[FS] knc titans a lot of stuff

[jelin1984]

 

for sell at europe
price without shipping
and is lowest
accept lowest than that will be deleted

 

4 titan cubes full working
1 titan cube half speed working
3 titan controllers

price 3.8 btc

[jacobmayes94]

You have offered these to me, you will not get more than 1, maybe 1.5 BTC for them. Next LTC diff jump is 104k. The days of getting rich ship selling titans has sailed although you might get lucky selling it on eBay. I got 2.5 BTC worth for my own titan but I sold it before the diff jump and the Bitmain hardware was announced. Now the diff is ever climbing, you will not ROI paying 1 BTC, let alone 3 unless your power is free.

My offer of 1 BTC for this titan will stand, based on financial risk.

[jelin1984]

sent me link of price of bitmain tech to see the price.
you will see that my offer is not cost only 1 btc

[jacobmayes94]

https://asicminermarket.com/product/l3-litecoin-miner-250mhs-400watt/

Your titan is 400? MH/s @ 1300w @ the wall.

This is 250 MH/s, 150 MH/s less.

With the 250 MH/s L3, this is your profit at 10c /kWh: 119.15 USD / month

https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=250&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=400&energycost=0.10


With 400 MH/s, 1300w @ the wall:143.12 USD / Month profit (At current diff).

At your cost, around £2500, it would take 25 months to ROI provided diff remained the same, which it isn't as new hardware is coming on the network pushing it up. So an already 3 year old miner would need more than another two years to ROI if diff remained the same.

The monthly profit of the bitmain is lower, but the price is also £800 GBP lower roughly, and as it is new hardware with a warranty your chance of hitting ROI are better.


You are asking 3.8 BTC. for 4 BTC i can get TWO bitmain units, which would at 500 MH/s at 800w at the wall at 10c / kWh would give me: 238.29 USD a month profit, just under $100 more a month than your titan, new with a warranty from Bitmain.

https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=500&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=800&energycost=0.10


Titans used to go for insane prices due to the profit and I made boatloads of profit from my titans and sold them all off just before Bitmain announced it, but even then i got £2000 for one, £1750 for another which was a fair price. Now though, you will not sell one for 1.5 BTC, let alone 4 due to the diff increases.

My 1 - 1.5 BTC offer for one of these will stand if you wish to take it, i understand if you don't if you have already ROIed if i were you keep it plugged in and mining as you may make more in the long run.


So we have a comparision:

1. Your titan - 3.8 BTC + Shipping + Customs duty to UK would total 4 BTC probably for me. 4 BTC ($4000, $143 a month profit at 10c kWh so a 30 month ROI if diff remains the same (it wont))
https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=400&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=1300&energycost=0.10


2. 1 Bitmain L3 -  1.94 BTC + Shipping + Customs duty to UK, totals 2.1 BTC for me. ($2100, 119 USD/month profit, 21 month ROI at 10c kWh if diff remains the same (it wont) )
https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=250&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=400&energycost=0.10

3. 2 Bitmain L3 - 3.88 btc + shipping + customs duty, around 4.1 BTC. ($4100, $238 / month profit at 10c kWh, if diff remains the same)
https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=500&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=800&energycost=0.10

Note options 2 and 3 have a warranty, splits it across two rigs (if a KNC titan has a ground fault, all cubes die, if controller dies, your stuffed and many want insane prices for controllers they can't sell)

Due to the risk in purchasing it (diff will probably double by the end of this year, meaning ROI would be 3+ years on this rig, i would have my offer stand at 1 - 1.5 BTC. I am not lowballing but being realistic about my investments.

If you wish to get more, try listing it on ebay, although most buying on there without free electric won't roi, prices are insane plus you have the eBay fees (10% of your sale price).

I hope this helps, im not being an ass but just doing hard math, i like to consider any offer I make as fair, and thus this is my justification for my offer It is up to you to accept or decline as you see fit as it is your miner. I recommend if you want more though any would wish to not take my offer, then plug it in and mine if your power is cheap enough you will get more if you are willing to wait.

