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February 02, 2017, 11:02:52 AM |
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The aim of this poll is the have an idea about the users of this section OS preferences, as i am also a developer i would like to know if other devs have the same preferences as i. Please provide the reasons for your choice.
I voted for Ubuntu and Mac.
Ubuntu because it easy to use, frequently updated, stable, customisable, reliable OS, i can say that for me, it is the best OS i ever used wether in CLI or GUI. Mac because behinde every Mac, a Linux heart is beating, nothing more.
I don't vote for windows because it is buggy, trustless, ugly, virus/hacking compliant, you don't have any controle over it unless you are ready to spend hours fetching for controles, and, if they are not bugged.
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February 02, 2017, 11:27:57 AM |
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I certainly do prefer Linux over Ubuntu.
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February 02, 2017, 11:33:28 AM |
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The BSD family (OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc.) is missing from your list.
I prefer OpenBSD and Debian, I try to avoid Ubuntu and all Redhat based distros since Redhat decided to cripple openssl in them. Though the switch to systemd makes me enjoy more and more OpenBSD installations over Debian.
I've never used Mac and my last Windows WS was Win2000.
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nemgun (OP)
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February 02, 2017, 11:53:29 AM |
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The BSD family (OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc.) is missing from your list.
I prefer OpenBSD and Debian, I try to avoid Ubuntu and all Redhat based distros since Redhat decided to cripple openssl in them. Though the switch to systemd makes me enjoy more and more OpenBSD installations over Debian.
I've never used Mac and my last Windows WS was Win2000.
Thank you for pointing to the BSD family, i forgot to add it, i am also thinking about adding solaris, but i don't think that much people uses it. I never used OpenBSD, could you tell me what advantages it have over linux/debian ?
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psycodad
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February 02, 2017, 12:48:39 PM |
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The BSD family (OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc.) is missing from your list.
I prefer OpenBSD and Debian, I try to avoid Ubuntu and all Redhat based distros since Redhat decided to cripple openssl in them. Though the switch to systemd makes me enjoy more and more OpenBSD installations over Debian.
I've never used Mac and my last Windows WS was Win2000.
Thank you for pointing to the BSD family, i forgot to add it, i am also thinking about adding solaris, but i don't think that much people uses it. I never used OpenBSD, could you tell me what advantages it have over linux/debian ? OpenBSD comes with a secure-by-default setup and it is lightweight. Though, if you did not already setup linux at the time when you had to partition your disk yourself and configure your network manually you might find it very painful to get started with OpenBSD (but there is excellent guidance out there [ 1, 2] and the effort pays out if you want a highly secure and stable platform!). The setup/install has been simplified a lot since I started with version 2.6 sometimes 1999 but it is still not "insert disk and click OK three times to accept some defaults" On the plus side: - High quality man pages (Linux improved there in the last years, but so many man pages in Linux are still just useless and I have yet to find a bad one in OpenBSD).
- Most system components are audited and fixed by highly capable people in the OpenBSD team.
- Integrated firewall (pf) that I would argue is the best open source packet filter out there and compared to the huge mess that iptables ruleset are it is almost natural to read the rules.
- OpenBSD is the home of OpenSSH and comes with strong and robust crypto
- OpenBSD team is strictly commited to Open Source principles, they never accept borked license agreements, things that do not comply with their BSD license are kicked out.
- OpenBSD team boasts about "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!". This is impressing compared to every other OS.
Personally I'd recommend OpenBSD for servers or workstations that need that extra bit of security and confidence meaning you are ready to go an extra mile (or two, sometimes three ) to get the job done and you value security and stability over performance and bleeding edge features. But then you can lean back and just let it hum along. The OS might look ancient because it lacks a lot of features, but then again everything that's in OpenBSD has been done right from the beginning. I'd say OpenBSD is the most secure OS in the world. But like with the most secure car for example, you should not expect it to be the fastest or the most beautiful car. If you have an old pc or can launch a VM with 256MB RAM and 4G disk I'd recommend to give it a try. It's not just a different linux distro - it's BSD and it can be fun. HTH
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nemgun (OP)
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February 02, 2017, 12:56:48 PM |
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The BSD family (OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc.) is missing from your list.
