What would happen if ALL countries's borders were taken away tomorrow?

The issue of immigration is big in the news at the moment, in Europe and the US.

There seems to be two camps in this debate:

(A)
Those that feel that the current levels of immigration are detrimental to (low paid) wage earners and/or local culture/civilization and access to immigrate needs to be qualified and restricted more than is the case today.

and

(B)
Those that feel that in general, immigration is a good, necessary and desirable phenomenon that stokes our economy and enriches our culture. Freedom of movement is the end goal.

So my question here is, if we were to take case (B) to the extreme and take away ALL National borders tomorrow, allowing freedom of movement of everyone in the world....

What would happen?

If there were no borders then we would see this in every European city x100. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et-6w_BDdc4

There would be looting, crime and murder everywhere. With the exception of North America. Trump's wall will block them coming from the south, the Atlantic will swallow them up trying to cross and well no one will go to Canada since its cold as fuck up here.

If boarders where to be taken away we would expect developed countries to get over populated in a small time frame with lawlessness and all sorts of crimes Sad

such that the immigrants will want to go back where the migrated from.

There would be an absolute chaos, people from poor countries would swarm the rich countries, making it crowded and overpopulated. Eventually those big cities would crash, leaving smaller poorer countries and towns with less people, therefore more chance of finding a job.

Shortly, chaos.

Until things come back to balance, it would be total chaos, with the current main economies to be overcrowded and crime rates spiking. Afterwards would be a good thing... but we don't know exactly how long it would take for balance to re-settle, it could mean several generations.

Quote from: BCEmporium on February 06, 2017, 08:26:16 PM

So after some time, maybe several generations, you think there would no no imbalances? From one state/area to another?

Eventually people would redistribute in a way that lower the asymmetries. Not a perfect World, though, the predatory and viral behavior of humans would cause some groups to try to isolate themselves by... restoring borders.

I suppose an interesting aside would be: If the world were to become border-less tomorrow... Would this change anyone's plan here?

Probably people like Kardashian family, Beyonce, J Lo, and Bieber getting raped every night several times, not that they complain or something Cheesy

Quote from: Imaginary Entity on February 06, 2017, 06:24:04 PM

Your second scenario is not going to happen, even in old roman times uncontrolled immigration was seen with bad eyes and that is why the romans had issues with the Gallic tribes, this is nothing new and it is simply not going to happen.

Most countries have open borders where people can visit simpler than most other countries. These are the ones where it allows business exchange or networking.

International movements are already starting to pop up shifting boundaries by connecting infastructure. In the not too distant future i'm starting to observe this happening slowly, yet steadily.

Quote from: Imaginary Entity on February 06, 2017, 08:37:48 PM

So after some time, maybe several generations, you think there would no no imbalances? From one state/area to another?

Doubtful in the extreme. One's climate has a bearing on the quality of life. There are large areas where water is limited and crops are hard to grow. Equally if society collapsed all those cold places would suddenly become a lot harder to live in.

I suppose everyone would huddle on the Canary Islands all they all starved to death.

Public sector services and immigration are incompatible. No borders = no public sector.

If we removed all borders, there would be mass chaos. People who are unhappy with their country would simply

pack up and leave. There would be mass movements accross the world, especially in areas of high immigration, such

as the Mexico-United States border. Lets say that no more political borders are created, the locations of certain

ethnicities around the world will be completely changed.

Quote from: mikehersh2 on February 07, 2017, 12:35:59 PM

That is why this will never happen. Countries that rich will immediately go bankrupt. The prosperity of the country is primarily achieved through monetary policy. Otherwise, all countries would be poor and would not make sense to migrate.

The issue of immigrants is one of the problems facing developed countries,a lot of immigrants passing through Europe are giving them a lot of headaches,the bombing in Germany and in France is one example if the borders of most countries are taken away it will lead to overpopulation in most advance economic, because countries with poor economy will migration to developed countries which will cause population explosion

Quote from: philggg on February 07, 2017, 05:51:09 PM

I do not agree. Population explosion is not because developed economies will not sustain such inflow of migrants. They just collapse and developed countries in the world simply will not. Will the world of nomads.

Quote from: BCEmporium on February 06, 2017, 08:26:16 PM

Yeah, it would all balance out and then the rich countries would look like the poor countries. Everyone would be happy. NOT.

If there will be no borders then we must abolish the government and establish a one world government to make everything works. If there are government in every country and there are no borders then the governments will suffer from money laundering and huge number of crimes will occur since syndicates will grow larger due to the abolition of border. In my case the abolition of border would mean a detrimental effect to different countries.

The rich countries of today aren't the rich countries of the past and won't be the rich countries of the future. The world is always changing.
And the World still can be divided by countries without borders, each with its own government, like USA or EU.
The issue is with some still too undeveloped nations' people to jump in to places where qualification is a high demand and they've none, making them indigents on their arrival.