Sorry if the above sounds a bit crappy, i do hope that you didn't pay through the nose for it and havn't yet ROIed because my condolences if you have...

[KNCFUN]

jacobmayes94 the price of a titan set is still $3500 because it's a home miner and it is made in Europe.
You are comparing the Ferrari of the miners with the Fiat (chinese garbage)
Where are you gonna put the A4 or L3 miner ? All of them they have the Delta fans and they make too much noise !!! airplane take off !!!
Home miners are going with Titan, Farm miners are going with chinese crap unstable miners ....
Don't try to buy the miner for free have some respect !!

Also the guy is located in Europe what are you talking about ' Customs duty to UK' ? There is no tax !
Have some respect ! pay the normal price  and let your little tricks! will you like to be in his position ?
 

[psycodad]

jacobmayes94 the price of a titan set is still $3500 because it's a home miner and it is made in Europe.
You are comparing the Ferrari of the miners with the Fiat (chinese garbage)

For what you sell your Titans is your business no need to justify your price, but honestly I couldn't stop rolling on the floor laughing when I read about "made in Europe and Chinese garbage" - seriously, I mean really?
The Titan is certainly a nice miner for the time when it came out, but it is lousy designed and poorly build from controller to cube to spell it politely. Designed by swedish ignorants that think they are not bound to Ohms law.

Oh wait, you named it already: European quality. Reminds me of the fire extinguisher "made in Britain" in the TV series IT crowd.

Good luck with your sale anyway, just sell it at good price but stop claiming everything else is garbage.

恭喜发财!

[KNCFUN]

Ask Trump if he likes Chinese products and you will get the same answer.
Made in Sweden is better than Made in China, that's the reality.

[kurbeks]

It's a good price. Might buy if i had more BTC   Anyone who mines LTC is just dumb.

[jacobmayes94]

The titan had serious electronics flaws, including ground faults, if the ground on a connector lifts, it tries to find ground through all the 5 pin connectors across all dies and cubes, causing failure. There was lack of power regulation etc. No heatsinks on the DC-DC converters, trying to pull up to 300W through 1 PCI-E slot.  The L3 is more homely due to lower power usage, especially on a 120 volt supply. A kid science project could have done it better...

The proof is in the pudding that they were very unreliable, although gentarkins mod helped. Don't get me wrong i got good profit from titans, but their ship has sailed, their race is run unless power is free.

I did my math, if you sell it at that price then good on you tbf, i do not see a problem with that But i gave my justifications as to my 'low' offer, as i am not being a knob, just realistic with figures.

[KNCFUN]

What are you talking about ? Titan are super stable and without any problem if you don't overclock them.
They are made for Home users and they are quiet ! You can use them as a heating solution in the winter.. that means free heat and getting payed
The chinese L3 and A4 that are super noisy where will you put them ? tell me where ? your wife will kick you out the same day
It's more for farms that they don't care so much for stable systems and noise.
If you bought Titan back in time and you have it till now you made a fortune !!

[psycodad]

The chinese L3 and A4 that are super noisy where will you put them ? tell me where ? your wife will kick you out the same day

Alternative facts?
People that actually have a L3 say something different:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1734098.msg17561765#msg17561765

And with 5-10$ you can make an A2 or A4 as silent as a purring cat. You need a soldering iron though, but when you run a Titan you probably already have one.

[KNCFUN]

I want to see these people that were complaining about the price what they will say now ?
LTC PRICE IS $10

[KNCFUN]

It's a good price. Might buy if i had more BTC   Anyone who mines LTC is just dumb.

Say it again ? Anyone who mines LTC is just dumb ? why ?
Now you will see the big profit !

[IOTUSA]

https://asicminermarket.com/product/l3-litecoin-miner-250mhs-400watt/

Your titan is 400? MH/s @ 1300w @ the wall.

