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February 02, 2017, 06:12:11 PM
Last edit: February 02, 2017, 07:09:05 PM by krile
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This ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.0

Reasons: not working source code. Wallet can not be compiled. OP owner deleting posts instead of answering questions surrounding this.

And proof below, my posts that were deleted.

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Since the other topic is locked for some reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.0

...i am posting here.

Just a warning to everyone.

The source code of this coin is a mess, it can not be compiled normally: https://github.com/vcoin-z/virtualcoin/

The whole thing smells fishy... proceed with caution.


what do you mean he wants to try to fool or just a problematic source code only.

First of all it is strange that the main ANN topic is locked.

Second of all, the source is just wierd. It has an old genesis block and there are thousands of errors at compilation.

Third thing that is strange is that the github link was really hard to find... It was not posted in the ann, it was only posted in the tweet. And this source is old. Its like he or she posted it just to make it look good, thinking nobody would actually go test it and just use the compiled windows wallet on megaupload.

So yeah, I think its a scam of some sort. There might be malicious code in the windows wallet...honestly I don't know and I don't care that much.

Just wanted to give out a warning, that this is a strange launch of a coin and people should be careful.

Edit: I mean, the coin is launched and the OP says source and wallets coming soon. Who does that really? Smiley

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February 02, 2017, 06:38:00 PM
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This ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.0

Reasons: shitty source code
How having a shitty source code makes a coin scam ? There are more coins in the altcoin section which haven't released their source code publicly.You're just mad about the fact your posts were deleted.Take a chill pill.

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February 02, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
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This ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.0

Reasons: shitty source code
How having a shitty source code makes a coin scam ? There are more coins in the altcoin section which haven't released their source code publicly.You're just mad about the fact your posts were deleted.Take a chill pill.

Let me correct that statement: Not working source code.

The qt wallet or daemon can not be compiled.

Code:
make -f makefile.unix
g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/home/krile/src/virtualcoin/src -I/home/krile/src/virtualcoin/src/obj -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/krile/src/virtualcoin/src/leveldb/include -I/home/krile/src/virtualcoin/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/alert.d -o obj/alert.o alert.cpp
In file included from version.h:7:0,
                 from serialize.h:23,
                 from netbase.h:10,
                 from util.h:30,
                 from alert.h:13,
                 from alert.cpp:11:
clientversion.h:11:0: warning: "CLIENT_VERSION_MINOR" redefined [enabled by default]
 #define CLIENT_VERSION_MINOR       13
 ^
clientversion.h:10:0: note: this is the location of the previous definition
 #define CLIENT_VERSION_MINOR       14
 ^
In file included from net.h:20:0,
                 from alert.cpp:13:
protocol.h:25:16: error: too many decimal points in number
 >>>>>>> origin/9.2.0
                ^
protocol.h: In function ‘short unsigned int GetDefaultPort(bool)’:
protocol.h:21:1: error: expected primary-expression before ‘<<’ token
 <<<<<<< HEAD
 ^
protocol.h:21:3: error: expected primary-expression before ‘<<’ token
 <<<<<<< HEAD
   ^
protocol.h:21:5: error: expected primary-expression before ‘<<’ token
 <<<<<<< HEAD
     ^
protocol.h:21:7: error: expected primary-expression before ‘<’ token
 <<<<<<< HEAD
       ^
protocol.h:21:9: error: ‘HEAD’ was not declared in this scope
 <<<<<<< HEAD
         ^
protocol.h:22:5: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘return’
     return testnet ? 80 : 443;
     ^
protocol.h:23:1: error: expected primary-expression before ‘==’ token
 =======
 ^
protocol.h:23:3: error: expected primary-expression before ‘==’ token
 =======
   ^
protocol.h:23:5: error: expected primary-expression before ‘==’ token
 =======
     ^
protocol.h:23:7: error: expected primary-expression before ‘=’ token
 =======
       ^
protocol.h:24:5: error: expected primary-expression before ‘return’
     return testnet ? 443 : 80;
     ^
protocol.h:24:5: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘return’
protocol.h:25:1: error: expected primary-expression before ‘>>’ token
 >>>>>>> origin/9.2.0
 ^
protocol.h:25:3: error: expected primary-expression before ‘>>’ token
 >>>>>>> origin/9.2.0
   ^
protocol.h:25:5: error: expected primary-expression before ‘>>’ token
 >>>>>>> origin/9.2.0
     ^
protocol.h:25:7: error: expected primary-expression before ‘>’ token
 >>>>>>> origin/9.2.0
       ^
protocol.h:25:9: error: ‘origin’ was not declared in this scope
 >>>>>>> origin/9.2.0
         ^
protocol.h:26:1: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘}’ token
 }
 ^
protocol.h:26:1: warning: no return statement in function returning non-void [-Wreturn-type]
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1

