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January 27, 2017, 03:43:45 PM
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Hello,

So here is my transaction: 432251090ecb7f0b18f69d1854981dae60269b55649ac2fb9a0b337556a7b83d

I've sent some coins and yesterday the transaction was marked as "Verified". My balance was 1.09077109. I had the terrible bad-luck to find my PC is not booting anymore as my SSD simply died. So no backups of my wallet.dat or anything else. Just my seed on paper.

The first thing I've done is trying to restore my wallet using my seed. And as some may know already, I found that my balance is 0.

Is it any way to get those coins back to my wallet? Any help will be much appreciated.

Thank you!

p.s. Electrum 2.7.18. Multiple address change were enabled. Dynamic fees as well enabled.
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January 27, 2017, 03:54:34 PM
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Hello,

So here is my transaction: 432251090ecb7f0b18f69d1854981dae60269b55649ac2fb9a0b337556a7b83d

I've sent some coins and yesterday the transaction was marked as "Verified". My balance was 1.09077109. I had the terrible bad-luck to find my PC is not booting anymore as my SSD simply died. So no backups of my wallet.dat or anything else. Just my seed on paper.

The first thing I've done is trying to restore my wallet using my seed. And as some may know already, I found that my balance is 0.

Is it any way to get those coins back to my wallet? Any help will be much appreciated.

Thank you!

p.s. Electrum 2.7.18. Multiple address change were enabled. Dynamic fees as well enabled.

OK you can try a few things:

- In case you haven't already done so enable multiple change addresses in your restored wallet too. Tools > preferences i  think.

- Change the server you connected to. Tools > network. See if that fixes the balance

- Run the following command on the console tab and tell us what it outputs:

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wallet.is_mine("1HtDHigRkCPs1Ux6MPhXZ3N85i6ASnm1uA")


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January 27, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
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I recently stumbled upon this Mnemonic Code Converter. Try it (offline from a LIVE CD!), see if this gives you your addresses and keys.

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January 27, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
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OK you can try a few things:

- In case you haven't already done so enable multiple change addresses in your restored wallet too. Tools > preferences i  think.

- Change the server you connected to. Tools > network. See if that fixes the balance

- Run the following command on the console tab and tell us what it outputs:

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wallet.is_mine("1HtDHigRkCPs1Ux6MPhXZ3N85i6ASnm1uA")



Thanks for a really quick reply. There multiple address change were enabled. I've tried early to change the server, tried it again now - the result is the same. The output from console is "False" when I running the command wallet.is_mine

I recently stumbled upon this Mnemonic Code Converter. Try it (offline from a LIVE CD!), see if this gives you your addresses and keys.

Thank you! I'll give it a try and will get back.


UPDATE: I've tried the Mnemonic Code Converter, unfortunately I was not able to find any of my address from that wallet. Definitely I will try other settings for that tool tomorrow. Thank you all who involved.  
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January 28, 2017, 08:35:27 PM
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UPDATE: I've tried the Mnemonic Code Converter, unfortunately I was not able to find any of my address from that wallet. Definitely I will try other settings for that tool tomorrow. Thank you all who involved. 

Don't do that. You shouldn't be entering your seed on any sites! Your seed should always be kept secret.

Please open your restored wallet in electrum, press ctrl+A to bring the addresses tab into view and then  tell me whether there are any familiar address listed there.

Also what version of electrum did you use to originally create this wallet? 2.7.18?

Did you increase the gap limit of your wallet?

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January 29, 2017, 02:48:33 AM
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Are you sure that 1HtDHigRkCPs1Ux6MPhXZ3N85i6ASnm1uA was previously in your wallet and that Electrum was showing your coins?

If so, it sounds like you restored the wrong seeds as the wallet.is_mine command should have returned true if you owned that address. Is it possible that you have multiple seeds and restored the wrong ones?
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January 29, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
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UPDATE: I've tried the Mnemonic Code Converter, unfortunately I was not able to find any of my address from that wallet. Definitely I will try other settings for that tool tomorrow. Thank you all who involved. 

