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February 01, 2017, 11:14:48 PM
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Nobody was freaking out when Obama issued travel bans or even drone strikes.
Plus, Obama during his both terms dropped over 100,000 bombs on people. Prior to that he received Peace Nobel Prize - right at the very beginning of his 1st term.
In my humble opinion, it was one of the worst choices for Nobel Price winner - right after Nobel Prize for European Union, which was arguably the worst choice ever.
I am beginning to think that Obama was liked because he was more of a mascot, first black president etc. His views was actually far more utopian than Trump's and his execution was terrible.
During his presidency USA became a pushover country and not the global leader like it used to be.


Seems like a lot of people liked it that way, doesn't it?
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February 02, 2017, 04:29:28 AM
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As far as I know one of the most advanced countries, now the it technology is India. Why American Russian? Better the Indians. Personally, I have nothing good from the Russian, do not wait. Harm from them not less than Muslims.

Indians are willing to work for long hours for a lower salary. That is the only advantage for an Indian tech worker, compared to his American counterpart. If you look at the quality, then no one can give the quality that an American or European tech worker offers.

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February 02, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
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make me LOL , I hope Trump will fall so human decay, from his facial expressions depict trumph carelessness in politics but clever in trade and economy, whether there will be a world war that has been awaited in some countries? RAW !
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February 02, 2017, 11:03:39 AM
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As far as I know one of the most advanced countries, now the it technology is India. Why American Russian? Better the Indians. Personally, I have nothing good from the Russian, do not wait. Harm from them not less than Muslims.

Indians are willing to work for long hours for a lower salary. That is the only advantage for an Indian tech worker, compared to his American counterpart. If you look at the quality, then no one can give the quality that an American or European tech worker offers.
Before that's what they said about the Chinese. Nevertheless, they now produce large quantities of good quality products. In science is an advantage on the side of the West, but it kompensiruet industrial espionage.
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February 02, 2017, 12:22:40 PM
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I don't think I remember them and ANYONE protesting when Obama did the same sort of travel ban with Iraqis for 120 days

I really am one to love the double standard that the republican party, and Donald Trump himself are held too.


This is a fact that remains to be true that the oligarchs controls the press and has the capacity to organize groups of people to protest against their hated enemy under the guise of just cause. This people who does protest doesnt really know who are pulling the strings on the rally's that they made. Obamas party cannot take in that they lost the election thats why they trying to highlight this travel ban and make it look like its the worst thing that happened.
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February 02, 2017, 12:39:13 PM
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I don't think I remember them and ANYONE protesting when Obama did the same sort of travel ban with Iraqis for 120 days

I really am one to love the double standard that the republican party, and Donald Trump himself are held too.


This is a fact that remains to be true that the oligarchs controls the press and has the capacity to organize groups of people to protest against their hated enemy under the guise of just cause. This people who does protest doesnt really know who are pulling the strings on the rally's that they made. Obamas party cannot take in that they lost the election thats why they trying to highlight this travel ban and make it look like its the worst thing that happened.
What does Obama? People are protesting against specific solutions to this old fool. Do you have eyes? Let's see what happens! Trump hung up during a conversation with the President of Australia. You think this is normal?

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February 02, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
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He shouldn't behave like ruthless tyrant...  Sad
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He shouldn't behave like ruthless tyrant...  Sad
But if he can't behave differently? I think that he is a tyrant, but not just a tyrant, and senile. I don't even know who is a bigger threat to the world Putin or Trump. I do not understand how Americans could choose such an idiot.
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February 02, 2017, 02:08:41 PM
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The funny thing is, it doesn't include the top 6 most populated Muslim nations, yet is being branded as a "Muslim" ban. Also, it is Obama's list, not Trumps. This is just more hyped up hysteria from the dying MSM.

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The funny thing is, it doesn't include the top 6 most populated Muslim nations, yet is being branded as a "Muslim" ban. Also, it is Obama's list, not Trumps. This is just more hyped up hysteria from the dying MSM.