Edit: I rephrased the claim in the first post.

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February 02, 2017, 07:35:06 PM
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This ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.0

Reasons: not working source code. Wallet can not be compiled. OP owner deleting posts instead of answering questions surrounding this.

And proof below, my posts that were deleted.

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Since the other topic is locked for some reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.0

...i am posting here.

Just a warning to everyone.

The source code of this coin is a mess, it can not be compiled normally: https://github.com/vcoin-z/virtualcoin/

The whole thing smells fishy... proceed with caution.


what do you mean he wants to try to fool or just a problematic source code only.

First of all it is strange that the main ANN topic is locked.

Second of all, the source is just wierd. It has an old genesis block and there are thousands of errors at compilation.

Third thing that is strange is that the github link was really hard to find... It was not posted in the ann, it was only posted in the tweet. And this source is old. Its like he or she posted it just to make it look good, thinking nobody would actually go test it and just use the compiled windows wallet on megaupload.

So yeah, I think its a scam of some sort. There might be malicious code in the windows wallet...honestly I don't know and I don't care that much.

Just wanted to give out a warning, that this is a strange launch of a coin and people should be careful.

Edit: I mean, the coin is launched and the OP says source and wallets coming soon. Who does that really? Smiley

POS (Piece of SH..) like u are no good.  If you don't like the coin, stop shittttting in your pants & start ur own coin. May be Dev is the biggest scammer, malware/virus creator in the world. Guess what we all support him since 2014.
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February 02, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
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POS (Piece of SH..) like u are no good.  If you don't like the coin, stop shittttting in your pants & start ur own coin. May be Dev is the biggest scammer, malware/virus creator in the world. Guess what we all support him since 2014.
Well, I consider censoring and not providing working source code POS (like you defined it).

I wanted to try out the wallet (on linux, not some precompiled windows megaupload/googledrive (crap)) and all I got was deleted messages. That usually does not mean the best intentions, that is why I opened this thread.

And btw, I did start my own coin, and I don't delete peoples messages and ignore technical questions. Oh and yeah, the source code actually compiles the wallet...

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February 05, 2017, 02:03:51 AM
Last edit: February 05, 2017, 03:31:41 AM by bumbacoin
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the code has been *mostly* fixed now.
here's an amusing discussion i had with someone about how to compile it before it was fixed.
https://github.com/vcoin-z/virtualcoin/issues/3

still has a slight problem with a non compilable leveldb, so you need to copy that from another coin.

but while we're talking about scams Cheesy
block 11 has a reward of 387,420,489 coins

the code is deliberately confusing.

int64 static GetBlockValue(int nBits, int Vcoinh, int64 nFees)
{
    double dDiff =
        (double)0x0000ffff / (double)(nBits & 0x00ffffff);

    /* fixed bug caused diff to not be correctly calculated */
    if(Vcoinh > 100 || fTestNet) dDiff = ConvertBitsToDouble(nBits);
 
    int64 Vcoinr = 50;
    if(Vcoinh >= 1 && Vcoinh < 1000) {
        if((Vcoinh >= 101 && dDiff > 75) || Vcoinh >= 1000) {
 
