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January 26, 2017, 09:34:17 PM
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WTF?  This is turning out to be pretty weird.  Why is the world starting to accept this as fact all of the sudden? 
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/

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Major news outlets are once again said to be conducting an investigation into the story, with releases coming out as early as next month.

All right, bring it on. Until then, nice attempt from Coindesk to have a few more clicks on their website.
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January 26, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
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Coindesk strikes again with article without sources. Haven't heard anything about Wright lately.

                                                                       
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January 26, 2017, 10:09:07 PM
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It is plausible that he is Satoshi but actually wanted to throw everyone of the scent by making it look like he was trying to bluff it.....Sad  he did say that it wasnt his decision to come forward, no?
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January 26, 2017, 10:25:46 PM
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knowing barry silbert of coindesk also has ownership stake in blockstream im guessing it will be a story of how adam back(blockstream ceo) is "one of the 4" satoshi's
by talking about his 1997 hashcash.

it could also be looking at craig wrights first appearance in the bitcoin scene via a skype call at a different conference a couple years ago where nick szabo introduced craig wright.

thus saying its a 4 way team of
nick szabo,
craig wright,
adam back
and a mysterious 4th party.

sidenote.
adam back and szabo's concepts from years prior to bitcoin did inspire the single entity of satoshi. but adam back was not involved in bitcoins development, neither adam or nick the user behind the name satoshi,

nick did do something for bitcoin but again did not use the satoshi name.

in short its one mysterious single party who is satoshi..  and the other 3 are non-satoshi's, but just trying to get some notoriety for different reasons
.. well thats my 2 cents

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January 26, 2017, 10:31:11 PM
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knowing barry silbert of coindesk also has ownership stake in blockstream im guessing it will be a story of how adam back(blockstream ceo) is "one of the 4" satoshi's
by talking about his 1997 hashcash.

it could also be looking at craig wrights first appearance in the bitcoin scene via a skype call at a different conference a couple years ago where nick szabo introduced craig wright.

thus saying its a 4 way team of
nick szabo,
craig wright,
adam back
and a mysterious 4th party.

in short its one mysterious single party and the other 3 are non-satoshi's just trying to get some notoriety for different reasons

.. well thats my 2 cents
I didn't think Craig Wrght was Satoshi at first.  He sure has a shit personality.  He is a real fucking proper wanker if you ask me.  But, now that the truth is coming out, I guess we have to accept it.

One thing is for sure, HE thinks he is satoshi.  He filed a SHITLOAD of Bitcoin patents and that IP portfolio could only come from someone who thinks they are the true inventor.  I was expecting a much nicer guy to be Satoshi I must admit.

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January 26, 2017, 10:34:46 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2017, 10:59:21 PM by instacalm
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Why is the world starting to accept this as fact all of the sudden?

Perhaps you've heard of it already -- there happen to be some strange people in this world who are fond of the idea of "alternative facts" (which in fact are, of course, merely falsehoods/lies). Who cares much about all those Satoshi Nakamoto rumours these days anyway... whether he is Satoshi or not (most likely not), Bitcoin is Bitcoin, a network that operates on a cryptographic protocol.

Arbitrary articles designed for clickbait such as the one you linked seem quite bland to me (just like this topic's title "As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi!"). The article's beginning "If the gossip at a recent invite-only bitcoin conference is any indication (...)" is enough to understand what it is all about. So boring!
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January 26, 2017, 10:38:31 PM
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I didn't think Craig Wrght was Satoshi at first.  He sure has a shit personality.  He is a real fucking proper wanker if you ask me.  

he is not satoshi.
the article says "relates to craig wright"

which made me look back at the research rabbit hole of who first introduced craig wright at a conference a few years back.. that RELATED person being nick szabo..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE

to re-open the can of worms of Szabo maybe being satoshi.
eg "nick got craig to play along as craig being satoshi, to take some finger pointing away from nick himself"
where the first finger pointing years ago was due to szabo's pre bitcoin 'bitcash' concept that inspired satoshi, years after bitcash was conceived.

but knowing coindesk is writing the article.. im sure the other old inspirations will mention adam back due to coindesks attachment to blockstream.

then a further 2 cents. adam back will proclaim he is satoshi, just so everyone should rush and buy into his LN commrecial hubs concepts...
blockstreams scripts are easy to predict.



and this is why craig wright fails the "who is satoshi"
he is into law and forensics and see's bitcoin being used
https://youtu.be/4GuqlQvFYJo?t=1m40s

satoshi hated the idea of identifying people/corporate marketing of data

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January 27, 2017, 12:03:29 AM
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WTF?  This is turning out to be pretty weird.  Why is the world starting to accept this as fact all of the sudden?  
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/

Don't bother reading it. The article just contains a bunch of speculation and innuendo. It contains no facts.