Don't do that. You shouldn't be entering your seed on any sites! Your seed should always be kept secret.

Please open your restored wallet in electrum, press ctrl+A to bring the addresses tab into view and then  tell me whether there are any familiar address listed there.

Also what version of electrum did you use to originally create this wallet? 2.7.18?

Did you increase the gap limit of your wallet?

The wallet was created with electrum 2.6.4, The gap, indeed was increased, after restoring the wallet I've increased it again with 1000 as I did it before. No luck again. I really want to understand what happened with my coins and how to avoid this particular situation in the future.

Are you sure that 1HtDHigRkCPs1Ux6MPhXZ3N85i6ASnm1uA was previously in your wallet and that Electrum was showing your coins?

If so, it sounds like you restored the wrong seeds as the wallet.is_mine command should have returned true if you owned that address. Is it possible that you have multiple seeds and restored the wrong ones?

I am 100% sure I restored the correct seed. Before I've started the transaction, my balance was 5.45887085. Next I made only transaction and it was 4.368099. So "1HtDHigRkCPs1Ux6MPhXZ3N85i6ASnm1uA " would be a change address if I understand it correctly.

After restoring my wallet from seed I've noticed that my last transaction was -5.45887085 and my balance is 0. Before hardware fail the last transaction displayed was -4.368099 and my balance 1.09077


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January 29, 2017, 09:56:50 PM
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UPDATE: I've tried the Mnemonic Code Converter, unfortunately I was not able to find any of my address from that wallet. Definitely I will try other settings for that tool tomorrow. Thank you all who involved. 

Don't do that. You shouldn't be entering your seed on any sites! Your seed should always be kept secret.

Please open your restored wallet in electrum, press ctrl+A to bring the addresses tab into view and then  tell me whether there are any familiar address listed there.

Also what version of electrum did you use to originally create this wallet? 2.7.18?

Did you increase the gap limit of your wallet?

The wallet was created with electrum 2.6.4, The gap, indeed was increased, after restoring the wallet I've increased it again with 1000 as I did it before. No luck again. I really want to understand what happened with my coins and how to avoid this particular situation in the future.

Are you sure that 1HtDHigRkCPs1Ux6MPhXZ3N85i6ASnm1uA was previously in your wallet and that Electrum was showing your coins?

If so, it sounds like you restored the wrong seeds as the wallet.is_mine command should have returned true if you owned that address. Is it possible that you have multiple seeds and restored the wrong ones?

I am 100% sure I restored the correct seed. Before I've started the transaction, my balance was 5.45887085. Next I made only transaction and it was 4.368099. So "1HtDHigRkCPs1Ux6MPhXZ3N85i6ASnm1uA " would be a change address if I understand it correctly.

After restoring my wallet from seed I've noticed that my last transaction was -5.45887085 and my balance is 0. Before hardware fail the last transaction displayed was -4.368099 and my balance 1.09077

Try the ismine command again now that you've increased the gap limit.

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January 30, 2017, 07:41:29 PM
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Try the ismine command again now that you've increased the gap limit.

Tried....it's still false. I remember a strange error I had when I tried to make a small payment, in the same day, from the same wallet. Don't remember all details and Google is not helping me neither but it was : you are violating network rules and the error's number was 16.

To be mentioned: meanwhile I've received one more transaction into that wallet and I was able to transfer out the funds. After this last transaction I will not use this wallet anymore. It's still beyond my knowledge how I lost that 1 BTC Sad
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January 30, 2017, 08:44:37 PM
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Don't give up just yet. Could you please PM me the master public key of your wallet? The master public key (MPK) will allow me to enumerate all the addresses in the wallet. I won't be able to spend your bitcoins but I will see all the addresses and transactions. You can find the master public key under wallet > master public keys.

Alternatively create an issue on github to catch the developer's attention because it looks like you've hit upon a bug.

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January 31, 2017, 01:27:58 PM
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please PM me your xpub if you want me to have a look.

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