            // 222000/(((x+2600)/9)^2)
//            Vcoinr = (222000.0 / (pow((dDiff+2600.0)/9.0,2.0)));
         Vcoinr = dDiff * .4356;
            if (Vcoinr == 25) Vcoinr = (1 + 250.00) - (Vcoinh / 4);
            if (Vcoinr == 5) Vcoinr =  250.00 - (Vcoinh / 4);
        }
      else {
         Vcoinr = dDiff * .4426;
//            Vcoinr = (1112.0 / (pow((dDiff+51.0)/6.0,2.0)));
            if (Vcoinr == 500) Vcoinr = (5 + 250.00) - (Vcoinh / 4);
            if (Vcoinr == 25) Vcoinr =  250.00 - (Vcoinh / 4);
         if (Vcoinh > 10 && Vcoinh < 12) Vcoinr = pow (pzx,pzy);
         }
     } else {
         Vcoinr = dDiff * .4826;
//        Vcoinr = (1111.0 / (pow((dDiff+1.0),2.0)));
//        if (Vcoinr > 500) Vcoinr = 250.00 - (Vcoinh / 4);
//        if (Vcoinr < 1) Vcoinr = 250.00 - (Vcoinh / 4);
//            Vcoinr = 1;
    }

see this thread of mine.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1751957.0


amusingly enough this has been an ongoing trick for a couple of re launches of the same coin a few times (all the way back to 2014 i think - which explains the old genesis block)
they re-released with version 13.0.8 about a month ago with a slightly smaller "hidden premine" of 170million (which also featured in earlier version of coin)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557946.msg17500615#msg17500615

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so far dev has been locking the old and making new threads, completely ignoring it and now also deleting posts
with situations like this, you can play spot the sockpuppet Smiley




this is the last time I am telling u get the fuck of my coin. Shiit like u are not welcome here. Go to ur BS Coin.

No one cares ur twitter or BS threads. u seems very desperate. U must have done something that caused ur own coin to tank, did u cheated them & disappear with their BTC.

Stay fucking off our coin. You are not welcome anymore.

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February 06, 2017, 03:35:18 AM
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posts are getting deleted.
meanwhile old coin olders are apparently going to get a taste of that 387 million coin premine by perhaps getting a few thousand ..


question guys, did any longer virtual coin supporters from the original fork get their coins on this new fork yet?


1st It's a relaunch, not forked.

2nd,Do you even know how crypto currency works? coins can only be distributed after they mature.

3rd. Coin will be given out based to old users which was clearly stated by Dev
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.msg17647085#msg17647085

Original/old VirtualCoin supporters also get coins under this offer: (till Jan 23rd, 2017)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756007.msg17578695#msg17578695
For every tweet you get 100 VC upto your old balance + 250 VC for signature. (only original VirtualCoin supporters)

4th, All new & older supporters get additional coins under Signature & twitter bounty (up to Feb 3rd, 2017 Launch)

What have you done for VirtualCoin so far? Based on which offer or offers you participated you will get your coins. I am originally supporter for virtual coin since 2014, I will be getting coins based on these offers that I participated.

and of course you still get coins based on mining? even then you still have to wait for your mined coins to mature. This applies to all, even Dev.



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here's a post from 2014 asking about the pre-mine,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516183.msg5714562#msg5714562
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SCAM COIN! STAY AWAY.
When people ask about how much premine is on well, then the coin creator deletes the question.
GREAT way to wait for launch without having to answer that question


What do  you have to say to your defense? Or are you going to delete this one too?


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No info on premine? Hey come on, tons of people have asked already and you avoid answering.

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Quote from: bobitza202 on February 10, 2017, 09:19:49 PM
Thanks Grin.By the way, i saw what seems to be the blockchain explorer, around this thread, i don't know exactly where, but it looks like my address transaction is there

http://XX.XX.XX.XX:3001/

Will we be able to see the payments from mining there?


Quote from: v.coinz on February 10, 2017, 09:32:44 PM

That is invalid. Best way to check your payment is leave your wallet sync with the network & confirm if you got your payment.