That is true. And today the Islamic emirate of Kuwait introduced a similar entry ban, targeting a total of five countries including Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. As usual, the mainstream media completely ignored this story.

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February 02, 2017, 03:57:29 PM
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The funny thing is, it doesn't include the top 6 most populated Muslim nations, yet is being branded as a "Muslim" ban. Also, it is Obama's list, not Trumps. This is just more hyped up hysteria from the dying MSM.

That is true. And today the Islamic emirate of Kuwait introduced a similar entry ban, targeting a total of five countries including Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. As usual, the mainstream media completely ignored this story.
I believe that this is not an option. If you will not be allowed into the country of the Muslims, they will agitate Muslims who live in America and those who will arrive in a Muslim country. You need to fight by other methods.
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The funny thing is, it doesn't include the top 6 most populated Muslim nations, yet is being branded as a "Muslim" ban. Also, it is Obama's list, not Trumps. This is just more hyped up hysteria from the dying MSM.

That is true. And today the Islamic emirate of Kuwait introduced a similar entry ban, targeting a total of five countries including Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. As usual, the mainstream media completely ignored this story.

It's about politics, as usual Smiley
Trump had to show that he is strong leader and that he will do everything to protect his county and people.
In the same time, he had to be careful not to break ties with ''important'' Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Indonesia etc.
So, what he did?
He choose 7 weak Muslim countries, not important for him or America any way, and proclaim so called Muslim ''ban''.
Trump is real ''politician'' and will do everything, he can, to please his voters.
 

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As far as I know one of the most advanced countries, now the it technology is India. Why American Russian? Better the Indians. Personally, I have nothing good from the Russian, do not wait. Harm from them not less than Muslims.

Indians are willing to work for long hours for a lower salary. That is the only advantage for an Indian tech worker, compared to his American counterpart. If you look at the quality, then no one can give the quality that an American or European tech worker offers.
Before that's what they said about the Chinese. Nevertheless, they now produce large quantities of good quality products. In science is an advantage on the side of the West, but it kompensiruet industrial espionage.

There is no innovation in China. They just steal the technology from others, and make products using it at half the price. This is not going to be of any benefit in the long term. The well qualified Chinese are emigrating to Western nations such as the US and Germany.

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The funny thing is, it doesn't include the top 6 most populated Muslim nations, yet is being branded as a "Muslim" ban. Also, it is Obama's list, not Trumps. This is just more hyped up hysteria from the dying MSM.

That is true. And today the Islamic emirate of Kuwait introduced a similar entry ban, targeting a total of five countries including Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. As usual, the mainstream media completely ignored this story.

It's about politics, as usual Smiley
Trump had to show that he is strong leader and that he will do everything to protect his county and people.
In the same time, he had to be careful not to break ties with ''important'' Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Indonesia etc.
So, what he did?
He choose 7 weak Muslim countries, not important for him or America any way, and proclaim so called Muslim ''ban''.
Trump is real ''politician'' and will do everything, he can, to please his voters.
 
its not only the 7 weak muslim countries but its all muslims.as far i know visas are not given to muslims from quwait also no idea abt indonesia.
even muslim athletes who were to participate in competition in us were not given visa even though they didnt belong to a muslim country.
Feel pity for muslims they lost entry to the best country of world but might be few deserve it



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As far as I know one of the most advanced countries, now the it technology is India. Why American Russian? Better the Indians. Personally, I have nothing good from the Russian, do not wait. Harm from them not less than Muslims.

Indians are willing to work for long hours for a lower salary. That is the only advantage for an Indian tech worker, compared to his American counterpart. If you look at the quality, then no one can give the quality that an American or European tech worker offers.
Before that's what they said about the Chinese. Nevertheless, they now produce large quantities of good quality products. In science is an advantage on the side of the West, but it kompensiruet industrial espionage.

