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February 08, 2017, 11:51:46 PM
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CNN put out an article today noting that the British House of Commons approved the Brexit Bill in order to go further with the UK's departure from the European Union. I fully beleive that the decision to leave was the right decision and even though the cost to leave is going to be high, I still think it was best for the country of Britain itself.

What do you think about the almost finalized departure of Britain from the EU? Anyone here from Britain experiencing anything first hand?

Here is the link to the article by the way! - http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/europe/brexit-bill-parliament-vote-article-50/index.html

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February 09, 2017, 12:56:25 AM
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As a onlooker from a country that is not in European Union, I can tell you that the EU is slowly falling apart. I'm kind of against EU because it isn't anymore what it used to be and UK leaving EU is one of the steps to falling apart. Also, I'm against it because when poor countries enter it, it's kind of a loss from them, people are free to move easier and do you think that people who can and are simply not satisfied what they've got in their countries wouldn't move out? Also, milking rich countries for money. It's all kind of falling apart slowly but surely.

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February 09, 2017, 02:36:34 AM
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this now parliament in english still discussion and vote about revoting again about brexit
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February 09, 2017, 09:12:04 AM
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CNN put out an article today noting that the British House of Commons approved the Brexit Bill in order to go further with the UK's departure from the European Union. I fully beleive that the decision to leave was the right decision and even though the cost to leave is going to be high, I still think it was best for the country of Britain itself.

What do you think about the almost finalized departure of Britain from the EU? Anyone here from Britain experiencing anything first hand?

Here is the link to the article by the way! - http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/europe/brexit-bill-parliament-vote-article-50/index.html

 From the day the election took place, its already a reality its just a matter of time every other thing is just foot dragging. A Prime Minister resigned as a result of this and you are saying its not a reality? They have made their choice and ready to live by it and I am sure if things are not set in motion soon, it might start to create unnecessary tension around UK.

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February 09, 2017, 12:00:22 PM
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CNN put out an article today noting that the British House of Commons approved the Brexit Bill in order to go further with the UK's departure from the European Union. I fully beleive that the decision to leave was the right decision and even though the cost to leave is going to be high, I still think it was best for the country of Britain itself.

What do you think about the almost finalized departure of Britain from the EU? Anyone here from Britain experiencing anything first hand?

Here is the link to the article by the way! - http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/europe/brexit-bill-parliament-vote-article-50/index.html

 From the day the election took place, its already a reality its just a matter of time every other thing is just foot dragging. A Prime Minister resigned as a result of this and you are saying its not a reality? They have made their choice and ready to live by it and I am sure if things are not set in motion soon, it might start to create unnecessary tension around UK.
For me, the situation in the UK is just an excuse to make sure that democracy is not the best device companies. To become a good politician you need to learn over the years, and what the longshoreman could ruin everything.
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February 09, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
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re-vote again lol

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February 09, 2017, 03:16:25 PM
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It's a lose-lose situation. I don't know why they don't just admit it that they've made a huge mistake, explain better everything to the people, maybe make another referendum and stop this absurdity which only costs everybody money.

It's like winning the contest of being the ugliest. Sometimes "winning" is not the best thing.

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February 09, 2017, 03:17:29 PM
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BREXIT WILL happen or there will be a revolution in the UK. It will be slow going and likely it should be, so as to ease themselves into the transition, but make no doubt, the people won't be silenced. Globalism is dying. This is a trend occurring all around the globe.

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February 09, 2017, 06:52:44 PM
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i disagree, but you know people follow bs media which thinks news = clicks or the bs anomonus media which thinks memes is power

, the EU is a awesome concept, hell USA is a similar setup to the EU, each of the states can have there own army and only come together if they agree, in america how do they deal with tax shifting in states?
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February 09, 2017, 07:04:05 PM
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BREXIT WILL happen or there will be a revolution in the UK. It will be slow going and likely it should be, so as to ease themselves into the transition, but make no doubt, the people won't be silenced. Globalism is dying. This is a trend occurring all around the globe.
Globalism is an attempt to make their country more powerful. Besides, the more the country is divided, the more they will trade wars and trade barriers. Is it better to fight? I think you are right.

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February 09, 2017, 08:03:51 PM
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this now parliament in english still discussion and vote about revoting again about brexit

And ignoring the referendum? Then the people, who voted for Brexit in current conditions will be proven right.

As for globalism - it obviously reached its limitations. Living conditions in the west peaked around 1980 and are stagnating since then, while working conditions and security actually got much worse. Only people making money from globalism today are deputies of banks and corporations, including politicians.
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February 09, 2017, 08:20:32 PM
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this now parliament in english still discussion and vote about revoting again about brexit

And ignoring the referendum? Then the people, who voted for Brexit in current conditions will be proven right.

