|
myrkul
|
 |
April 17, 2013, 08:26:35 PM |
|
Are you okay with violence being used against me, even when I have not provoked it?
but you have, by not following the rules. And if those rules said that I owned you, completely? |
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
 Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:27:34 PM |
|
but you have, by not following the rules.
So if I was sitting in my home, minding my own business, and then someone burst in and said, "GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY OR YOU WILL GO TO JAIL, AND IF YOU RESIST I WILL KILL YOU" It's okay if it's a law. So how's the box working out for ya? i see no question mark after your first statement. and i don't understand your second... |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
Mike Christ
aka snapsunny
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:28:38 PM |
|
but you have, by not following the rules.
So if I was sitting in my home, minding my own business, and then someone burst in and said, "GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY OR YOU WILL GO TO JAIL, AND IF YOU RESIST I WILL KILL YOU" It's okay if it's a law. So how's the box working out for ya? i see no question mark after your first statement. and i don't understand your second... That's because my first statement was a statement. The second one implies that you're still not thinking about what I'm saying  |
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:28:43 PM |
|
Are you okay with violence being used against me, even when I have not provoked it?
but you have, by not following the rules. And if those rules said that I owned you, completely? i have provoked you, but i don't see that you have the power to enforce that rule, so i will laugh at you. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
Mike Christ
aka snapsunny
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:31:39 PM |
|
Now we must define provocation...
pro·voke
/prəˈvōk/
Verb
Stimulate or give rise to (a reaction or emotion, typically a strong or unwelcome one) in someone.
Stimulate or incite (someone) to do or feel something, esp. by arousing anger in them.
Let's just assume that "doing nothing" cannot be in line with "provocation," because "doing nothing" implies no verb has taken place.
|
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:34:42 PM |
|
Now we must define provocation...
pro·voke
/prəˈvōk/
Verb
Stimulate or give rise to (a reaction or emotion, typically a strong or unwelcome one) in someone.
Stimulate or incite (someone) to do or feel something, esp. by arousing anger in them.
Let's just assume that "doing nothing" cannot be in line with "provocation," because "doing nothing" implies no verb has taken place.
oh, i can provoke by doing nothing. your interpretation is wrong. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
Mike Christ
aka snapsunny
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:37:35 PM |
|
No, your interpretation is wrong. If anyone punches you in the face for being from Denmark, you have every right to be mad. You did nothing.
|
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:43:02 PM |
|
No, your interpretation is wrong. If anyone punches you in the face for being from Denmark, you have every right to be mad. You did nothing.
and still somehow the other person felt provoked... don't you find that odd? |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:51:20 PM |
|
No, your interpretation is wrong. If anyone punches you in the face for being from Denmark, you have every right to be mad. You did nothing.
and still somehow the other person felt provoked... don't you find that odd? Yes, because I find all forms of insanity "odd." |
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:53:21 PM |
|
No, your interpretation is wrong. If anyone punches you in the face for being from Denmark, you have every right to be mad. You did nothing.
and still somehow the other person felt provoked... don't you find that odd? Yes, because I find all forms of insanity "odd." okay. He does not agree with you, call him insane and lock him up. Great solution. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:56:58 PM |
|
No, your interpretation is wrong. If anyone punches you in the face for being from Denmark, you have every right to be mad. You did nothing.
and still somehow the other person felt provoked... don't you find that odd? Yes, because I find all forms of insanity "odd." okay. He does not agree with you, call him insane and lock him up. Great solution. No, He considers place of birth provocation for violence, call him insane and resist violence with proportionate force. |
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:58:41 PM |
|
No, your interpretation is wrong. If anyone punches you in the face for being from Denmark, you have every right to be mad. You did nothing.
and still somehow the other person felt provoked... don't you find that odd? Yes, because I find all forms of insanity "odd." okay. He does not agree with you, call him insane and lock him up. Great solution. No, He considers place of birth provocation for violence, call him insane and resist violence with proportionate force.You lock him up. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:05:11 PM |
|
You lock him up.
Dude, what is your fetish with cages? In what way is putting a man in a cage resisting with proportional force? You don't "lock him up," you prevent or stop him hitting you. Simple as that. |
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:08:54 PM |
|
You lock him up.
Dude, what is your fetish with cages? In what way is putting a man in a cage resisting with proportional force? You don't "lock him up," you prevent or stop him hitting you. Simple as that. ... so he can do it again? NO, you lock him up! (on the fetish thing: yes i have.) |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:12:15 PM |
|
You lock him up.
Dude, what is your fetish with cages? In what way is putting a man in a cage resisting with proportional force? You don't "lock him up," you prevent or stop him hitting you. Simple as that. ... so he can do it again? NO, you lock him up! Do you not believe in rehabilitation? (on the fetish thing: yes i have.)
Well, that explains a few things. |
|
|
|
Mike Christ
aka snapsunny
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:15:56 PM |
|
Well, that explains a few things.
That only explains everything |
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:18:47 PM |
|
You lock him up.
Dude, what is your fetish with cages? In what way is putting a man in a cage resisting with proportional force? You don't "lock him up," you prevent or stop him hitting you. Simple as that. ... so he can do it again? NO, you lock him up! Do you not believe in rehabilitation? depends on the definition. (on the fetish thing: yes i have.)
Well, that explains a few things. Please explain that comment, and try not to make any assumptions about me. I have a whole different perspective then you. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:21:20 PM |
|
You lock him up.
Dude, what is your fetish with cages? In what way is putting a man in a cage resisting with proportional force? You don't "lock him up," you prevent or stop him hitting you. Simple as that. ... so he can do it again? NO, you lock him up! Do you not believe in rehabilitation? depends on the definition. "the restoration of someone to a useful place in society." |
|
|
|
kokjo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:22:10 PM |
|
You lock him up.
Dude, what is your fetish with cages? In what way is putting a man in a cage resisting with proportional force? You don't "lock him up," you prevent or stop him hitting you. Simple as that. ... so he can do it again? NO, you lock him up! Do you not believe in rehabilitation? depends on the definition. "the restoration of someone to a useful place in society." I can agree with that. yes, i support rehabilitation. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:23:16 PM |
|
I can agree with that. yes, i support rehabilitation.
Then can you explain how locking a man in a cage will achieve that? |
|
|
|
|
