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https://twitter.com/Truthcoin/status/827695619355598852Looks like The Powers That Be are scared that bitcoin manages to keep climbing back to 1000+ territory. They tried with XT, then classiccoin, now that they realized their PBOC FUD is not working, its BUcoin time. Luckily, the only thing they are going to accomplish is waste a lot of money, and in the small chance the disaster happens, it's time to dump since both sides will crash as we saw with the ETH/ETC debacle. Core will eventually emerge as the winner since they are objectively the best coders, but no side will win on overall bitcoin crashing and getting a shitfest on mainstream media, with an overall winner: governments and rothchild's gold (as intended, through the good old "divide and conquer" method which they have been using for ages every time something threatened the status quo) Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold. BUcoin will soon join the list of failed powergrab attempts with false promises. They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year.
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Indeed, this bitcoin unlimited meme needs to end. A part of me actually wishes they took control as the main branch of bitcoin, just to see the faces of the poor delusional idiots that actually support those amateur crooks, but that would mean bitcoin is fucked beyond belief and anyone that has holdings in bitcoin and wants to hold them long term for 10+ years knows the project wouldn't survive. They don't want people to have digital gold.
At the end of the day nothing will happen, BU can't get shit done without Core's code, in the moment of truth anyone holding real money will run Core nodes and those state-bribed miners will learn the lesson and either support Core or get the fuck out and start their own altcoin.
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BTC.TOP is a new public pool looking to get their name out. Not surprise they'd make loud statements at their inception.
As of BU gaining momentum, we've come to know that node numbers mean absolutely nothing a long time ago.
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February 04, 2017, 03:56:07 PM |
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Why not ban BU scammers or at least keep BU threads in alt section?
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February 04, 2017, 04:23:10 PM |
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r/bitcoin script 1. script: "everyone shout out that you fear non-core implementations want to split the network" 2. reply: but they dont, they want to use consensus
3. script: "ok everyone shout that non-core SHOULD split off" 4. reply: now thats hypocrisy, but they wont, they want to use consensus
5. script: "ok everyone shout that they are giving miners the power" 6. reply: but they are not. core are giving the miners the decision power, by bypassing node votes.
7. script: "ok everyone scream that non-core want to take cores dictatorship away" 8. reply: but there should be no dictatorship, there should only be consensus
9. script: "ok call anyone hating core-blockstream a troll because we run out of misdirected scripts"
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February 04, 2017, 04:23:49 PM |
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As of BU gaining momentum, we've come to know that node numbers mean absolutely nothing a long time ago.
Interesting, it was argued quite often SegWit full node support of 60+% actually means something.
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February 04, 2017, 05:06:47 PM |
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https://twitter.com/Truthcoin/status/827695619355598852Looks like The Powers That Be are scared that bitcoin manages to keep climbing back to 1000+ territory. They tried with XT, then classiccoin, now that they realized their PBOC FUD is not working, its BUcoin time. Luckily, the only thing they are going to accomplish is waste a lot of money, and in the small chance the disaster happens, it's time to dump since both sides will crash as we saw with the ETH/ETC debacle. Core will eventually emerge as the winner since they are objectively the best coders, but no side will win on overall bitcoin crashing and getting a shitfest on mainstream media, with an overall winner: governments and rothchild's gold (as intended, through the good old "divide and conquer" method which they have been using for ages every time something threatened the status quo) Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold. BUcoin will soon join the list of failed powergrab attempts with false promises. They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year. Other people said different things. That chinese miners have totally different opinions in terms of SegWit or HF. And mainly Jiang and his idiots are the ones making all the noise. Let them risk a trial of strength! I'm pretty sure they will be the ones looking pretty stupid, empty handed at the end!
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February 04, 2017, 05:32:34 PM |
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well, if it really comes down to it then bitcoin will be screwed. if it can do this once then there's no reason why it can't do it infinitely provided the circumstances are there. not very many people will choose to trust it. if it really does happen then i hope what emerges from the wreckage is a way of getting rid of mining pools, asics and ideally the whole of china. they haven't brought much to the party. As of BU gaining momentum, we've come to know that node numbers mean absolutely nothing a long time ago.
it ain't nodes, it's proper signalling. bu now outweighs segwit.
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February 04, 2017, 05:53:28 PM |
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To be completely honest I'd be surprised if there was really that much of a push from governments to try and get rid of Bitcoin through things like BU and everything else. I don't know if its really worth the time it's taking them to try and bring it down, and the apparently repeatedly failed attempts that you're detailing.
