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May 12, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.

People other than you, who would make unprovoked attacks for profit.

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May 12, 2013, 04:20:59 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.
Not necessarily.

Especially when you consider this stat:
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DenmarkUS
Believe in police efficiency71%89%
Ranked 7th.Ranked 1st. 25% more than Denmark

And let's not forget this one:
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DenmarkUS
Perception of safety Walking in dark81%82%
Ranked 6th.Ranked 2nd. 1% more than Denmark

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May 12, 2013, 04:25:43 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Denmark/United-States/
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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.
People other than you, who would make unprovoked attacks for profit.
of course i do that! who would not? survival of the fittest, you know?
in most cases of course it would be way to risky to do that because of the police. there are just higher costs then benefits to going around killing people.


but if it is best solution(chance of survival, profit, other benefits...) for me: sure, kill them all!

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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May 12, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Denmark/United-States/
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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.
People other than you, who would make unprovoked attacks for profit.
of course i do that! who would not? survival of the fittest, you know?
in most cases of course it would be way to risky to do that because of the police. there are just higher costs then benefits to going around killing people.


but if it is best solution(chance of survival, profit, other benefits...) for me: sure, kill them all!
How'd that work out for Anders Breivik?

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May 12, 2013, 04:32:51 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Denmark/United-States/
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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.

You just can't post without telling another lie, can you?

25% more in USA believe in police efficiency than in Denmark.

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May 12, 2013, 04:35:47 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Denmark/United-States/
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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.

You just can't post without telling another lie, can you?

25% more in USA believe in police efficiency than in Denmark.
True(according the these numbers). But the quote is still valid.

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May 12, 2013, 04:36:17 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Denmark/United-States/
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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.
People other than you, who would make unprovoked attacks for profit.
of course i do that! who would not? survival of the fittest, you know?
in most cases of course it would be way to risky to do that because of the police. there are just higher costs then benefits to going around killing people.


but if it is best solution(chance of survival, profit, other benefits...) for me: sure, kill them all!

So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.

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May 12, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
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He's a Dane, and has probably never touched a gun, much less fired one.
and im proud of living in a society that ables me to survive without touching one.

gun nuts!

Such dishonesty!  The Assault rate in Denmark is 17% higher than in the USA.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Denmark/United-States/
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People victimized by assault (as a % of the total population). Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevelence.
in other words, people in Denmark believe in the authority of the police, while USA is afraid of it.
People other than you, who would make unprovoked attacks for profit.
of course i do that! who would not? survival of the fittest, you know?
in most cases of course it would be way to risky to do that because of the police. there are just higher costs then benefits to going around killing people.


but if it is best solution(chance of survival, profit, other benefits...) for me: sure, kill them all!
How'd that work out for Anders Breivik?

To be fair, that was in Norway.

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May 12, 2013, 04:41:12 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.

Yup.

To be fair, that was in Norway.
Another country where people can "Survive without touching" a gun.
Well, except the 70-odd people he killed.

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May 12, 2013, 04:47:09 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.
i AnCap there would more violence because there is no force(police, government) trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.

AnCap would, as any other society, be under the law of natural selection. In a AnCap society it would be the strongest(most guns and ammo) who is the most fittest... in a statist society it would be the smartest.

im more smart then strong, i choose the statist society.

(and you are stupid!)

How'd that work out for Anders Breivik?
To be fair, that was in Norway.
and the dude was crazy too. but then again he did accomplished what he wanted, he believed that the benefits was grater then the costs(him and his course, not his victims).

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May 12, 2013, 04:48:29 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.

Yup.

To be fair, that was in Norway.
Another country where people can "Survive without touching" a gun.
Well, except the 70-odd people he killed.

True.

You may find this amusing:
http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=6841

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May 12, 2013, 04:50:36 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.
in AnCap there would more violence because there is no force(police, government) trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.
Um... What?

You still don't understand AnCap, do you?

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May 12, 2013, 04:52:16 PM
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You may find this amusing:
http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=6841
I LOL'd.

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May 12, 2013, 05:41:16 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.
in AnCap there would more violence because there is no force(police, government) trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.
Um... What?

You still don't understand AnCap, do you?

He has no desire to understand.  I posted a link to the .pdf for "The Machinery of Freedom", and he replied that he refused to read my capitalist propaganda.
Funny that, we've both no doubt read Marx and Mao; we have no problems reading socialist dogma, but the socialists won't read our material.  I think that's a telling fact.

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May 12, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.
in AnCap there would more violence because there is no force(police, government) trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.
Um... What?

You still don't understand AnCap, do you?
He has no desire to understand.  I posted a link to the .pdf for "The Machinery of Freedom", and he replied that he refused to read my capitalist propaganda.
Funny that, we've both no doubt read Marx and Mao; we have no problems reading socialist dogma, but the socialists won't read our material.  I think that's a telling fact.
Well, god forbid they read something that might actually change their mind!

Never read Mao, but I have read Marx, as well as Proudhon.

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May 12, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.
in AnCap there would more violence because there is no force(police, government) trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.
Um... What?

You still don't understand AnCap, do you?

He has no desire to understand.  I posted a link to the .pdf for "The Machinery of Freedom", and he replied that he refused to read my capitalist propaganda.
Funny that, we've both no doubt read Marx and Mao; we have no problems reading socialist dogma, but the socialists won't read our material.  I think that's a telling fact.
I have understood AnCap and the NAP. and i have found it to be less secure then statism.

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May 12, 2013, 06:14:53 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.
in AnCap there would more violence because there is no force(police, government) trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.
Um... What?

You still don't understand AnCap, do you?

He has no desire to understand.  I posted a link to the .pdf for "The Machinery of Freedom", and he replied that he refused to read my capitalist propaganda.
Funny that, we've both no doubt read Marx and Mao; we have no problems reading socialist dogma, but the socialists won't read our material.  I think that's a telling fact.
I have understood AnCap and the NAP.
Clearly you have not, since you said this:
in AnCap there would more violence because there is no force trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.

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May 12, 2013, 06:29:29 PM
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So, we've established that you are a liar, and have no issues with mugging folk, armed robbery and murder for profit.  No wonder you hate AnCap so much, you'd be dead in short order.
in AnCap there would more violence because there is no force(police, government) trying to make it more profitable to behave peacefully.
Um... What?

You still don't understand AnCap, do you?

He has no desire to understand.  I posted a link to the .pdf for "The Machinery of Freedom", and he replied that he refused to read my capitalist propaganda.
Funny that, we've both no doubt read Marx and Mao; we have no problems reading socialist dogma, but the socialists won't read our material.  I think that's a telling fact.
I have understood AnCap and the NAP. and i have found it to be less secure then statism.

You actually think that NAP would lead to more violence?  Under AnCap, you would be dead, so for folk like you, who lie, and are willing to kill or attack others for profit, yes, AnCap is less secure.

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May 12, 2013, 06:46:00 PM
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You actually think that NAP would lead to more violence?  Under AnCap, you would be dead, so for folk like you, who lie, and are willing to kill or attack others for profit, yes, AnCap is less secure.
eat or be eaten.

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May 12, 2013, 06:47:20 PM
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You actually think that NAP would lead to more violence?  Under AnCap, you would be dead, so for folk like you, who lie, and are willing to kill or attack others for profit, yes, AnCap is less secure.
eat or be eaten.
That's the law of the jungle, not of civilized society.

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