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February 07, 2017, 10:36:33 AM
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4 cane strokes in his buttock.

Why so small? such a light punishment

Even if it was just one stroke, it will deter people from committing similar crimes in the future. It may be over in 2 minutes, but the severity of the punishment is enough to create a fear in the mind of the criminals.
Public strokes are not as much about inflicting fear, as it is not that hardcore to get hit in your bottom 4 times.
They seem more like a tool to disgrace a person, shatter his dignity and undermine the authority of his position.
I bet that Saudi diplomat will remember that episode for the rest of his life very vividly.
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February 07, 2017, 10:57:29 AM
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The idiot Saudi thought that Singapore was like the United States and India, where rich Saudis could rape whomever they want. He was proven wrong, and was sentenced to 26 months imprisonment plus 4 cane strokes in his buttock.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/saudi-diplomat-gets-26-months-and-one-week-in-jail-4-strokes-of-the-cane-for

For the previous incidents in India and the US, check these links:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/saudi-diplomat-friends-rape-gangrape-nepali-mother-daughter-the-complete-story/1/469406.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3248499/Saudi-prince-arrested-sex-crime-neighbors-claim-saw-bleeding-woman-screaming-help-LA-compound.html

Wellngood for the bastard. Its not everyday that these rich saudis can proudly strut around doing whatever they like. Commendable job for the singaporean authorities in upholding the law on everyone. Hopefully they'll serve as a standard that every nation should look to.

 
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February 07, 2017, 11:34:06 AM
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Public strokes are not as much about inflicting fear, as it is not that hardcore to get hit in your bottom 4 times.
They seem more like a tool to disgrace a person, shatter his dignity and undermine the authority of his position.
I bet that Saudi diplomat will remember that episode for the rest of his life very vividly.

I don't think that in Singapore, the caning is administered in the open. So the humiliation part is not that severe. However, in countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia and the GCC nations, it is given out in the open.

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February 07, 2017, 12:21:57 PM
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4 cane strokes in his buttock.

Why so small? such a light punishment

Even if it was just one stroke, it will deter people from committing similar crimes in the future. It may be over in 2 minutes, but the severity of the punishment is enough to create a fear in the mind of the criminals.
Public strokes are not as much about inflicting fear, as it is not that hardcore to get hit in your bottom 4 times.
They seem more like a tool to disgrace a person, shatter his dignity and undermine the authority of his position.
I bet that Saudi diplomat will remember that episode for the rest of his life very vividly.
I also think that he will remember this episode, but I doubt that he'll change his behavior. He probably just change the country of your stay. Not all countries belong to the diplomas. Sorry. Had it all put in jail.
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February 07, 2017, 05:42:37 PM
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This people from Saudi claim to leave a holy life but they are the most promiscuous people ,that will serve as a lesson to such people that act that way,even a lot of women that claim to travel to Saudi for holy prigimage travel tier for the purpose of engaging in prostitution and this so called holy alhaji patronized their srrvices
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February 07, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
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This people from Saudi claim to leave a holy life but they are the most promiscuous people ,that will serve as a lesson to such people that act that way,even a lot of women that claim to travel to Saudi for holy prigimage travel tier for the purpose of engaging in prostitution and this so called holy alhaji patronized their srrvices
I disagree with you. Impossible for women to engage in prostitution. If they do not want then nothing will. The only exception is rape. But I understand that it is not. Women do want sex, and provoke men.
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February 07, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
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I support applying jurisdiction over citizenship, not the territory. If Saudi citizen committed crime in Singapore he must be sent to Saudi Arabia and prosecuted under Sauidi laws.
It is 100% fault of Singaporean authorities who granted visa to this man and local court can give some lashes to visa officer (just a joke, personally I am against caning, monetary fine will be the best option). Then he will think twice before issuing visas!
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February 07, 2017, 06:12:42 PM
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4 cane strokes in his buttock.


