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May 13, 2013, 12:18:29 AM
Last edit: May 13, 2013, 01:41:00 AM by myrkul
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(hint: One's a threat, the other isn't.)
Yep, kind-of agree. The second guy gave himself away and got neutralised before things got out of hand.
You mean, he made a threat of force. Good. Glad that we agree. Say, want to play a game?

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May 13, 2013, 12:34:49 AM
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Not right now but i'll think about it.
If it's just libertarians in there, there'll be nothing but trade/trade all the way through. I need some people like you and kokjo to throw a little spice into the pot.

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May 13, 2013, 12:38:23 PM
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Not right now but i'll think about it.
If it's just libertarians in there, there'll be nothing but trade/trade all the way through. I need some people like you and kokjo to throw a little spice into the pot.

Nothing like a psychopath or 2 to make things interesting.

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May 13, 2013, 01:27:20 PM
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Not right now but i'll think about it.
If it's just libertarians in there, there'll be nothing but trade/trade all the way through. I need some people like you and kokjo to throw a little spice into the pot.

Nothing like a psychopath or 2 to make things interesting.
Yeah, that's the idea.  Grin

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May 14, 2013, 01:44:25 AM
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In after hitler.
Socialism is fractal. Naziism is macro, within a eurocentric framework.
Globalism is an extention of this macro scale. Statism is the object being measured.
The state itself is also fractal, the micropart being the mechanism of consent.
Kinda like metric divisibility once one identifies with a value.

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May 14, 2013, 04:06:38 AM
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In after hitler.
Socialism is fractal. Naziism is macro, within a eurocentric framework.
Globalism is an extention of this macro scale. Statism is the object being measured.
The state itself is also fractal, the micropart being the mechanism of consent.
Kinda like metric divisibility once one identifies with a value.

You're going to have to bring that down and talk to us on our level  Undecided
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May 14, 2013, 04:15:02 AM
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In after hitler.
Socialism is fractal. Naziism is macro, within a eurocentric framework.
Globalism is an extention of this macro scale. Statism is the object being measured.
The state itself is also fractal, the micropart being the mechanism of consent.
Kinda like metric divisibility once one identifies with a value.

You're going to have to bring that down and talk to us on our level  Undecided
My admittedly probably flawed understanding:
At every level, Statism is self-resembling. The State:the citizen::The Nation:The State::Globalism:The Nation

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May 14, 2013, 05:51:48 AM
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In after hitler.
Socialism is fractal. Naziism is macro, within a eurocentric framework.
Globalism is an extention of this macro scale. Statism is the object being measured.
The state itself is also fractal, the micropart being the mechanism of consent.
Kinda like metric divisibility once one identifies with a value.
no idea about what you are saying...

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May 14, 2013, 06:08:51 AM
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In after hitler.
Socialism is fractal. Naziism is macro, within a eurocentric framework.
Globalism is an extention of this macro scale. Statism is the object being measured.
The state itself is also fractal, the micropart being the mechanism of consent.
Kinda like metric divisibility once one identifies with a value.

You're going to have to bring that down and talk to us on our level  Undecided

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My admittedly probably flawed understanding:
At every level, Statism is self-resembling. The State:the citizen::The Nation:The State::Globalism:The Nation
Everything is sorta self resembling. Globalism with nationalistic subdivisions treats consent differently than a globalism where the nation's influence on a global scale is less powerful than guilds of freely organised individuals (concievably a non colonialist hypernation) does. We can have a globalist state, defined by military power and industrial complexes or a global nation based on mutual aid and technology.
As can be seen during wwi, borders define international conflict. These borders will be reconcieved i think. Military, legal, and police powers, and their inherent subversion of consent justified by those borders will need to be rethought too.

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May 14, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
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OK, rant about Americans here, right?

1. What happened to your math education?

2. What happened to "give me liberty or give me death"? Coz this forum is full of the "Government gonna find troubles with us, better not touch Bitcoin before they say yes" type weaklings.

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May 14, 2013, 04:19:06 PM
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OK, rant about Americans here, right?