Here is the article with all the fluff taken out:
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If the gossip ...

... rumors were swirling ...

... there is said to be a potential twist to the story relating to an unknown entity ...

[unnamed] Major news outlets are ... said to be ...

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January 27, 2017, 12:23:07 AM
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WTF?  This is turning out to be pretty weird.  Why is the world starting to accept this as fact all of the sudden? 
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/

Craig Wright has failed to place evidence that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. He even stated this" "I believed that I could do this. I believed that I could put the years of anonymity and hiding behind me. But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot."  He also offered public apology since he doesnt have enough evidence to back up his claims. I don believe Craig Wright to be Satoshi Nakamoto.
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January 27, 2017, 12:42:34 AM
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WTF?  This is turning out to be pretty weird.  Why is the world starting to accept this as fact all of the sudden?  
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/

Craig Wright has failed to place evidence that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. He even stated this" "I believed that I could do this. I believed that I could put the years of anonymity and hiding behind me. But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot."  He also offered public apology since he doesnt have enough evidence to back up his claims. I don believe Craig Wright to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

he isnt satoshi, he just didnt think the community would recognise the signature
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as being a publicly available string of text for the last 7 years

he thought people wouldnt pick up on it so quick. so had to play backtrack
i feel sorry for all the investors he has conned

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January 27, 2017, 12:46:26 AM
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he is not satoshi.
the article says "relates to craig wright"

which made me look back at the research rabbit hole of who first introduced craig wright at a conference a few years back.. that RELATED person being nick szabo..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE

to re-open the can of worms of Szabo maybe being satoshi.
eg "nick got craig to play along as craig being satoshi, to take some finger pointing away from nick himself"
where the first finger pointing years ago was due to szabo's pre bitcoin 'bitcash' concept that inspired satoshi, years after bitcash was conceived.

but knowing coindesk is writing the article.. im sure the other old inspirations will mention adam back due to coindesks attachment to blockstream.

then a further 2 cents. adam back will proclaim he is satoshi, just so everyone should rush and buy into his LN commrecial hubs concepts...
blockstreams scripts are easy to predict.



and this is why craig wright fails the "who is satoshi"
he is into law and forensics and see's bitcoin being used
https://youtu.be/4GuqlQvFYJo?t=1m40s

satoshi hated the idea of identifying people/corporate marketing of data


Where in that video do you Szabo introducing Wright or having any relation to Wright?

And in your second video if you pay attention Wright talks about how one will be able to use things like apps to enhance privacy.  That's as good as you're gonna get in the world of blockchains - sorry if you actually drank the Roger Ver happy juice.  

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January 27, 2017, 12:49:20 AM
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he isnt satoshi, he just didnt think the community would recognise the signature
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as being a publicly available string of text for the last 7 years

he thought people wouldnt pick up on it so quick. so had to play backtrack
i feel sorry for all the investors he has conned

That is a weak argument given the intellectual caliber of the people he "conned".

The probability is quite high that he is Satoshi but the surprise unknown coder may shock people even more.  I hope so.  Smiley

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That is a weak argument given the intellectual caliber of the people he "conned".

you need to know his whole back story.

1. in something like 2013 he told a friend to set up a trust. and the collateral was a bunch of PUBLIC KEYS
he did not show proof of signatures of the PUBLIC keys. he relied on his friends naivity to only check the balances of the PUBLIC KEYS to get a total value to use as collateral.

2. emphasis the friend did not understand bitcoin so thought showing public key was like showing a bank statement as proof enough of holding.

