As it turns out, Craig Wright actually is Satoshi!

[Herbert2020]

I am satoshi, and I have proof, i promise to move my coins soon in the future.

if you believed "Craig Wright" you must believe me too. because me and him are providing the same amount of proof to you that are currently reading this comment.

[Vlad2Vlad]

I would say he was close enough to Satoshi to be able to say certain stories. But he doesn't have the private key of the wallets.
Last time I've read that he was in quite a debt, so becoming Satoshi will bring him media coverage, attention, money...

But that doesn't explain how he fooled Matonis and Gavin.  Do you really think it would be so simple to do given their reputations and the gravity of the matter?  Again, it's highly improbable.

And there were other very reputable individuals who came out and said they met Wright as Satoshi years earlier.

Simply too much to dismiss. 

[Barbut]

He just wish some publicity, I don`t see any other reason why he forcing this topic again. 'as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot.' Poor him, he cannot force him self to move the coins, like he need to dig it and carry them for real.
He is first one, in future I expect more people like him to try to take the name Satoshi. This will mysticism are contribute to bitcoin I think. One of the comments that made me laugh on this news site is this one
'Matt J Delorey • 12 hours ago
The real Satoshi Nakamoto will never be known to the public, it's all done by design. You will hear many more stories like this, but the truth is Satoshi Nakamoto died.... I know because I worked with him. So all the stories you hear from now on are just hype.`

[audaciousbeing]

Going through the articles I can but not say that its total gibberish and nothing else without any basis. Just a situation of picking dots from a situation and turning that into an article in other to generate quite a number of clicks on their site. I really want to know what changes for Satoshi to now come out at this time, its not even sure if he will be present in the conference either way, we will be waiting for another article that will give us the outcome.

[kiklo]

I would say he was close enough to Satoshi to be able to say certain stories. But he doesn't have the private key of the wallets.
Last time I've read that he was in quite a debt, so becoming Satoshi will bring him media coverage, attention, money...

But that doesn't explain how he fooled Matonis and Gavin.  Do you really think it would be so simple to do given their reputations and the gravity of the matter?  Again, it's highly improbable.

And there were other very reputable individuals who came out and said they met Wright as Satoshi years earlier.

Simply too much to dismiss. 

Hmm,

Maybe Matonis and Gavin are not as smart as you think they are or maybe they just really wanted to believe it was him, so he could help end the rift that is splitting BTC between the Chinese miners and the BTC Core LN scammers.

If Wright can't move 1 BTC from Satoshi BTC Address, then he is not Satoshi.
The Fact the guy is in so much debt and Satoshi BTC would have him sitting pretty , tells you he is not Satoshi.
That is too much to dismiss.   

 

[Vlad2Vlad]

You guys are all going around in circles refusing to think for yourselves.  

Look at the big picture of what's happening with Bitcoin and Wright.  Assume Wright will get his 400 patents.  With that in mind the intelligent move is to assume he is Satoshi which will only add to his influence over Bitcoin and the blockchain.

Once you use that premise then you can try to figure out which side of the big block civil war Wright is gonna fall on.

Cause if he is Satoshi and he holds 1+ million BTC and he decides to move to an alt then all you guys will wake up to a 90%+ drop in Bitcoin's price and then you're gonna act all surprised and broken hearted.

Aren't you all tired of being behind the curve?  Then stop following each other and try to think about what's coming next instead of gossiping about the past and letting your personal feelings get in the way.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Hmm,

Maybe Matonis and Gavin are not as smart as you think they are or maybe they just really wanted to believe it was him, so he could help end the rift that is splitting BTC between the Chinese miners and the BTC Core LN scammers.

If Wright can't move 1 BTC from Satoshi BTC Address, then he is not Satoshi.
The Fact the guy is in so much debt and Satoshi BTC would have him sitting pretty , tells you he is not Satoshi.
That is too much to dismiss.   

 

Proving Wright is Satoshi wouldn't end by rift as both sides of the civil war are entrenched, well backed and determined.  What it would give them is leverage and a justifiable reason to successfully split Bitcoin which will only lead to a bigger war.

You have to ask if committing career suicide is worth that cause without a doubt if they knew Wright didn't have proof they would be found out.

As for how smart Gavin and Matonis are - all the real world evidence, before this ordeal, supports high intelligence and a well developed sense of discernment. 

Everyone here is assuming the improbable to be true which is senseless and financially dangerous if you hold Bitcoin.

[kiklo]

Proving Wright is Satoshi wouldn't end by rift as both sides of the civil war are entrenched, well backed and determined.  What it would give them is leverage and a justifiable reason to successfully split Bitcoin which will only lead to a bigger war.