This is 250 MH/s, 150 MH/s less.

With the 250 MH/s L3, this is your profit at 10c /kWh: 119.15 USD / month

https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=250&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=400&energycost=0.10


With 400 MH/s, 1300w @ the wall:143.12 USD / Month profit (At current diff).

At your cost, around £2500, it would take 25 months to ROI provided diff remained the same, which it isn't as new hardware is coming on the network pushing it up. So an already 3 year old miner would need more than another two years to ROI if diff remained the same.

The monthly profit of the bitmain is lower, but the price is also £800 GBP lower roughly, and as it is new hardware with a warranty your chance of hitting ROI are better.


You are asking 3.8 BTC. for 4 BTC i can get TWO bitmain units, which would at 500 MH/s at 800w at the wall at 10c / kWh would give me: 238.29 USD a month profit, just under $100 more a month than your titan, new with a warranty from Bitmain.

https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=500&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=800&energycost=0.10


Titans used to go for insane prices due to the profit and I made boatloads of profit from my titans and sold them all off just before Bitmain announced it, but even then i got £2000 for one, £1750 for another which was a fair price. Now though, you will not sell one for 1.5 BTC, let alone 4 due to the diff increases.

My 1 - 1.5 BTC offer for one of these will stand if you wish to take it, i understand if you don't if you have already ROIed if i were you keep it plugged in and mining as you may make more in the long run.


So we have a comparision:

1. Your titan - 3.8 BTC + Shipping + Customs duty to UK would total 4 BTC probably for me. 4 BTC ($4000, $143 a month profit at 10c kWh so a 30 month ROI if diff remains the same (it wont))
https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=400&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=1300&energycost=0.10


2. 1 Bitmain L3 -  1.94 BTC + Shipping + Customs duty to UK, totals 2.1 BTC for me. ($2100, 119 USD/month profit, 21 month ROI at 10c kWh if diff remains the same (it wont) )
https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=250&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=400&energycost=0.10

3. 2 Bitmain L3 - 3.88 btc + shipping + customs duty, around 4.1 BTC. ($4100, $238 / month profit at 10c kWh, if diff remains the same)
https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc?hashrate=500&speedunit=MH%2Fs&difficulty=102398.53515485&price=3.8996&currency=USD&power=800&energycost=0.10

Note options 2 and 3 have a warranty, splits it across two rigs (if a KNC titan has a ground fault, all cubes die, if controller dies, your stuffed and many want insane prices for controllers they can't sell)

Due to the risk in purchasing it (diff will probably double by the end of this year, meaning ROI would be 3+ years on this rig, i would have my offer stand at 1 - 1.5 BTC. I am not lowballing but being realistic about my investments.

If you wish to get more, try listing it on ebay, although most buying on there without free electric won't roi, prices are insane plus you have the eBay fees (10% of your sale price).

I hope this helps, im not being an ass but just doing hard math, i like to consider any offer I make as fair, and thus this is my justification for my offer It is up to you to accept or decline as you see fit as it is your miner. I recommend if you want more though any would wish to not take my offer, then plug it in and mine if your power is cheap enough you will get more if you are willing to wait.

Sorry if the above sounds a bit crappy, i do hope that you didn't pay through the nose for it and havn't yet ROIed because my condolences if you have...

Who cares about what other asic sell for when they aren't available? And even if they are, who cares? 100% pointless to point out something everyone knows. If you think they are overpriced. Don't buy them.

[vm1990]

Honestly the price isnt that bad maybe a touch high for here but considering how hard it is to get any sort of mining gear in Europe its not that bad, seller will probably get 3BTC - 3.5BTC KNC miners arent bad miners like anything you run 23/7 you have to check them over ever so often theres no such thing as leave and forget with electronics. sadly im in the UK so its simply not worth mining even a S9 wont earn a profit for long here electric is expensive as f**k £0.15 per kw/h and thats a pretty cheap rate for the UK