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January 30, 2017, 09:31:01 AM
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Trump wants to create safe zones in syria which directly means that the US will have to create no fly zones and send in ground forces.
Putin already answered that russia will in no way accept a no fly zone.

This is the exact thing why people didnt wanted to vote hillary.
Trump seems to do it now.

Discuss.

Nothing to discuss man.

Hillary wants to make that: OMG it's WW3 coming! Don't vote for her she wants war with russia omg doom omg end of the world

Trump actually does it: Nah he's got a bigger plan, it's ok. He's a strategist, there is a whole strategy to stabilize this part of the world.

And Trump supporters call us "illogical libtards" xD

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January 30, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
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   Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.
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January 30, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
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   Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

Very good point indeed. But I would even go further.

USA is trying to threaten both Russia and China. They're just in the middle saying "care folks, don't think too much about becoming friends or I'll reap all of you". That's something terrible, we should just tell them to go fuck themselves. Americans...

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January 30, 2017, 11:40:45 AM
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   Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.
The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.
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February 01, 2017, 08:10:10 AM
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The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

   You are confused! Assad is legit president of Syria, and Russia support Syria and Assad, they are bombing rebellion forces, as we know rebel forces are ISIS. From your point of view US is directly allied with terrorists?
   As I followed news in one moment Russia suggested to US to fight together against rebels and ISIS, US refused that, why?
   Cold war ended 1991, at least that was official announcement, looks like it wasnt end for US, from that time until now US is manipulate with governments, régimes, CIA is working 24\7, and they made a mess where ever that lay their foot.
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February 01, 2017, 10:13:55 AM
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   Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.
The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.

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February 01, 2017, 04:01:52 PM
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   Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.
The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.
Not true! Russia has never fought in Syria with ISIS. Russia is interested that Syria will never have peace. Now media say that the Assad stroke. If this is true then it can greatly complicate Russia's position in Syria. Then they need ISIS.
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February 02, 2017, 06:59:19 PM
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   Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.
The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.
You are not right. Russia is not at war with ISIS. They are fighting only the Americans. And the fact that it is very slow, it is because the Americans did not destroy the whole city to kill 100 bandits.
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February 02, 2017, 10:41:08 PM
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I think that Syria could start world war 3. This is much worse than America's war with Russia. In Syria crossed the interests of many States. Russia felt America's weakness and is now trying to capture more territories.
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February 03, 2017, 03:29:25 AM
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You are not right. Russia is not at war with ISIS. They are fighting only the Americans. And the fact that it is very slow, it is because the Americans did not destroy the whole city to kill 100 bandits.

You are mistaken. Look at the current scenario. Last month, more than 90% of the Russian airstrikes were directed against the ISIS. The SAA-Russian-Iranian alliance is advancing against the ISIS in several fronts. These include Northeast Aleppo (Al Bab), Southeast Aleppo (Deir Hefer), Central Desert (Palmyra), Eastern Desert (Deir Ezzor), and Tabqa.

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February 03, 2017, 05:30:30 AM
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Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!

Like an Apache escorting ISIS convoys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jQRqU-KAcM

Supplies to the facade "FSA" ending up with ISIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9k9HbHMZqg

A second hand Texan pick-up ending with them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ojLvxXLKo

Supply crates falling "by mistake" at ISIS controlled territory, and so on, and so on...
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

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February 03, 2017, 12:03:19 PM
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You are not right. Russia is not at war with ISIS. They are fighting only the Americans. And the fact that it is very slow, it is because the Americans did not destroy the whole city to kill 100 bandits.

You are mistaken. Look at the current scenario. Last month, more than 90% of the Russian airstrikes were directed against the ISIS. The SAA-Russian-Iranian alliance is advancing against the ISIS in several fronts. These include Northeast Aleppo (Al Bab), Southeast Aleppo (Deir Hefer), Central Desert (Palmyra), Eastern Desert (Deir Ezzor), and Tabqa.
Unfortunately neither you nor I can say that Russian is not bombing Syrian cities and there not killed civilians. You for your posts, use the official information of Russian mass Media and who believes them?
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February 04, 2017, 04:56:12 PM
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   Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.
The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.
In Syria, the Russian bombing of the city. They are not fighting ISIS. We saw Russian gave ISIS Palmyra and left there a lot of weapons. Even tanks! You want to say it was an accident?
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February 04, 2017, 11:17:28 PM
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Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!.....
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

I think that Trump and Putin together can put a stop to the utter nonsense of the tragedy in Syria.