You have to ask if committing career suicide is worth that cause without a doubt if they knew Wright didn't have proof they would be found out.

As for how smart Gavin and Matonis are - all the real world evidence, before this ordeal, supports high intelligence and a well developed sense of discernment. 

Everyone here is assuming the improbable to be true which is senseless and financially dangerous if you hold Bitcoin.

I don't hold BTC, technically it is a dead end. Writings been on the wall for over 6 months now.
The masses are a little slow to catch on, but they should figure it out in the next 12 to 18 months. 


 

[NeuroticFish]

You guys are all going around in circles refusing to think for yourselves.  

Look at the big picture of what's happening with Bitcoin and Wright.  Assume Wright will get his 400 patents.  With that in mind the intelligent move is to assume he is Satoshi which will only add to his influence over Bitcoin and the blockchain.

Once you use that premise then you can try to figure out which side of the big block civil war Wright is gonna fall on.

Cause if he is Satoshi and he holds 1+ million BTC and he decides to move to an alt then all you guys will wake up to a 90%+ drop in Bitcoin's price and then you're gonna act all surprised and broken hearted.

Aren't you all tired of being behind the curve?  Then stop following each other and try to think about what's coming next instead of gossiping about the past and letting your personal feelings get in the way.

So you say that the guy has the private keys for a ton of money and he stays in debt instead of living a luxury life?
I don't understand this logic. Are you sure you didn't miss anything?

In my logic any sane man would have touched that money already. Unless he has lost - for whatever reason - the private keys or he's dead.

[Vlad2Vlad]

I don't hold BTC, technically it is a dead end. Writings been on the wall for over 6 months now.
The masses are a little slow to catch on, but they should figure it out in the next 12 to 18 months. 

 

Oh, if Wright is Satoshi and he moves to an alt then the sleeping masses are gonna catch on in the next few weeks. 

[BlockEye]

Proving Wright is Satoshi wouldn't end by rift as both sides of the civil war are entrenched, well backed and determined.  What it would give them is leverage and a justifiable reason to successfully split Bitcoin which will only lead to a bigger war.

You have to ask if committing career suicide is worth that cause without a doubt if they knew Wright didn't have proof they would be found out.

As for how smart Gavin and Matonis are - all the real world evidence, before this ordeal, supports high intelligence and a well developed sense of discernment. 

Everyone here is assuming the improbable to be true which is senseless and financially dangerous if you hold Bitcoin.

I don't hold BTC, technically it is a dead end. Writings been on the wall for over 6 months now.
The masses are a little slow to catch on, but they should figure it out in the next 12 to 18 months. 


 

Not a chance. How did you say so that this will be the end while it is very hot to people in contratry. I think it will just pump for the next 12months as you predicted considering that bitcoin community will be grow more this year.

[Vlad2Vlad]

So you say that the guy has the private keys for a ton of money and he stays in debt instead of living a luxury life?
I don't understand this logic. Are you sure you didn't miss anything?

In my logic any sane man would have touched that money already. Unless he has lost - for whatever reason - the private keys or he's dead.

According to Wright, all those Bitcoins were put in a trust and he couldn't get to them for some time - which was part of some agreement.  It's been a while but I believe he was trying to find a way to get them back early.  My gut feeling is that he's gonna need them if he has any big plans for an alt-coin which means he probably found a way.  With enough money and connections any contract can be broken.  

It's best to be prepared by assuming a worst case scenario.

[Flanagan]

Just watched Banking on Bitcoin, a great bitcoin documentary that talks a lot about this issue and point to this man I think. Recommend you all see it, available freely you know at many torrent sites and so on...

[franky1]

franky1 is now also an enemy of fungiblity and not just decentralization? color me surprised.

seriously?
im not an enemy of fungibility..

im an enemy of bloated transactions using failed Pedersen commitment idea that permanently bloats up a transaction but ends up only giving about a couple weeks of secrecy.

here is the issue with your commitments. if people are to mix funds and move funds for your confidential transactions to work where funds A and funds B, when being spent must equal the same as funds C.. then many people need to use the same commitment for the math to work.

as soon as someone knows the commitment. it can all be decoded.

same as the concern of the other separate problem of "address re-use". i see rusty russel is very quiet about the "address reuse" issue which will cause an issue for LN.

try to think beyond the positivies of your short term use strategies to offer a feature and instead think about scenario's of length of utility before the utility itself becomes a weakness.. try to be critical of your own code, not plaster it with utopian dream advertising, while sweeping the risks under the carpet.

you love giving people hope and empty promises or features offering empty short term gestures, but you dont give the community what they really need.
and thats why i lost all respect for you.

