No Pardon for Ross Ulbricht

[BADecker]

Well Ross made a crime and he should suffer in jail. Its not the presidents of America why he is in jail, it is his own actions that led him to be placed in jail. If he did not make any illegal and illicit activities then he would be in jail in the first place. Also maybe the reason why he was not given a presidential pardon was he did not play as a good man in the penitentiary.

It's not about him being a good boy or not. When you are sentenced for life you can be the nicest inmate in the world and it won't matter.
IMO his sentence should be reduced. Yes, he did something illegal, but he hasn't killed anyone, he just created a market site. Killers and rapists are usually sentenced for 5-10 years. I've seen pedophile murderers, who raped and killed a child, sentenced only to 25 years, and this guy gets life? This has nothing to do with justice.

I never really understood these types of sentences for someone who didn't actually end someone else's own life. You know, an eye for an eye type of thing.  Even if he actually was doing the actual dealing of drugs online, rather than hosting the site for other drug dealers to use, it doesn't really matter.  Jail, how I believe it should be, is a way to act as a way for "civilized revenge" to take place and a way to sort of rehabilitate people and make sure they won't want to do whatever crime it is they were committing in the first place. 

If Ross was actually dealing drugs... does it seem right to put him in their for life? Rather than let him serve a few years (which is a LONG LONG time in jail) in order to scare him not to do the same thing and allow him to live his life from that point on? Idk... the whole system is fucked anyways, so why not torture him by forcing him to live for 60 years in a cage.

The sentence was not meant to scare him. It was meant to scare everyone from using and dealing in the dark markets. The US government also has a knack for overkill. So of course a life sentence for him is very unfair. He is just an entrepreneur who saw a gap in the market and took that opportunity to start something new and brilliant. Do you think dark markets will go away soon? No it is growing into a multi billion dollar market.

On top of that, it shows how embedded medical criminality is in Government. Medical controlled Government is doing away with as much of the drug competition that it can.

The important thing about this for us is, since the medical uses drugs that are far worse than any that were marketed through Ross's Silk Road construct, those free market drugs must be really good and really cheap. Otherwise the medical would have instructed Government to let Ross off with only a slap on the wrist.

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[Sithara007]

It's not about him being a good boy or not. When you are sentenced for life you can be the nicest inmate in the world and it won't matter.
IMO his sentence should be reduced. Yes, he did something illegal, but he hasn't killed anyone, he just created a market site. Killers and rapists are usually sentenced for 5-10 years. I've seen pedophile murderers, who raped and killed a child, sentenced only to 25 years, and this guy gets life? This has nothing to do with justice.

You don't get it. Ross caused billions of USD in revenue loss to the drug cartels (and the banks which launder their money), and therefore he was sentenced to life without parole. On the other hand, child killers doesn't matter to the judges, as long as the victim comes from some broken family with no political connection.

[criptix]

It's not about him being a good boy or not. When you are sentenced for life you can be the nicest inmate in the world and it won't matter.
IMO his sentence should be reduced. Yes, he did something illegal, but he hasn't killed anyone, he just created a market site. Killers and rapists are usually sentenced for 5-10 years. I've seen pedophile murderers, who raped and killed a child, sentenced only to 25 years, and this guy gets life? This has nothing to do with justice.

You don't get it. Ross caused billions of USD in revenue loss to the drug cartels (and the banks which launder their money), and therefore he was sentenced to life without parole. On the other hand, child killers doesn't matter to the judges, as long as the victim comes from some broken family with no political connection.

From a russian troll to DEA agent in a matter of seconds.
We should trust his words and expertise regarding this topic.
Billions of $ lost for the drug cartels... Lol

Im still cringing on the ground

[BADecker]

It's not about him being a good boy or not. When you are sentenced for life you can be the nicest inmate in the world and it won't matter.
IMO his sentence should be reduced. Yes, he did something illegal, but he hasn't killed anyone, he just created a market site. Killers and rapists are usually sentenced for 5-10 years. I've seen pedophile murderers, who raped and killed a child, sentenced only to 25 years, and this guy gets life? This has nothing to do with justice.

You don't get it. Ross caused billions of USD in revenue loss to the drug cartels (and the banks which launder their money), and therefore he was sentenced to life without parole. On the other hand, child killers doesn't matter to the judges, as long as the victim comes from some broken family with no political connection.

From a russian troll to DEA agent in a matter of seconds.
We should trust his words and expertise regarding this topic.
Billions of $ lost for the drug cartels... Lol

Im still cringing on the ground

Illegal drug cartels ARE $billions lost for the legal drug cartels... and sometimes the other way around, as well.

[Sithara007]

Illegal drug cartels ARE $billions lost for the legal drug cartels... and sometimes the other way around, as well.

Cocaine, LSD, meth.etc are not legal. So the legal drug cartels (big pharma) profits only when some of these drug users shift to alternatives such as Propylhexedrine, Oxymetazoline, Oxymorphone, Dextromethorphan, and Doxylamine.

[BADecker]

Illegal drug cartels ARE $billions lost for the legal drug cartels... and sometimes the other way around, as well.

Cocaine, LSD, meth.etc are not legal. So the legal drug cartels (big pharma) profits only when some of these drug users shift to alternatives such as Propylhexedrine, Oxymetazoline, Oxymorphone, Dextromethorphan, and Doxylamine.

And now we have legal pot, which has forms of inexpensive, really-good "medicine" within, that is working far better than the medical legal drugs, and is cutting into medical profits. Soon pot will be legal to the extent that it will be grown in the back yard of every home, for medicinal purposes. The medical drug cartel will die.

[Sithara007]

Illegal drug cartels ARE $billions lost for the legal drug cartels... and sometimes the other way around, as well.

Cocaine, LSD, meth.etc are not legal. So the legal drug cartels (big pharma) profits only when some of these drug users shift to alternatives such as Propylhexedrine, Oxymetazoline, Oxymorphone, Dextromethorphan, and Doxylamine.

And now we have legal pot, which has forms of inexpensive, really-good "medicine" within, that is working far better than the medical legal drugs, and is cutting into medical profits. Soon pot will be legal to the extent that it will be grown in the back yard of every home, for medicinal purposes. The medical drug cartel will die.

Marijuana is a good painkiller. It is inexpensive and more effective. And moreover, it is having no significant adverse effects, when compared to other industrial painkillers such as Hydrocodone and Demerol. But other than that, it has no medicinal properties.

[tinus42]

Every 4 years, a US president leaves and lets a whole bunch of people out of jail by decree.  Obama let out FAR, FAR more than any other president.  Well over 1,500!  Guess who was not on the list?  That's right Ross Ulbricht of Bitcoin fame.  Since Trump isn't letting anyone out of jail unless they are his friends, Ulbricht doesn't stand a chance for another 8 years at least!  Probably 12 more years before even being considered.  That sucks.  Obama could have let him out.  One strike of the pen- he would be free.  It is over for him now.  Over. 

Where does this idea of Obama as saintly figure originate? He dropped twice as much bombs on the Middle East as Bush and there has not been a single day of peace since he became president, yet he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Is it because of his Black Skin?