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January 31, 2017, 07:54:31 AM |
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Hi guys!
We are a team of enthusiasts of crowfunding.
We believe that funding free from legacy institutions can bring a life to completely new products and services that will change the world to be a better place! But a lot of scam and low quality projects will waste the resources and discredit the ideas.
So we're conducting a research on how a typical crypto-asset investor usually find, analyze and use information on ICOs during all of its steps (pre-ICO, ICO, post-ICO stages). We're planning to revise our current development plan to reorder features releases. The most wanted functions and services will be released ASAP in our service to help investors rate ICOs efficiently.
All tasks could be grouped into some categories: 1. information retrieval (monitoring and participating: slack, tweets, forums, news sites, github activity, blockchain data collection etc) 2. information processing and analysis (automated text analysis, data mining etc) 3. reporting and alerting 4. portfolio management 5. social interactions and knowledge sharing
A lot of these tasks are done nowadays manually or with inefficient tools.
Some of topics to discuss: 1) what is the most painful or time-consuming tasks when analyzing an ICO? 2) what should be done by a human and what could be automated? 3) how to encourage experts to share knowledge or results of analysis? 4) how to divide an ICO analysis work among experts to speed up analysis of one ICO? 5) how to prevent a scam or conflict of interests from an expert? 6) should an expert earn by sharing its profitable portfolio with [paid] followers? and any other related topics.
If we find a strong demand we will start an ICO to be funded by early adopters which will receive service access tokens (probably a Waves Platform will be used to issue tokens).
We are welcome you to discuss what your need when dealing with ICOs!
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January 31, 2017, 09:34:27 AM |
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Hello, zidorov!
How are you planning to help investors exactly?
You mentioned the tasks you're trying to solve, but no particular instruments. What kind of service are we talking?
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January 31, 2017, 09:49:27 AM |
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The most time-consuming is the study of white papers, search for the final addresses if they are not specified in the document or on the website. The creators of ICO should be more open. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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zidorov (OP)
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January 31, 2017, 10:13:57 AM |
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How are you planning to help investors exactly? You mentioned the tasks you're trying to solve, but no particular instruments. What kind of service are we talking?
It will be a decision support service. Exact tools and instruments depend on ICO investors requirements. So this post is made to gather main problems and discuss on how to solve them. We don't want to constuct a service by using available tools (despite we have ML background), we want to construct it to meet investor's requirements.
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January 31, 2017, 10:58:07 AM |
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The creators of ICO don't always think about the fact that the token is supposed to bring us money. Investor don't have enough financial planned performance
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January 31, 2017, 11:09:53 AM |
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This is a nice idea but I don't really understand what you bring to the table that is different from what those ICO youtube channels do. I'm also sceptical of this because all the three post so far are all newbie accounts
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January 31, 2017, 11:22:37 AM |
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ico demand can down because
1 scam coin, ico selling without escrow 2 distribution coin is very long time 2 added to exchanger very long time
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January 31, 2017, 11:23:58 AM |
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This is a nice idea but I don't really understand what you bring to the table that is different from what those ICO youtube channels do. I'm also sceptical of this because all the three post so far are all newbie accounts
What ICO youtube channels are you talking about?
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January 31, 2017, 11:30:46 AM |
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I'm also sceptical of this because all the three post so far are all newbie accounts
and yes, I have a newbie account, because I'm newbie I don’t recommend you buy or sell Like a zidorov I just want to understand, how ICO investment can be effectively what exactly are you skeptical?
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January 31, 2017, 11:35:52 AM |
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There are some problem related ICO are like the founders say that they will build the structure of the company after the acquisition of financing. However, when it comes to the actual ICO, founders or promoters are left Bitcoins and Ether receive a portfolio they control and there is no legal entity that the buyer buys the tokens. I think must there are rules for developers of ICO.
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zidorov (OP)
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January 31, 2017, 12:50:48 PM |
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what you bring to the table that is different from what those ICO youtube channels do.
Thanks for reply! In this topic I just want to determine what should be brought to the table. I have some understanding but don't want to move a discussion to tools/product-oriented because it would be my bias. Videos at ICO youtube channels is a result of analysis but I'm trying to discuss how to streamline analysis of ICO. So an ICO analysis could be done faster and youtube video appears earlier. So let's talk about demand of people who is on the other side of a youtube channel.
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zidorov (OP)
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January 31, 2017, 05:05:35 PM Last edit: January 31, 2017, 08:36:23 PM by zidorov |
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I think must there are rules for developers of ICO.
I agree but we appreciate a decentralization benefits. So we can only have some best practice check-list. Some of checks can be automated and some is to be filled by experts according to their opinions. Best practices would be defined and become common only with maturing of the industry. So up to you what check-list positions are to be filled for an ICO? And which of them can be automated and which is not?
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January 31, 2017, 05:16:05 PM |
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All that ICO bullshit will collapse soon, We need founders to deliver products(or at least MVP),and not only marketing,like chronobank does
hahah chronobank,i dont even understand the concept and they have no product
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zidorov (OP)
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January 31, 2017, 08:47:58 PM |
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We need founders to deliver products(or at least MVP),and not only marketing
I agree but how it can be measured? I've already mentioned a github activity monitoring. What else can be used to monitor product development activities?
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January 31, 2017, 09:21:51 PM |
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The main problem is that ICOs are unregulated and most data can be easily manipulated.
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February 01, 2017, 12:19:05 AM |
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very interesting idea, nice
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February 01, 2017, 01:22:57 AM |
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What is the purpose of this? What are you trying to achieve/hoping to accomplish?
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February 01, 2017, 05:17:28 AM |
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All that ICO bullshit will collapse soon, We need founders to deliver products(or at least MVP),and not only marketing,like chronobank does
hahah chronobank,i dont even understand the concept and they have no product With big hype and little investors, the investors must pay 0.01 for every token in the ico phase and after the ico will end and they must receive their destiny like icobid's investor. Pay 1000 satoshi for every token and the current price is 50 satoshi. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 01, 2017, 05:54:19 AM |
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All that ICO bullshit will collapse soon, We need founders to deliver products(or at least MVP),and not only marketing,like chronobank does
hahah chronobank,i dont even understand the concept and they have no product With big hype and little investors, the investors must pay 0.01 for every token in the ico phase and after the ico will end and they must receive their destiny like icobid's investor. Pay 1000 satoshi for every token and the current price is 50 satoshi. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Sure. It is a disaster since every the prices are always lower than the prices they have to buy in the ICO. Well, maybe in the future, in a long term, ICObid may increase it prices and will be listed on some famous trading platform. ICO is a long term investment and we all have to be patient
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February 01, 2017, 12:36:19 PM |
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1.Total coins 2.Emission curve 3.Point of difference
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