While I know the government is wasteful, I don't think they're this blatantly stupid.
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February 04, 2017, 07:29:05 PM |
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To be completely honest I'd be surprised if there was really that much of a push from governments to try and get rid of Bitcoin through things like BU and everything else. I don't know if its really worth the time it's taking them to try and bring it down, and the apparently repeatedly failed attempts that you're detailing.
While I know the government is wasteful, I don't think they're this blatantly stupid.
The government is not stupid. They want to get rid of cash, and the immediate alternative for when that happens will be bitcoin (because they will ban gold too, they have already done it in the past), so you are delusional if you think bitcoin isn't under their radar. They want to crush it, and they know the best way is to launch a trojan horse dressed as a sweet solution that sounds good in principle but it's really shit (BU) in order to take control and get rid of Core which is the original cryptopunk team that wants to keep the network as decentralized as possible by giving nodes the #1 priority (without easy to run nodes bitcoin is useless as a censorship resistant tool). Government/bankster mafia top priority nowadays is to start shifting the bitcoin network into a datacenter driven network instead of random people running them at home on their own computers (if you are not holding the blockchain yourself you are not hosting a full node, so forget about online services crap).
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February 04, 2017, 08:36:43 PM Last edit: February 04, 2017, 08:48:36 PM by franky1 |
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The government is not stupid. They want to get rid of cash, and the immediate alternative for when that happens will be bitcoin (because they will ban gold too, they have already done it in the past), so you are delusional if you think bitcoin isn't under their radar. They want to crush it, and they know the best way is to launch a trojan horse dressed as a sweet solution that sounds good in principle but it's really shit (BU) in order to take control and get rid of Core which is the original cryptopunk team that wants to keep the network as decentralized as possible by giving nodes the #1 priority (without easy to run nodes bitcoin is useless as a censorship resistant tool).
Government/bankster mafia top priority nowadays is to start shifting the bitcoin network into a datacenter driven network instead of random people running them at home on their own computers (if you are not holding the blockchain yourself you are not hosting a full node, so forget about online services crap).
1. CORE are bypassing node consensus to make the rules have upto FOUR mb weight WITHOUT node votes allowing/vetoing 2. other implementations USE NODE CONSENSUS where the nodes decide what they can cope with. and then pools react when there is consensus. 3. CORES main guys sipa, gmaxwell, matt corallo, luke jr(plus dozen others) are PAID by corporations. even gmaxwells/adam backs 'founded' business has MEMBERSHIP into HYPERLEDGER, which is the BANKERS fiat2.0 concept. wake up to the hypocrisy of the scripts they get sheep to shout. when the real truth is that core are doing all the mis-deeds. https://www.hyperledger.org/about/members <- general members - blockstream admit it they get sheep to fear splits, and then tell sheep to beg non-core implementation too split.. yet non-core implementations refuse to split. non core implementations want to use consensus. not splits. just wake up
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peer-2peer, Decentralised, distributed, cryptocurrencies are out of the box. They have no chance now Every attempt to control and manipulate will only makes the next generation even more secure/control resistant. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) good luck hahaha
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February 04, 2017, 10:28:57 PM |
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The government is not stupid. They want to get rid of cash, and the immediate alternative for when that happens will be bitcoin (because they will ban gold too, they have already done it in the past), so you are delusional if you think bitcoin isn't under their radar. They want to crush it, and they know the best way is to launch a trojan horse dressed as a sweet solution that sounds good in principle but it's really shit (BU) in order to take control and get rid of Core which is the original cryptopunk team that wants to keep the network as decentralized as possible by giving nodes the #1 priority (without easy to run nodes bitcoin is useless as a censorship resistant tool).
Government/bankster mafia top priority nowadays is to start shifting the bitcoin network into a datacenter driven network instead of random people running them at home on their own computers (if you are not holding the blockchain yourself you are not hosting a full node, so forget about online services crap).
