more difficult for them to determine what final address you intend the bitcoins to go to, but simply sending to a wallet and then sending from there will not hide where you sent them. It doesn't matter what wallet you use (blockchain.info, Electrum, Multibit, Bitcoin Core, Armory, Mycellium, etc).  The result is the same.  Send to one address, then send from there to another addresss, and it will always be possible for the person that sent to you to know what address you sent to.

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Note that there are steps you can take to make it much more difficult for them to determine what final address you intend the bitcoins to go to, but simply sending to a wallet and then sending from there will not hide where you sent them. It doesn't matter what wallet you use (blockchain.info, Electrum, Multibit, Bitcoin Core, Armory, Mycellium, etc).  The result is the same.  Send to one address, then send from there to another addresss, and it will always be possible for the person that sent to you to know what address you sent to.

I'll be honest I'm using bitcoins to play poker online pretty much, I know that coinbase doesn't allow you to send bitcoins to poker sites, so if i buy bitcoins off coinbase and send it to my blockchain wallet, and from blockchain to the poker site can coinbase still find out or they only know the one transaction from coinbase to blockchain
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I'll be honest I'm using bitcoins to play poker online pretty much, I know that coinbase doesn't allow you to send bitcoins to poker sites, so if i buy bitcoins off coinbase and send it to my blockchain wallet, and from blockchain to the poker site can coinbase still find out or they only know the one transaction from coinbase to blockchain

They can determine what address you send to when you fund the poker site if you use the bitcoins that you sent from coinbase to blockchain.info.

Whether or not they can tell if it was a gambling site depends on which site you sent to and how much information about their bitcoin addresses that site makes public or available to coinbase.

Only coinbase employees know if coinbase will try to trace your transaction from blockchain.info, but if they do attempt it, then they will definitely be able to tell what address you sent to. It's really pretty easy to do.

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I'll be honest I'm using bitcoins to play poker online pretty much, I know that coinbase doesn't allow you to send bitcoins to poker sites, so if i buy bitcoins off coinbase and send it to my blockchain wallet, and from blockchain to the poker site can coinbase still find out or they only know the one transaction from coinbase to blockchain

They can determine what address you send to when you fund the poker site if you use the bitcoins that you sent from coinbase to blockchain.info.

Whether or not they can tell if it was a gambling site depends on which site you sent to and how much information about their bitcoin addresses that site makes public or available to coinbase.

Only coinbase employees know if coinbase will try to trace your transaction from blockchain.info, but if they do attempt it, then they will definitely be able to tell what address you sent to. It's really pretty easy to do.

so what advice would u give me then?
 I been using coinbase to deposit i send it to blockchain from blockchain to acr, for about 8 months and nothing. but when i first opened account with coinbase i sent it to the poker site and they warned me
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January 25, 2017, 05:28:56 AM
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thanks I like to keep my stuff private thats why I ask
If you want to stay private (or even if you don't, for that matter), do not use coinbase or blockchain for your transactions or storage.
They are virtual banks, they give you an account, but don't give you private keys, they control the coins.
They can impose spend limits, freeze your account, or even confiscate your balance.
They also ask for your ID, so you can't be anonymous, and all your transactions are tied to your name.
Use mobile or desktop wallet for transactions (e.g. Electrum, Mycelium), and paper wallets for storage.
If you don't want Big Brother to trace you, use a mix before sending to your wallet.
If you don't have sole and complete control over the private keys, you don't have bitcoin.

Blockchain.info doesn't ask for ID as far I know(they never asked for me) and I think they let you make a backup of their private keys, as most online wallets do. Of course they have all the data about you, your IP, when you logged, maybe data about your browser and other stuff, so they are far from being anonymous

Also use a desktop wallet won't guarantee anonymity, they still will have the IP data and all transaction story.


Also of course Coinbase can see to what address you sent your balance and can use blockchain analysis to try and determine who is the owner of the address.




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★ ChipMixer | Bitcoin mixing service ★


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January 25, 2017, 05:31:18 AM
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This is why we use Mixer services like the one in my signature. You send your coins through these mixer services and it would become very difficult for anyone to follow the coins. < not impossible, but not accessible to the average Joe > They would have to approach the courts to issue a subpoena to get that information.

We do not have to be involved with illegal actions to use these mixer services, but it just adds a extra level of financial privacy that Bitcoin lack as a default feature. < Bitcoin is Pseudo anonymous >

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