There is no innovation in China. They just steal the technology from others, and make products using it at half the price. This is not going to be of any benefit in the long term. The well qualified Chinese are emigrating to Western nations such as the US and Germany.
And where did leave the Chinese with brains, if Trump closes borders of America? Just in place of American companies in China will come to European investors. Where Americans will sell their products?
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its not only the 7 weak muslim countries but its all muslims.as far i know visas are not given to muslims from quwait also no idea abt indonesia.
even muslim athletes who were to participate in competition in us were not given visa even though they didnt belong to a muslim country.
Feel pity for muslims they lost entry to the best country of world but might be few deserve it

How about feel no pity for muslims, feel pity for victims of muslim terror?

It's come to this because muslims have ignored and denied the terrorists in their midst. 

This has gone one for how long? 

Since at least the savage killing of Israeli athletes at the Olympics in 1982.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Islam owns Islamic terror.

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And where did leave the Chinese with brains, if Trump closes borders of America? Just in place of American companies in China will come to European investors. Where Americans will sell their products?

Your question can be divided in to two parts.

Trump has no issue with qualified and skilled Chinese immigrants coming to the United States. He has only problem with those who break the law.

China is not a major export market for the American products.

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And today the Islamic emirate of Kuwait introduced a similar entry ban, targeting a total of five countries including Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. As usual, the mainstream media completely ignored this story.

It's still notable and newsworthy if you paint yourself in the guise of "leader of the free world" and then you are suddenly on par with Kuwait in terms of the freedom you're willing to permit in terms of freedom of movement.  And remember that even some American citizens have been caught out in this shitstorm too, so it's only "land of the free" if you have no ties to the Middle East (and I suspect China and Mexico are probably next).  Reactionary and draconian measures like these are obviously going to be more noticeable and cause more outrage if the nation in question likes to pretend they're still a modern and progressive society.  If that's not how the US wants to be seen anymore, then fair enough.  To all the Americans here, enjoy the slide into fascism, I guess, because I sincerely doubt it ends here.

If the US are going to lead by example, they're setting a horrible precedent for others to follow and I hope most countries ignore their new-found idiocy and retain some semblance of common sense, treating human beings as individuals on a case-by-case basis.  Not some blanket discriminatory ban based on the arbitrarily defined borders someone happened to be born in, as if that somehow defines who a person is, or what "threat" they supposedly represent.  If you presume guilt when no crime has been committed, you only increase resentment towards the US, so enjoy that too.  

Yeah, continually pissing off the rest of the world is a great way to prevent future terror attacks.   Roll Eyes
Let's create an environment of suspicion, accusations, discrimination and open hostility.  That just bound to calm tensions, right?   Roll Eyes

As for the media, if they're not covering governance and civics in the Gulf, it's because Westerners have proven time and time again that they don't give a shit about other human beings in the world.  So why would the media cover it if the public's insular and increasingly isolationist stance means they don't care and have little interest in reading about it?  

Would you honestly have cared about what Kuwait are doing in their own country if you weren't just mentioning it to score points in a debate?

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And where did leave the Chinese with brains, if Trump closes borders of America? Just in place of American companies in China will come to European investors. Where Americans will sell their products?

Your question can be divided in to two parts.

Trump has no issue with qualified and skilled Chinese immigrants coming to the United States. He has only problem with those who break the law.

China is not a major export market for the American products.
Not agree with you. Have you seen what's happening in the airports of America? There stopped the entry of all foreigners. They are not considered personal files of those who enters the country.
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And where did leave the Chinese with brains, if Trump closes borders of America? Just in place of American companies in China will come to European investors. Where Americans will sell their products?

Your question can be divided in to two parts.

Trump has no issue with qualified and skilled Chinese immigrants coming to the United States. He has only problem with those who break the law.

China is not a major export market for the American products.
Not agree with you. Have you seen what's happening in the airports of America? There stopped the entry of all foreigners. They are not considered personal files of those who enters the country.

Stop posting misinformation. They DIDN'T stopped ALL FOREIGNERS. They just stopped those who were banned from entering the United States. By the way, I have never seen any post from you condemning the travel ban imposed by the Islamic nations, for the citizens of Israel. Any particular reason?

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