1. CORE are bypassing node consensus to make the rules have upto FOUR mb weight WITHOUT node votes allowing/vetoing 2. other implementations USE NODE CONSENSUS where the nodes decide what they can cope with. and then pools react when there is consensus. 3. CORES main guys sipa, gmaxwell, matt corallo, luke jr(plus dozen others) are PAID by corporations. even gmaxwells/adam backs 'founded' business has MEMBERSHIP into HYPERLEDGER, which is the BANKERS fiat2.0 concept. wake up to the hypocrisy of the scripts they get sheep to shout. when the real truth is that core are doing all the mis-deeds. https://www.hyperledger.org/about/members <- general members - blockstream admit it they get sheep to fear splits, and then tell sheep to beg non-core implementation too split.. yet non-core implementations refuse to split. non core implementations want to use consensus. not splits. just wake up Franky, genuine question, what is the fear? what do you think is the ultimate goal of Blockstream and a hyperledger ?
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February 04, 2017, 10:52:05 PM |
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BU can't get shit done without Core's code
Meanwhile, core can't get shit done without Satoshi's code. So what? You seem to have little understanding of the way open source development works. Or really any technological progress whatsoever. Every innovator is enabled by standing atop the giants that preceded her.
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Franky, genuine question, what is the fear? what do you think is the ultimate goal of Blockstream and a hyperledger ?
hyperledger is FIAT2.0 blockstream are using bitcoin as the "experiment" messing with offchain/sidechain techniques to then hand those techniques to the bankers so that the bankers can have their 200+fiat interlaced and swappable chains(national currencies and other markets) holding up bitcoin onchain growth just to let blockstream paid devs sandbox bitcoin to give time for hyperledger to overtake. is not helping bitcoin
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February 05, 2017, 05:00:53 AM |
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The tide has turned against Core. BU seem unstoppable here.
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https://twitter.com/Truthcoin/status/827695619355598852Looks like The Powers That Be are scared that bitcoin manages to keep climbing back to 1000+ territory. They tried with XT, then classiccoin, now that they realized their PBOC FUD is not working, its BUcoin time. Luckily, the only thing they are going to accomplish is waste a lot of money, and in the small chance the disaster happens, it's time to dump since both sides will crash as we saw with the ETH/ETC debacle. Core will eventually emerge as the winner since they are objectively the best coders, but no side will win on overall bitcoin crashing and getting a shitfest on mainstream media, with an overall winner: governments and rothchild's gold (as intended, through the good old "divide and conquer" method which they have been using for ages every time something threatened the status quo) Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold. BUcoin will soon join the list of failed powergrab attempts with false promises. They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year. After PBOC has conducted their investigation on Chinese Exchangers and the fake volumes and market manipulation cases were put into stop, bitcoin users have again enkindled their trust to bitcoins. This point of time even if there are new threats to bitcoin it will still survive and may even surpass your prediction which is Two thoudand dollars this year.
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the real funny thing about the OP's rant. is that he tries to pretend he cares about bitcoin with the lets hope common sense keeps the status quo of one open network of digital gold Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold. sidnote: bitcoin is not digital gold. bitcoin is a digital asset, far better than digital gold in many many ways he also pretends to detest government money. by mentioning government and rothchild divide and conquer agenda. but here is the thing. he himself is playing the divide and conquer game by trying to make core the victim who should win dictatorship. by pointing cores failures in the opposite direction.. rather than think/talk/ mention consensus of no kings. ending his post with his ultimate desire.. to exit bitcoin when he can get $2000 of that government money he pretends to detest per coin. "They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year." here is some things that he needs to realise. 1. the drama of the PBOC visit btcc, irs visit circle and coinbase began from the blockstream rumour mill.. barry silbert(DCG) has ownership stakes in: BTCC, coinbase, blockstream, and.. coindeskso the rumour mill made a normal regulatory inspection sound like an attack. like barry's companies are being victimised. etc etc. all of which is meaningless crap. because it does not affect consensus of the network or the code. but the OP subtly is making it sound like core is the victim and if people stay in the sheep stroking arms of core, the price will rise to $2k this year please wake up people and care more about consensus and the code
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February 05, 2017, 11:13:38 AM |
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The tide has turned against Core. BU seem unstoppable here.
lol where's the BU hardfork then? Hurry up and fork, this is like one of those japanese cartoons where the characters take the whole half-hour to talk about the massive fight they're about to have. You've all been talking for 2 years, when will you actually do something?
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February 05, 2017, 11:36:08 AM |
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lol where's the BU hardfork then?
Hurry up and fork, this is like one of those japanese cartoons where the characters take the whole half-hour to talk about the massive fight they're about to have.
You've all been talking for 2 years, when will you actually do something?
I'm not a big blocker but I can read. BU now has more miner support than Segwit. Don't know what they're waiting for but it's coming.
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