1. What happened to your math education?

2. What happened to "give me liberty or give me death"? Coz this forum is full of the "Government gonna find troubles with us, better not touch Bitcoin before they say yes" weaklings.
Interestingly enough, your questions both have the same answer:


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May 17, 2013, 06:41:28 PM
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OK, rant about Americans here, right?

1. What happened to your math education?

2. What happened to "give me liberty or give me death"? Coz this forum is full of the "Government gonna find troubles with us, better not touch Bitcoin before they say yes" weaklings.
Interestingly enough, your questions both have the same answer:



Well said.

Have you heard of the Frankfurt School, Critical Theory, etc?

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May 17, 2013, 06:42:45 PM
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In after hitler.
Socialism is fractal. Naziism is macro, within a eurocentric framework.
Globalism is an extention of this macro scale. Statism is the object being measured.
The state itself is also fractal, the micropart being the mechanism of consent.
Kinda like metric divisibility once one identifies with a value.

You're going to have to bring that down and talk to us on our level  Undecided

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My admittedly probably flawed understanding:
At every level, Statism is self-resembling. The State:the citizen::The Nation:The State::Globalism:The Nation
Everything is sorta self resembling. Globalism with nationalistic subdivisions treats consent differently than a globalism where the nation's influence on a global scale is less powerful than guilds of freely organised individuals (concievably a non colonialist hypernation) does. We can have a globalist state, defined by military power and industrial complexes or a global nation based on mutual aid and technology.
As can be seen during wwi, borders define international conflict. These borders will be reconcieved i think. Military, legal, and police powers, and their inherent subversion of consent justified by those borders will need to be rethought too.

A fascinating concept, fractal distribution of power.

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May 17, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
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Have you heard of the Frankfurt School, Critical Theory, etc?
All those words are familiar. In that order, they are not. Wink Can you recommend a good book on it?

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May 17, 2013, 06:56:04 PM
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Have you heard of the Frankfurt School, Critical Theory, etc?
All those words are familiar. In that order, they are not. Wink Can you recommend a good book on it?

At the risk of sounding and looking like a "right-wing extremist", this is the best I can do for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

It's 13 minutes long.

Please keep in mind, I live in the worker's paradise known as Quebec, Canada, (complete with our language cops), so I may be biased.

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May 17, 2013, 07:16:45 PM
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At the risk of sounding and looking like a "right-wing extremist", this is the best I can do for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
...and you call me crazy? look at that dude at 9.30, if you ignore what he says, he sound just like one of those crazy priest dudes that expects "AMEN!!!", every time he stops.

This is brain washing, and you are a right-wing extremist.

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May 17, 2013, 07:18:48 PM
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At the risk of sounding and looking like a "right-wing extremist", this is the best I can do for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
...and you call me crazy? look at that dude at 9.30, if you ignore what he says, he sound just like one of those crazy priest dudes that expects "AMEN!!!", every time he stops.

This is brain washing, and you are a right-wing extremist.

Shouldn't you be out seeking a victim?  Much of what Whittle said is amenable to research.  Prove him wrong, without resorting to shaming attacks, if possible.

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May 17, 2013, 07:19:59 PM
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At the risk of sounding and looking like a "right-wing extremist", this is the best I can do for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
...and you call me crazy? look at that dude at 9.30, if you ignore what he says, he sound just like one of those crazy priest dudes that expects "AMEN!!!", every time he stops.

This is brain washing, and you are a right-wing extremist.

Shouldn't you be out seeking a victim?
Is that in my best interest?

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May 17, 2013, 07:22:56 PM
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At the risk of sounding and looking like a "right-wing extremist", this is the best I can do for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
...and you call me crazy? look at that dude at 9.30, if you ignore what he says, he sound just like one of those crazy priest dudes that expects "AMEN!!!", every time he stops.

This is brain washing, and you are a right-wing extremist.

Shouldn't you be out seeking a victim?
Is that in my best interest?

Depends if you get away with it, I guess.  Much of what Whittle said is amenable to research.  Prove him wrong, without resorting to shaming attacks, if possible.

Actually, I guess the onus is on me to prove him correct, but I ask you to research it all the same.

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May 17, 2013, 10:42:12 PM
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Yeah....

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