I prefer OpenBSD and Debian, I try to avoid Ubuntu and all Redhat based distros since Redhat decided to cripple openssl in them. Though the switch to systemd makes me enjoy more and more OpenBSD installations over Debian.
I've never used Mac and my last Windows WS was Win2000.
Thank you for pointing to the BSD family, i forgot to add it, i am also thinking about adding solaris, but i don't think that much people uses it. I never used OpenBSD, could you tell me what advantages it have over linux/debian ? OpenBSD comes with a secure-by-default setup and it is lightweight. Though, if you did not already setup linux at the time when you had to partition your disk yourself and configure your network manually you might find it very painful to get started with OpenBSD (but there is excellent guidance out there [ 1, 2] and the effort pays out if you want a highly secure and stable platform!). The setup/install has been simplified a lot since I started with version 2.6 sometimes 1999 but it is still not "insert disk and click OK three times to accept some defaults" On the plus side: - High quality man pages (Linux improved there in the last years, but so many man pages in Linux are still just useless and I have yet to find a bad one in OpenBSD).
- Most system components are audited and fixed by highly capable people in the OpenBSD team.
- Integrated firewall (pf) that I would argue is the best open source packet filter out there and compared to the huge mess that iptables ruleset are it is almost natural to read the rules.
- OpenBSD is the home of OpenSSH and comes with strong and robust crypto
- OpenBSD team is strictly commited to Open Source principles, they never accept borked license agreements, things that do not comply with their BSD license are kicked out.
- OpenBSD team boasts about "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!". This is impressing compared to every other OS.
Personally I'd recommend OpenBSD for servers or workstations that need that extra bit of security and confidence meaning you are ready to go an extra mile (or two, sometimes three ) to get the job done and you value security and stability over performance and bleeding edge features. But then you can lean back and just let it hum along. The OS might look ancient because it lacks a lot of features, but then again everything that's in OpenBSD has been done right from the beginning. I'd say OpenBSD is the most secure OS in the world. But like with the most secure car for example, you should not expect it to be the fastest or the most beautiful car. If you have an old pc or can launch a VM with 256MB RAM and 4G disk I'd recommend to give it a try. It's not just a different linux distro - it's BSD and it can be fun. HTH Will definitly give it a try, you know, i am not impressed by appealing GUIs, i feel conftable in cli interfaces, so the appearances doesn't matter for me as long as i know where i am, and what i am doing. You are right regarding iptables, it is a big mess, tricky, hard to understand, i will have a look at pf. For sure you can't have ervery thing in one OS, devs can't create the perfect OS, you have to do some sacrifies to get benefitso n other parts of the system, the thing with ubuntu is that it is easy to use, easy to understand, can easily find solutions on internet, BSD looks like to be more professional then ubuntu, yet i i think it is more made for internet then compiling/coding.
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February 02, 2017, 04:47:25 PM |
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Will definitly give it a try, you know, i am not impressed by appealing GUIs, i feel conftable in cli interfaces, so the appearances doesn't matter for me as long as i know where i am, and what i am doing. You are right regarding iptables, it is a big mess, tricky, hard to understand, i will have a look at pf. For sure you can't have ervery thing in one OS, devs can't create the perfect OS, you have to do some sacrifies to get benefitso n other parts of the system, the thing with ubuntu is that it is easy to use, easy to understand, can easily find solutions on internet, BSD looks like to be more professional then ubuntu, yet i i think it is more made for internet then compiling/coding.
