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[JimmiesForBitcoins]

However, there exists in our minds an imaginary entity called “God,” and this entity is considered perfectly moral. Unfortunately, this entity continually and grossly violates the edict that “violence is wrong” by drowning the world, consigning souls to hell despite a perfect foreknowledge of their
“decisions,” sanctioning rape, murder, theft, assault and other actions that we would condemn as utterly evil in any individual.

christian god? okay... i read on...

Where the heck did you just pull that from?

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[kokjo]

However, there exists in our minds an imaginary entity called “God,” and this entity is considered perfectly moral. Unfortunately, this entity continually and grossly violates the edict that “violence is wrong” by drowning the world, consigning souls to hell despite a perfect foreknowledge of their
“decisions,” sanctioning rape, murder, theft, assault and other actions that we would condemn as utterly evil in any individual.

christian god? okay... i read on...

Where the heck did you just pull that from?

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!

[kokjo]

The scientific method, rationality itself, and mathematical laws are all examples of objective criteria for
establishing the truth of a proposition.

and that is a subjective opinion!

[myrkul]

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!

And you call him biased?

The scientific method, rationality itself, and mathematical laws are all examples of objective criteria for
establishing the truth of a proposition.

and that is a subjective opinion!

Is it merely an opinion that 2+2=4?

[kokjo]

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!

And you call him biased?

powerful ideas for all lovers of personal and political freedom.
Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world.

yes, they are indeed self proclaimed libertards.

The scientific method, rationality itself, and mathematical laws are all examples of objective criteria for
establishing the truth of a proposition.

and that is a subjective opinion!

Is it merely an opinion that 2+2=4?

yes, based on rules i have to subjectively accept before i can do math, i could just reject them and be done with it.

[Mike Christ]

yes, based on rules i have to subjectively accept before i can do math, i could just reject them and be done with it.

But then you'd be a fruit  A pineapple, specifically, because I have to subjectively accept whether or not you're a human being.

[kokjo]

and math(peano arithmetic; 2+2=4) have already been shown to be incomplete or inconsistent, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris%E2%80%93Harrington_theorem

[kokjo]

i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.

[myrkul]

i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.

You can't even spell "conclude"

You're hopeless.

[myrkul]

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!

And you call him biased?

powerful ideas for all lovers of personal and political freedom.
Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world.

yes, they are indeed self proclaimed libertards.

No, they are self-professed libertarians. Your use of the pejorative, "libertard" shows your bias, not theirs.

[Mike Christ]

I still think anyone who would shoot me over money simply because it was no longer illegal still has a lot of living left to do.

[kokjo]

i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.

You can't even spell "conclude"

You're hopeless.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!

And you call him biased?

powerful ideas for all lovers of personal and political freedom.
Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world.

yes, they are indeed self proclaimed libertards.

No, they are self-professed libertarians. Your use of the pejorative, "libertard" shows your bias, not theirs.

i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.

[myrkul]

i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.

You can't even spell "conclude"

You're hopeless.

This is a conclusion, based on your statements, that trying to convince you to use your mind is a waste of my time. Not a personal attack.

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!

And you call him biased?

powerful ideas for all lovers of personal and political freedom.
Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world.

yes, they are indeed self proclaimed libertards.

No, they are self-professed libertarians. Your use of the pejorative, "libertard" shows your bias, not theirs.

i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.

By contrast, you are implying here that because we hold views differing from your own, that we are retarded.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

[Mike Christ]

i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.

And statists are emotionless sociopaths.

[JimmiesForBitcoins]

However, there exists in our minds an imaginary entity called “God,” and this entity is considered perfectly moral. Unfortunately, this entity continually and grossly violates the edict that “violence is wrong” by drowning the world, consigning souls to hell despite a perfect foreknowledge of their
“decisions,” sanctioning rape, murder, theft, assault and other actions that we would condemn as utterly evil in any individual.

christian god? okay... i read on...

Where the heck did you just pull that from?

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!

Well whoever the author of that book was is confused at least on that point; in seeking to apply an external standard of goodness to God's behavior, they're demonstrating a lack of understanding regarding the bible's basis of what "good" even is. Good and God are effectively synonymous in biblical thought, the latter defining the former by very definition. Goodness literally being Godness, (or to quote Jesus, none is good, except God alone; and to quote Paul, all good things come from God) but that's a different topic entirely.

Like I said previously though; when we have a goal in mind, we can determine the efficiency of a particular set of parameters toward contributing to that goal. So while I deny the cognitive basis of that sort of morality, I recognize that one can determine the empirical pragmatism of operating in accordance with that morality toward contributing to a stated goal.

IE, absolute morality is logical, even if you don't understand why it's logical. You don't have to understand why gravity works, just what it does. Unless of course you're actually a brain inside a jar being fed an artificial reality. In which case, I guess we'll never know.

[myrkul]

i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.

And statists are emotionless sociopaths.

Yup. He started off this discussion by complaining the the NAP was "forcing" him not to use force on others.

[kokjo]

i should join their forum, and see how long before a ban. if i did said i supported communism...

[myrkul]

Well whoever the author of that book was is confused at least on that point; in seeking to apply an external standard of goodness to God's behavior

Not external. His own. What good is a god who does not follow his own edicts?

[Mike Christ]

The character prescribed as God changes between novels.  I assume the "Christian God" is the New Testament version.

[myrkul]

The character prescribed as God changes between novels.  I assume the "Christian God" is the New Testament version.

A better explanation would be insanity. Specifically, a severe case of manic-depressive disorder. He's also clearly described as jealous and narcissistic throughout.