As for globalism - it obviously reached its limitations. Living conditions in the west peaked around 1980 and are stagnating since then, while working conditions and security actually got much worse. Only people making money from globalism today are deputies of banks and corporations, including politicians.
I can't say it's right or not I'm not from UK, but I think that if leaving the EU is not beneficial for the country, I would place politicians explained to the people that this is not correct and asked them to re-vote.
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You see Villy,

while you might be onto something, the thing is, that entire idea of  western democracy is based upon notion that the people are the sovereign. Politicians and leaders base all their legitimacy on elections. Therefore blatant ignorance of democratic nation-wide vote that was called in by government in the first place would amount to high treason. Not just of the people, but of cultural identity aswell. If we will forfeit democracy for short term gains (eventhough that is quite speculative in the case of EU), then we might lose much, much more than money and time. 
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Can't wait for all the people who voted for Brexit getting exactly what they voted for, which is the tories grinding them into the fucking dirt!  Wave goodbye to your workers' rights.  Here's what the ruling class managed to achieve with EU protections in place:

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The number of workers without guaranteed hours or basic employment rights has risen by more than 660,000 in the past five years

Just imagine what they'll achieve when they throw the EU protections out the window because that's what you gormless plebs wanted.  But you'll still somehow find a way to blame it on immigration.  Then, after your rights are gone, enjoy your harsher economy as wages stagnate, the prices of all the things you buy continue to rise and the portions continue to shrink.  Then when all your money is gone and you get ill, it's fine, the NHS will sort you out.  Oh wait, no, that's going to be sold off piece by piece until there's nothing left.  No money, no healthcare.  

Just remember, it's exactly what you wanted.  To take back control and hand it over on a silver platter to the tories.  I hope you get everything you deserve.



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You see Villy,

while you might be onto something, the thing is, that entire idea of  western democracy is based upon notion that the people are the sovereign. Politicians and leaders base all their legitimacy on elections. Therefore blatant ignorance of democratic nation-wide vote that was called in by government in the first place would amount to high treason. Not just of the people, but of cultural identity aswell. If we will forfeit democracy for short term gains (eventhough that is quite speculative in the case of EU), then we might lose much, much more than money and time. 
I'm afraid that as soon as the UK leaves the EU then the problems begin with Scotland. She doesn't want to leave the EU and could repeat the referendum on secession from the UK. What then?
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If brexit will actually going to happen it is unclear whether the whole United Kingdom may suffer a big loss as well as Great Britain. The best thing to do is to follow Le Pen, France presidential candidate, her idea was to make pounds a common currency. They will make another currency but they will make pounds a common currency. If all countries will agree to that idea that they will make their own currency but they will use pounds as a common currency then there will be no economic breakdown.

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this now parliament in english still discussion and vote about revoting again about brexit

And ignoring the referendum? Then the people, who voted for Brexit in current conditions will be proven right.

As for globalism - it obviously reached its limitations. Living conditions in the west peaked around 1980 and are stagnating since then, while working conditions and security actually got much worse. Only people making money from globalism today are deputies of banks and corporations, including politicians.
They are stagnating because after the Union was formed the West had to find money to lend to the East. These countries, that used to be part of another Union in the 80s had much worse living conditions. The problem is that the West would like to get some of the money back to improve their own state and it's not gonna happen anytime soon. We may see more exits in the future. BTW brexit is already a reality, it's going to happen this year.

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BREXIT WILL happen or there will be a revolution in the UK. It will be slow going and likely it should be, so as to ease themselves into the transition, but make no doubt, the people won't be silenced. Globalism is dying. This is a trend occurring all around the globe.

The current version of globalism means rising unemployment and illegal immigration for the wealthier nations. They don't gain much out of it, and the local companies are struggling to compete against the foreign firms. Unless the situation changes, the support for globalism will continue sliding. 

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BREXIT WILL happen or there will be a revolution in the UK. It will be slow going and likely it should be, so as to ease themselves into the transition, but make no doubt, the people won't be silenced. Globalism is dying. This is a trend occurring all around the globe.

The current version of globalism means rising unemployment and illegal immigration for the wealthier nations. They don't gain much out of it, and the local companies are struggling to compete against the foreign firms. Unless the situation changes, the support for globalism will continue sliding. 
Globalism allows you to monopolize the economy of different countries. This leads to the fact that large international companies wiping out small local firms. Instead, the people get cheaper goods.
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February 10, 2017, 05:23:46 PM
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They're charging full bore into it and hardly anyone has piped up about it not being the best of ideas. I think we'll find out in a protracted and agonising manner that early optimism might have been unjustified.

Most people polled said they wouldn't vote for it if they ended up worse off. Well, it's bleedin' obvious you'll end up worse off. And the stat about 'what is the eu' being one of the number one searches after the vote says plenty.

The referendum question was purely about being in the EU. It said nothing about leaving the single market or customs union or even immigration. And another thing I find a tad mysterious is that non EU immigration, which is something the UK does have far more control over, has usually been higher but no one seems to have done anything to address that. That probably includes students, but I assume the EU figure does too.

The sum of it will probably add up to broadly similar immigration than before, more expense and hassle operating abroad, humongous expense in terms of disentangling and the country plenty more divided.

Result.


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