I haven't tried to build any coind under OpenBSD yet (but will try to soon), I expect it to be pretty hairy compared to building on an Ubuntu or Debian. Though I wouldn't say OpenBSD or BSD is not for developers or compiling/coding. For example building the complete OpenBSD (kernel and userland) from source is a very straightforward process. Hope your OpenBSD tryout will be as refreshing and surprising as it was for me back in 1999.
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February 03, 2017, 04:26:07 PM |
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I see you have Linux on there, but I think Tails should be added to that list. It has a built in Bitcoin wallet and it is the only OS I know of that support Bitcoin. We should support OS's that shows interest in supporting Bitcoin. It is much smaller than other OS's and a lot more anonymous. {Just make sure you download from a trusted source}
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nemgun (OP)
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February 03, 2017, 09:03:04 PM |
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I see you have Linux on there, but I think Tails should be added to that list. It has a built in Bitcoin wallet and it is the only OS I know of that support Bitcoin. We should support OS's that shows interest in supporting Bitcoin. It is much smaller than other OS's and a lot more anonymous. {Just make sure you download from a trusted source} Ok, i add it, could you please send a link about Tails ? i never heard about an OS who natively supports Bitcoin, i wonder what kind of features it offers.
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February 03, 2017, 09:11:21 PM |
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I only use Linux. Of the various distro options I like Ubuntu best. It has everything you need and not a speck more. Go buy a shitty old PC then install Ubuntu and you'll never go back.
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February 03, 2017, 09:16:10 PM |
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Linux and Windows, I quite like Windows to be honest, though I only run it as a second OS in my bootloader I certainly do prefer Linux over Ubuntu.
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February 03, 2017, 09:29:22 PM |
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For safety and servers (Including wallet) I prefer Linux, generally the Debian Flavour For everything else: Windows, the DirectX is quite necessary to enjoy some of the newer games, althrough its not the safest OS nor is it open source it still does the job and is supported by a lot more tools.
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February 03, 2017, 11:29:00 PM |
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Of course Linux
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February 04, 2017, 04:40:30 PM |
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Slackware! if you know Slackware then there is no reason why i should have to explain why it is the best! if you dont know it please use ubuntu
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February 04, 2017, 04:51:17 PM |
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Which family is opensuse? Slackware! if you know Slackware then there is no reason why i should have to explain why it is the best! if you dont know it please use ubuntu Tried it before its repositories aren't working well really. I don't know how these guys are so fanatic to such derivative but I like Fedora the first time I've tried it when it was yet fedora 11, Leonidas. I started experimenting with some other RPMs.
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February 04, 2017, 05:05:06 PM |
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Which family is opensuse? Slackware! if you know Slackware then there is no reason why i should have to explain why it is the best! if you dont know it please use ubuntu Tried it before its repositories aren't working well really. I don't know how these guys are so fanatic to such derivative but I like Fedora the first time I've tried it when it was yet fedora 11, Leonidas. I started experimenting with some other RPMs. one of the first fun distros i played with by choice was SCO obviously if something doesnt work then the reply is certainly use a degenerate distro like debian or ubuntu or fedora ect. the reason why there are so many different distros out there is because its the same level of UNIX IQ Slackware is the grand daddy while the usual distros most use is "because they are to dumb to use slackware" try a copy and paste of the quoted section in google! hahahahahahaha
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February 04, 2017, 05:05:35 PM |
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its not listed on top though but i prefer to use the lightweight linux distro. i'm also not a fan of CLI but yes i like downloading files on torrent that is why i use distros where "transmission" is installed by default. i like the Slacko pup derivative, its a very tiny distro which is less than 200mb. it can even run on RAM only.
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February 04, 2017, 05:07:07 PM |
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Windows 7 with all the spying options and updates disabled and Linux
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February 05, 2017, 02:57:27 AM |
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Ubuntu/Debian for now, due to the large number of packages in its repository compared to other linux distros. I might need to get a mac to compile ios app...
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February 05, 2017, 03:46:42 AM |
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fa favorite os is linux debian and windows 10, linux for web surfing and windows just for working, not all programs runs in linux
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