[franky1]

Maybe Matonis and Gavin

what if i told you that coindesk ceo barry silbert, pays matonis a wage via coindesk
what if i told you barry silbert pays gavin via barry's investment/ownership stake in Bloq
what if i told you barry silbert pays gmaxwell via barry's investment/ownership stake in Blockstream

and its just a big finger pointing distraction for clickbait and drama for the last 2 years to get people to take their eye off the ball

EG when politics get serious and real lives can be affected and wars begin.. bring in some kardashian drama to settle the sheep back to sleep so they dont notice the real concerns happening in the opposite direction

[Gleb Gamow]

WTF?  This is turning out to be pretty weird.  Why is the world starting to accept this as fact all of the sudden? 
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/

This is what really happened at the Satoshi Roundtable:

Attendee 1: This is boring. Let's play the drinking game.

<45 minutes later>

Attendee 2: Dudes, this is fun. What next?

Attendee 3: Let's start a rumor.

Attendee 2: Like Bruno fucks goats? hehehe.

Attendee 3: I said a rumor, drunkface.

Attendee 1: I know. We can ... we can ... Shit, I lost my thought.

Attendee 5: Let's start a rumor that Satoshi Nakamoto is really ...

Attendee 15: Excuse me for speaking outta of turn, but I have to go and throw-up, but before I do I wanna say Craig Steven Wright. Byeeeeeeee.

<all attendees: Applause>

<the next day>

Random Attendee: What the fuck did we do last night?
Another Random Attendee: No fuckin clue. Must have been the Romulan Ale we all drink. And who hid all our pants? And is your butt sore, too?

<humor at Bruce's expense for not inviting me  >

[Decoded]

What I see is an overpaid coindesk writer trying to conjure up a story and failing. Miserably. There's no proof, no new evidence that anything whatsoever has come up questioning the common knowledge they Craig Wright is a fraud.

[Gleb Gamow]

Maybe Matonis and Gavin

what if i told you that coindesk ceo barry silbert, pays matonis a wage via coindesk
what if i told you barry silbert pays gavin via barry's investment/ownership stake in Bloq
what if i told you barry silbert pays gmaxwell via barry's investment/ownership stake in Blockstream

and its just a big finger pointing distraction for clickbait and drama for the last 2 years to get people to take their eye off the ball

EG when politics get serious and real lives can be affected and wars begin.. bring in some kardashian drama to settle the sheep back to sleep so they dont notice the real concerns happening in the opposite direction

Speaking of clickbait, read the following article three times through, then see if it makes any sense to you: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/man-accidentally-makes-13-million-buying-house-bitcoin/ My opinion is that the worse YouTube testimony of EThtrade is more convincing to me than what I read there.

[digaran]

This is all boiled dog's fault I only blame him, what the fack do we care about Satoshi? I think people have seen all these shitcoins with their devs stick around with a mouse and keyboard now they think bitcoin was developed for the same reason which is polo bitrex pump it we promise never dump it story.
I bet Craig Wright strangled the real Satoshi in his home now wants to claim his identity as well or maybe Gavin had  a hand in this and buried the founder but they were unable to open the wallet containing all the private keys but just recently had a success to breaking the encryption and will provide us with the undeniable evidence right?
I'm dedicating this to rawww yo Dog!

[manselr]

knowing barry silbert of coindesk also has ownership stake in blockstream im guessing it will be a story of how adam back(blockstream ceo) is "one of the 4" satoshi's
by talking about his 1997 hashcash.

it could also be looking at craig wrights first appearance in the bitcoin scene via a skype call at a different conference a couple years ago where nick szabo introduced craig wright.

thus saying its a 4 way team of
nick szabo,
craig wright,
adam back
and a mysterious 4th party.

sidenote.
adam back and szabo's concepts from years prior to bitcoin did inspire the single entity of satoshi. but adam back was not involved in bitcoins development, neither adam or nick the user behind the name satoshi,

nick did do something for bitcoin but again did not use the satoshi name.

in short its one mysterious single party who is satoshi..  and the other 3 are non-satoshi's, but just trying to get some notoriety for different reasons
.. well thats my 2 cents

There are way bigger chances thtat Adam Back or Nick Szabo are satoshi than Craig Wright, he just lacks the talent.

You don't want to fathom the possibility of Adam Back being either satoshi or part of the satoshi team because you are an anti blockstream troll, that's all. But at the end of the day, Adam Back is forever part of Bitcoin history as he is credited by satoshi in the whitepaper, and will always be a potential satoshi/part of satoshi team like it or not.

In any case, we can't know if satoshi was a single entity of a team of people. He used Tor, so it could have been 1 person or a couple. Any intelligent group of people wanting to pose as 1 person could have had the same person to talk in forums so there are no big differences in writing style to start the team rumors, so we can't know.