3. then using the TRUST which is then falsely insured for multiple millions of dollars of value. (although it held 0 assets and just a list of random early adopter public keys). that TRUST fund was then used as collateral to then get other investments by FALSELY suggesting it was secured by million of assets. due to an insurance policy insuring the trust.

4. the now invested fund was then used to make other investments..

5. australian authorities questioned the trust so he legged it to england.. then craig contacted media and started his own 'i am satoshi' whispers because the australian government were doubting his trusts assets.

6.  later people have seen that the proof is not proof. but publicly available data.. this has made the first trust funds assets factually reduced to zero. meaning the initial investors will want to drop out. which is snowballing right now like ripples in the water. each level of investment has now realised their funds are not secure.

7. now craig wright is trying to get patents and do book deals, etc to try raising capital and creating assets to bulk up the empty trust to try and salvage some value of that empty trust. purely to avoid civil and possible criminal charges if he ever got deported to australia to have to answer for his actions. he thinks if he can replace the PUBLIC key fake asset with patents and book royalty contracts to then give the trust real value, he can avoid civil/criminal actions by showing the trust holds real value.

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In this thread, large block maniacs show that their judgement is equally poor in other domains.
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In this thread, large block maniacs show that their judgement is equally poor in other domains.


yep rational people want dynamic blocks of lean tx's starting at 2mb block buffer limit..

large block maniacs want 4mb weight.

you can spot a maniac when they cant even tell you that 4 is bigger than 2..so will refuse to admit they are the large block maniacs,

if you cant admit that 4 is bigger then 2 and always try to make it sound like 2 is bigger than 4.. then no one should take any notice of other word twisting crap thats said

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We will always see once or two per year, a new theory about who is Satoshi.. With all kind of rumors, conspiracies, legend, ect with or without argument. Right now i searched and i am not suprised to see some results in search engine for "Alex Jones bitcoin" LOL I am going to read a bunch of stuff.

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January 27, 2017, 02:49:44 AM
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yep rational people want dynamic blocks of lean tx's starting at 2mb block buffer limit..

large block maniacs want 4mb weight.

you can spot a maniac when they cant even tell you that 4 is bigger than 2..so will refuse to admit they are the large block maniacs,

if you cant admit that 4 is bigger then 2 and always try to make it sound like 2 is bigger than 4.. then no one should take any notice of other word twisting crap thats said

they also want to bulk up lean tx's into being bloated tx's with 1kb confidential Pedersen commitments in the future.
they even deny their pay cheque comes from corporate and banking sources
I must say you're even better story teller than Craig Wrightoshi himself.

Btw why did you remove the last paragraph from your comment? Wink

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yep rational people want dynamic blocks of lean tx's starting at 2mb block buffer limit..

large block maniacs want 4mb weight.

you can spot a maniac when they cant even tell you that 4 is bigger than 2..so will refuse to admit they are the large block maniacs,

if you cant admit that 4 is bigger then 2 and always try to make it sound like 2 is bigger than 4.. then no one should take any notice of other word twisting crap thats said

they also want to bulk up lean tx's into being bloated tx's with 1kb confidential Pedersen commitments in the future.
they even deny their pay cheque comes from corporate and banking sources
I must say you're even better story teller than Craig Wrightoshi himself.

Btw why did you remove the last paragraph from your comment? Wink
because confidential Pedersen commitments is their future plans. and because its not yet official, i presume they will deny it even is in the plan and then meander the topic into more maniacal over dramatics by stating they have not added it yet so i must be wrong... rather than admit i see a few steps ahead of what they are ready to admit.
so i left off their future plan to reduce their maniac mindsets of twisting words.

as for how they are paid. well they will denie they are paid to work on bitcoin and deny their blockstream investors have anything to do with bitcoin... more nonsense meandering away from the topic at hand.

so i tried to stick to the point gmaxwell made.. and just highlighted where he failed.... 2mb block vs 4mb weight.. which is bigger.. even a 6yo knows 4 is bigger

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January 27, 2017, 03:02:50 AM
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Why do we even discuss this topic once again? Because Coindesk decided to strike again with this drama series - "We know who Satoshi is, maybe"?
Until we have real, valid and irrefutable proof that Craig can present to everyone, publicly, confirming his identity as Satoshi, until then I refuse to believe in this rumor.
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