This is the thread where you discuss free market, americans and libertarianism

[kokjo]

the customers don't really care before its too late...

So, you're telling me that if your grocery store shot all the employees of a rival grocery store, and changed the sign to theirs, you would continue shopping there?

yes, why not. surely they must have had their reasons for doing so...

[myrkul]

let me ask you a very simple question:

why have the state of Denmark not yet collapsed? its democracy been around for 164 years, the illusion of safety and the corruption of the government should be very clear to the population now... would you think? why are people not rebelling against the wrongful and evil state of Denmark?

please enlighten me.

So, you're telling me that if your grocery store shot all the employees of a rival grocery store, and changed the sign to theirs, you would continue shopping there?

yes, why not. surely they must have had their reasons for doing so...

If you're a representative citizen, there's your answer. They're all idiots.

[kokjo]

let me ask you a very simple question:

why have the state of Denmark not yet collapsed? its democracy been around for 164 years, the illusion of safety and the corruption of the government should be very clear to the population now... would you think? why are people not rebelling against the wrongful and evil state of Denmark?

please enlighten me.

So, you're telling me that if your grocery store shot all the employees of a rival grocery store, and changed the sign to theirs, you would continue shopping there?

yes, why not. surely they must have had their reasons for doing so...

If you're a representative citizen, there's your answer. They're all idiots.

oh, we don't agree with you, and then we are idiots?

[kokjo]

please give me a better explanation then that.

[myrkul]

let me ask you a very simple question:

why have the state of Denmark not yet collapsed? its democracy been around for 164 years, the illusion of safety and the corruption of the government should be very clear to the population now... would you think? why are people not rebelling against the wrongful and evil state of Denmark?

please enlighten me.

So, you're telling me that if your grocery store shot all the employees of a rival grocery store, and changed the sign to theirs, you would continue shopping there?

yes, why not. surely they must have had their reasons for doing so...

If you're a representative citizen, there's your answer. They're all idiots.

oh, we don't agree with you, and then we are idiots?

No, I've had intelligent conversations with people I disagree with. Even anti-property socialists. None of them have displayed the level of idiocy you just did, however.

"I'm sure they had a good reason for murdering those people and taking over their store."

[kokjo]

oh, we don't agree with you, and then we are idiots?

No, I've had intelligent conversations with people I disagree with. Even anti-property socialists. None of them have displayed the level of idiocy you just did, however.

"I'm sure they had a good reason for murdering those people and taking over their store."

and you still fail to see it when im trolling you hard...

[myrkul]

oh, we don't agree with you, and then we are idiots?

No, I've had intelligent conversations with people I disagree with. Even anti-property socialists. None of them have displayed the level of idiocy you just did, however.

"I'm sure they had a good reason for murdering those people and taking over their store."

and you still fail to see it when im trolling you hard...

In that case:

I'm just going to repeat this:

I think the fellow is too dim-witted and brainwashed.

Have a nice day.

[kokjo]

oh, we don't agree with you, and then we are idiots?

No, I've had intelligent conversations with people I disagree with. Even anti-property socialists. None of them have displayed the level of idiocy you just did, however.

"I'm sure they had a good reason for murdering those people and taking over their store."

and you still fail to see it when im trolling you hard...

In that case:

I'm just going to repeat this:

I think the fellow is too dim-witted and brainwashed.

Have a nice day.

you still have to give a better explanation of why Denmark have not yet crashed, then just "all danes are stupid and brainwashed just like you".

[Rassah]

and yet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket

And yet, ask someone from southern Italy what they think about the protection racket from the mafia that controls that part of the country. They'll tell you they're quite satisfied, and that there's no racket. The mafia doesn't bother you if you don't bother them, because to them it's just as much of a pain and an expense to screw with you, as it is for you if they screw with you. Their goal is to keep people safe, happy, and paying for security. Security which is evident by the almost total lack of robberies, drug dealings, and murders in that part of the country. Bad people don't want to piss off the mafia, basically.

Hell, let's even bring Somalia into this. Ask the people living under the local "warlords" what they think about their protection racket. They'll tell you they feel a lot safer with all the protection, and that it's not a racket, because, again, the "war lords" that are there now are just businessmen who's interest is to keep people safe so that they stay there and keep paying, instead of making them run away. What's more, many other such "businessmen" also now believe that it's easier to win customers by providing good security and service, than by trying to win territory from competitors through war, so they have an understanding between them that they don't fight each other on the streets, since it's bad for business. Sure, there is still a lot of fighting and killing in Somalia, but that's now almost exclusively from religious extremists affiliated with Al Queda, and some power-hungry dictator wana-bees that didn't get the message yet.

[kokjo]

Sheesh... I go away and have a life for a few hours, and when I come back there's 3 pages of Myrkul being a dickhead troll. Give it up Kokjo. It's always like this with these An-Cap retards.

i properly should stop discussing with them

On the one hand the two-faced bastards (An-Caps) preach peace and serenity, on the other hand they're crazy gun nuts who not only want to impose their iron-fisted will on everyone, but they are stubbornly unable to comprehend why not everyone likes the An-Cap idea of society.