Why so small? such a light punishment

I was told by a taxi driver in Singapore in January, that one cane lashing to the buttock would prevent you from walking normally for 6 months.

I don't know the facts of the case, but I thought rape was punished with death in Singapore?

I was also told that just touching a woman on her shoulder in a lewd manner without her consent was enough to get prison time and cane lashings.
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Reminds me of the incident in 1995 when then teenager Michael Fay was given 4 lashes for being a punk and spray painting cars in Singapore - he was originally sentenced to 6 lashes but had it reduced to 4. This rapist pos should just be caned to death.

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KETTERING, Ohio, June 25— The 19-year-old American who was caned in Singapore for vandalism says the bleeding it caused was "like a bloody nose."

The teen-ager, Michael P. Fay, said in an interview on Saturday that the four strokes with a rattan cane on May 5 had left three dark-brown scars on his right buttock and four lines each about half an inch wide on his left buttock.

In giving his first description of the caning, Mr. Fay said that prison officials told him he had shouted, "I'm dying," when the first stroke was delivered. He said he could not remember crying out.

He said a prison officer stood beside him and guided him through the ordeal, saying: "O.K., Michael, three left. O.K., Michael, two left. O.K., one more; you're almost done."

The Government of Singapore has defended caning as a normal part of the country's legal system, but the incident has strained Singapore's relations with the United States.

After confessing to vandalism, Mr. Fay was sentenced to four months in jail and six strokes with a half-inch-thick cane on two counts of vandalism and possession of stolen road signs. The sentence was later reduced to four strokes...

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/27/us/teen-ager-caned-in-singapore-tells-of-the-blood-and-the-scars.html
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February 08, 2017, 03:04:32 AM
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The idiot Saudi thought that Singapore was like the United States and India, where rich Saudis could rape whomever they want. He was proven wrong, and was sentenced to 26 months imprisonment plus 4 cane strokes in his buttock.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/saudi-diplomat-gets-26-months-and-one-week-in-jail-4-strokes-of-the-cane-for

For the previous incidents in India and the US, check these links:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/saudi-diplomat-friends-rape-gangrape-nepali-mother-daughter-the-complete-story/1/469406.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3248499/Saudi-prince-arrested-sex-crime-neighbors-claim-saw-bleeding-woman-screaming-help-LA-compound.html
That will give him a good lesson. And it will be an example to all countries that even if you are an elite you have no right to exploit or take advantage somebody sexually. Sexual respect should still be uphold and rights should be followed if you are in other çountries. As for that diplomat, it serves him right.
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That will give him a good lesson.
Caning... good lesson?! Following your logic ICBM on Sauidi Arabia would be even better lesson and antimatter bomb on whole Earth in the best!  Grin
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Unfortunately most countries have immunity on diplomats that's why some diplomats abuse it. Most cases, they're just sent back to their home country. Good thing that this didn't happened to Singaporean government and i salute them for teaching a lesson to this diplomat.
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Unfortunately most countries have immunity on diplomats that's why some diplomats abuse it. Most cases, they're just sent back to their home country. Good thing that this didn't happened to Singaporean government and i salute them for teaching a lesson to this diplomat.

Perhaps that is the reason why Singapore is having one of the lowest crime rates in the world, despite its location in South-east Asia. Also, we should remember that Singapore is a multi-cultural nation and a melting pot for immigrants.

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February 10, 2017, 07:49:39 AM
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The idiot Saudi thought that Singapore was like the United States and India, where rich Saudis could rape whomever they want. He was proven wrong, and was sentenced to 26 months imprisonment plus 4 cane strokes in his buttock.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/saudi-diplomat-gets-26-months-and-one-week-in-jail-4-strokes-of-the-cane-for

For the previous incidents in India and the US, check these links:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/saudi-diplomat-friends-rape-gangrape-nepali-mother-daughter-the-complete-story/1/469406.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3248499/Saudi-prince-arrested-sex-crime-neighbors-claim-saw-bleeding-woman-screaming-help-LA-compound.html