In regards to mining, if you do solo mine, check your wallet or allow sometime if using pool http://theminingpool.thruhere.net/



..
any posts linking to the explorer are being deleted,
and thread is locked again .
seems like dev does not like it Sad

http://84.200.210.130:3001/richlist


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heh and dev puppets are posting in our thread Cheesy


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BUMBACOIN IS A SCAMMER (Proof above)


Thanks for sharing the proof of Bumbacoin the cheater.
To Hide, he disable explorer: http://blockchain.bumbacoin.com


BUMBACOIN = SCAMMER
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why doesnt the real VC dev come and visit ?
instead only their sock puppets come and attack us Sad


one would think that a legit coin dev would be happy to explain themselves instead of continuing a multiple year hiding of their premine ??




never forget the secret VC premine on the un-official explorer
http://84.200.210.130:3001/richlist


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BUMBACOIN IS A SCAMMER (Proof above)


Thanks for sharing the proof of Bumbacoin the cheater.
To Hide, he disable explorer: http://blockchain.bumbacoin.com


BUMBACOIN = SCAMMER
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why doesnt the real VC dev come and visit ?
instead only their sock puppets come and attack us Sad


one would think that a legit coin dev would be happy to explain themselves instead of continuing a multiple year hiding of their premine ??




never forget the secret VC premine on the un-official explorer
http://84.200.210.130:3001/richlist



still only getting the sockpuppets here Sad

so sad

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VC is scam..that's right. I'm old investor in VC..have small VC , and what the DEV do now..??he change chain..he try to scam again.!
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February 13, 2017, 01:45:13 AM
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please dont selete this post

i want an answer about this

http://84.200.210.130:3001/richlist

why 1 wallet already have 387,000,000 virtual coins

i am hard to mining this coins but already stock 387M virtual coins in 1 person

That is their for few reasons...
. Bounty
. Development
. Rewards
. Any time money is taken out from that account it is posted here with details.

Anytime bounty is paid for the VirtualCoin team efforts including myself it will be disclosed.
Once we meet our bounty list as mentioned all the remaining coins will be destroyed. Even if we do not meet all the bounties by the end of 6 months. Coins will be destroyed as well.

These coins will help us to remain in Top 5 once Marketcapital is calculated.

No these coins are not for sale or IPO, but for funding VirtualCoin development.

Hope this help.
Their will be and is full disclosure each time withdraw is made to whom & what purpose.


good to see, dev finally actually has admitted the pre=mine exists,
after numerous posts deleted, and years of ongoing ignoring.

for some reason.
all previous questions regarding the premine were considered as spam and fud,
and my questions elicited an attack from a couple of obvious dev sockpuppets.

still the problem exists that there is no official mention of it in the OP.
looking forward to total transparency.


heh.
of course my question still is why is the premine so confusingly created in teh code?

lol definite reward for the most unclear code ever !!
Code:
    int64 Vcoinr = 50; 
    if(Vcoinh >= 1 && Vcoinh < 1000) {
        if((Vcoinh >= 101 && dDiff > 75) || Vcoinh >= 1000) {
 
            // 222000/(((x+2600)/9)^2)
//            Vcoinr = (222000.0 / (pow((dDiff+2600.0)/9.0,2.0)));
Vcoinr = dDiff * .4356;
            if (Vcoinr == 25) Vcoinr = (1 + 250.00) - (Vcoinh / 4);
            if (Vcoinr == 5) Vcoinr =  250.00 - (Vcoinh / 4);
        }
else {
Vcoinr = dDiff * .4426;
//            Vcoinr = (1112.0 / (pow((dDiff+51.0)/6.0,2.0)));
            if (Vcoinr == 500) Vcoinr = (5 + 250.00) - (Vcoinh / 4);
            if (Vcoinr == 25) Vcoinr =  250.00 - (Vcoinh / 4);
if (Vcoinh > 10 && Vcoinh < 12) Vcoinr = pow (pzx,pzy);
}

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