+1

security officers at universities? wtf! are you people crazy?

LOL.  I guess in Denmark all the private security guards are taken up by the cartoonists.

The point you missed was that some countries don't need visible on-site security at their universities at all!
And the idiot Myrkul starts posting pages of crap, also missing the point!

yup, that was my point well put.

[Rassah]

on the other hand they're crazy gun nuts who not only want to impose their iron-fisted will on everyone, but they are stubbornly unable to comprehend why not everyone likes the An-Cap idea of society.

Lol! Impose iron-fisted will on everyone?

You WILL have the choice to do what you wish, and NO ONE will be able to impose ANY rules on you or abridge your freedoms IN ANY WAY because I said so! *shakes iron fist*

That's hillarious!


Actually, that sounds very much like American Christians trying to pass laws that ban abortion and homosexuality, and force religion into public office, and then yell, "We are being oppressed!" when the people who are NOT Christians tell them to stop doing oppressive stuff. Sorry, but you can't claim someone is imposing their iron will on you, when they are just trying to stop YOU from imposing YOUR iron will on everyone else.

[Rassah]

you still have to give a better explanation of why Denmark have not yet crashed, then just "all danes are stupid and brainwashed just like you".

And you should explain why Rome has not crashed after surviving for hundreds of years oh wait.....

[myrkul]

Sheesh... I go away and have a life for a few hours, and when I come back there's 3 pages of Myrkul being a dickhead troll.

You mean Kokjo, right?

and you still fail to see it when im trolling you hard...

I guess what I'm saying is blablahblah is kind of dumb.

Oh, right, I forgot.

Have a nice day, children.

[kokjo]

Actually, that sounds very much like American Christians trying to pass laws that ban abortion and homosexuality, and force religion into public office, and then yell, "We are being oppressed!" when the people who are NOT Christians tell them to stop doing oppressive stuff. Sorry, but you can't claim someone is imposing their iron will on you, when they are just trying to stop YOU from imposing YOUR iron will on everyone else.

well except that you are the people yelling "We are being oppressed!". AnCap people is a minority, accept it!

[myrkul]

Hell, let's even bring Somalia into this. Ask the people living under the local "warlords" what they think about their protection racket. They'll tell you they feel a lot safer with all the protection, and that it's not a racket, because, again, the "war lords" that are there now are just businessmen who's interest is to keep people safe so that they stay there and keep paying, instead of making them run away. What's more, many other such "businessmen" also now believe that it's easier to win customers by providing good security and service, than by trying to win territory from competitors through war, so they have an understanding between them that they don't fight each other on the streets, since it's bad for business. Sure, there is still a lot of fighting and killing in Somalia, but that's now almost exclusively from religious extremists affiliated with Al Queda, and some power-hungry dictator wana-bees that didn't get the message yet.

Don't forget the foreign militaries trying to impose a government whether the people want one or not.

[Mike Christ]

It's already been established both kokjo and blablahblah are sociopaths  The argument ended for me once I realized the opposition have no souls to begin with.  Better odds winning an argument with a dog; in the end, you just grab the dog by the neck, show them what they did wrong and yell "No!  Bad!" and they'll inevitably listen.  The only way you'll get a dog to listen is coercion, and it's the one language they'll understand.

Thankfully, there's still plenty of us with a sense of empathy, and with that, we can draw the line between the men and the dogs.

[Rassah]

Actually, that sounds very much like American Christians trying to pass laws that ban abortion and homosexuality, and force religion into public office, and then yell, "We are being oppressed!" when the people who are NOT Christians tell them to stop doing oppressive stuff. Sorry, but you can't claim someone is imposing their iron will on you, when they are just trying to stop YOU from imposing YOUR iron will on everyone else.

well except that you are the people yelling "We are being oppressed!". AnCap people is a minority, accept it!

Ok, please give me a list of what kind of rules or things will be forced on you should AnCap take over and you find yourself in an AnCap world? What exactly will you be oppressed with or forced to do?

[wdmw]

...ancap does not function well without a state...

I'm just catching up on this thread, and thought this was worth calling out.

[kokjo]

Actually, that sounds very much like American Christians trying to pass laws that ban abortion and homosexuality, and force religion into public office, and then yell, "We are being oppressed!" when the people who are NOT Christians tell them to stop doing oppressive stuff. Sorry, but you can't claim someone is imposing their iron will on you, when they are just trying to stop YOU from imposing YOUR iron will on everyone else.

well except that you are the people yelling "We are being oppressed!". AnCap people is a minority, accept it!

Ok, please give me a list of what kind of rules or things will be forced on you should AnCap take over and you find yourself in an AnCap world? What exactly will you be oppressed with or forced to do?

absolut freedom and resposability will be forced upon me, and i don't want that.

do you think AnCap people is a minority? (please just for once answer the fucking question)

[myrkul]

...ancap does not function well without a state...

I'm just catching up on this thread, and thought this was worth calling out.

Yeah, kinda like saying fire doesn't function well without ice.