Trump said he would. 

Hitlery pretty much said she would expand it, fighting the Evil Russia.
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February 05, 2017, 12:40:02 AM
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Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!.....
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

I think that Trump and Putin together can put a stop to the utter nonsense of the tragedy in Syria.

Trump said he would. 

Hitlery pretty much said she would expand it, fighting the Evil Russia.
The cooperation of Trump and Putin can neither good cause. How can they lead to peace in Syria, if the interests of their opposite. No, I think it is a utopia born of a diseased imagination of Putin. Putin considers Trump an idiot. Therefore, offers cooperation.
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Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!.....
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

I think that Trump and Putin together can put a stop to the utter nonsense of the tragedy in Syria.

Trump said he would. 

Hitlery pretty much said she would expand it, fighting the Evil Russia.
The cooperation of Trump and Putin can neither good cause. How can they lead to peace in Syria, if the interests of their opposite. No, I think it is a utopia born of a diseased imagination of Putin. Putin considers Trump an idiot. Therefore, offers cooperation.
putin knew for fact Obama was idiot

Now he has to deal with trump
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What interests?! Why would US' interests conflict with Russian at Syria? Obama's "friend" and ISIS leader, Erdogan*, may be interested into get Syria to restart his Ottoman Empire, but this doesn't mean Trump will play along.
As for oil, Russians and Americans can cut it 50-50.

* Won't you find strange his priorities to be 1st eliminate PKK (Curds), 2nd Assad and "finally" 3rd ISIS/Daesh... Also FSA was trained at Turkey and most just changed allegiance on arrival to ISIS.

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February 05, 2017, 05:32:51 AM
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What interests?! Why would US' interests conflict with Russian at Syria? Obama's "friend" and ISIS leader, Erdogan*, may be interested into get Syria to restart his Ottoman Empire, but this doesn't mean Trump will play along.
As for oil, Russians and Americans can cut it 50-50.

* Won't you find strange his priorities to be 1st eliminate PKK (Curds), 2nd Assad and "finally" 3rd ISIS/Daesh... Also FSA was trained at Turkey and most just changed allegiance on arrival to ISIS.

US wont need it.
Trump jusr declared that the US will be energy (oil) independent in his term.
He wants to increase US production by some million barrels per day and enact a import tariff for foreign oil.
The first steps are already done with the new pipelines and free drilling on public land.

How can there be peace if this decision will bring putin and russia on the brink of bankruptcy?

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February 05, 2017, 07:07:26 AM
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You are not right. Russia is not at war with ISIS. They are fighting only the Americans. And the fact that it is very slow, it is because the Americans did not destroy the whole city to kill 100 bandits.

Where is Russia fighting against the Americans in Syria? The Russians and the Americans are both supporting the Kurdish YPG, which is fighting against the ISIS. And don't forget the Americans bombing hospitals in Afghanistan, killing dozens of civilians.

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What interests?! Why would US' interests conflict with Russian at Syria? Obama's "friend" and ISIS leader, Erdogan*, may be interested into get Syria to restart his Ottoman Empire, but this doesn't mean Trump will play along.
As for oil, Russians and Americans can cut it 50-50.

* Won't you find strange his priorities to be 1st eliminate PKK (Curds), 2nd Assad and "finally" 3rd ISIS/Daesh... Also FSA was trained at Turkey and most just changed allegiance on arrival to ISIS.

US wont need it.
Trump jusr declared that the US will be energy (oil) independent in his term.
He wants to increase US production by some million barrels per day and enact a import tariff for foreign oil.
The first steps are already done with the new pipelines and free drilling on public land.

How can there be peace if this decision will bring putin and russia on the brink of bankruptcy?
The USA becoming energy independant or moving in that direction will not put putin on the brink of bankruptcy.  World energy prices are NOT controlled by the USA.  Or by Putin for that matter.
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