I respect the fact that you are seeing this as a victory over the way this would have been treated in other countries that you have stated but to me, I still see it as a slap on the wrist and you might agree that if it were to be a local that is involved I am sure the punishment would have been more punitive than this then the element of being rich is definitely playing out in this scenario. I just wondered the effect of this on the victim that 26 months and 4 strokes of cane would eradicate.
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February 10, 2017, 04:25:48 PM
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The idiot Saudi thought that Singapore was like the United States and India, where rich Saudis could rape whomever they want. He was proven wrong, and was sentenced to 26 months imprisonment plus 4 cane strokes in his buttock.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/saudi-diplomat-gets-26-months-and-one-week-in-jail-4-strokes-of-the-cane-for

For the previous incidents in India and the US, check these links:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/saudi-diplomat-friends-rape-gangrape-nepali-mother-daughter-the-complete-story/1/469406.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3248499/Saudi-prince-arrested-sex-crime-neighbors-claim-saw-bleeding-woman-screaming-help-LA-compound.html

I respect the fact that you are seeing this as a victory over the way this would have been treated in other countries that you have stated but to me, I still see it as a slap on the wrist and you might agree that if it were to be a local that is involved I am sure the punishment would have been more punitive than this then the element of being rich is definitely playing out in this scenario. I just wondered the effect of this on the victim that 26 months and 4 strokes of cane would eradicate.

The punishment may be too lenient, as per you (I don't think so). But these sort of punishments will deter similar crimes in the future. Even if this news succeeds in preventing a single similar crime in the future, I will be happy.

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Perhaps that is the reason why Singapore is having one of the lowest crime rates in the world, despite its location in South-east Asia. Also, we should remember that Singapore is a multi-cultural nation and a melting pot for immigrants.
Singapore has fertility rate of 1.2 children per woman. If it's so successful by your opinion, why this country doomed to death?!
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Perhaps that is the reason why Singapore is having one of the lowest crime rates in the world, despite its location in South-east Asia. Also, we should remember that Singapore is a multi-cultural nation and a melting pot for immigrants.
Singapore has fertility rate of 1.2 children per woman. If it's so successful by your opinion, why this country doomed to death?!

Singapore doesnt even have free speech.
The media is controlled by the .gov there.


Btw. No jail? Who says he really got canned if its not public?

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Perhaps that is the reason why Singapore is having one of the lowest crime rates in the world, despite its location in South-east Asia. Also, we should remember that Singapore is a multi-cultural nation and a melting pot for immigrants.
Singapore has fertility rate of 1.2 children per woman. If it's so successful by your opinion, why this country doomed to death?!

You must remember that Singapore is a majority ethnic Chinese nation. Although it is situated in the South-east Asia, the majority of the population is East Asian. So the fertility rate there is similar to that in various East Asian nations such as Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.

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February 11, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
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Perhaps that is the reason why Singapore is having one of the lowest crime rates in the world, despite its location in South-east Asia. Also, we should remember that Singapore is a multi-cultural nation and a melting pot for immigrants.
Singapore has fertility rate of 1.2 children per woman. If it's so successful by your opinion, why this country doomed to death?!

You must remember that Singapore is a majority ethnic Chinese nation. Although it is situated in the South-east Asia, the majority of the population is East Asian. So the fertility rate there is similar to that in various East Asian nations such as Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.
The more educated people in the country, the lower her fertility. This is due to the desire of parents to ensure that their future and their children. Illiterate people in their children's workforce which will support them in old age.
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The more educated people in the country, the lower her fertility. This is due to the desire of parents to ensure that their future and their children. Illiterate people in their children's workforce which will support them in old age.

In most of the countries, that rule holds true. But there are some notable exceptions. For example, the fertility rate in Israel is 3.09 children per woman (3.13 for Jews, 3.32 for Muslims, and 2.12 for Christians). On the other hand, the same for North Korea is 1.98 children per woman.

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