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February 10, 2017, 05:11:07 AM
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February 10, 2017, 05:54:08 AM
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RED FLAGS:
--newbie account with no established community experience ANYWHERE? -- check
--no escrow "we PROMISE to return the money if 40k not met" -- check
--buncha names but ZERO links to their social media (twitter linkedin) for ANY legitimacy -- check

way to sketchy im not touching this with a 10 foot poll, and god help anyone who does, in its current offering this looks like a sad, sad scam :/

"Please read previous replies. We've been around for in the Ethereum community for a while. "

ok, so i have 10 million BTC, please read what i just said, i have 10 million BTC, it MUST BE TRUE, as i SAID it ! ;p the logic is so flawed lolz

 











 











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February 10, 2017, 05:21:39 PM
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RED FLAGS:
--newbie account with no established community experience ANYWHERE? -- check
--no escrow "we PROMISE to return the money if 40k not met" -- check
--buncha names but ZERO links to their social media (twitter linkedin) for ANY legitimacy -- check

way to sketchy im not touching this with a 10 foot poll, and god help anyone who does, in its current offering this looks like a sad, sad scam :/

"Please read previous replies. We've been around for in the Ethereum community for a while. "

ok, so i have 10 million BTC, please read what i just said, i have 10 million BTC, it MUST BE TRUE, as i SAID it ! ;p the logic is so flawed lolz

Hi CjMapope, it's a good question you raised up and one of the more important ones too. From what I understand, there is no need for escrow in Ethereum. As the smart contract defines the rules and the rules  are - if the money aren’t collected, it can be refunded by using the function refund() or even by simply sending 0.001 ETH (it will return this additional 0.001 ETH too)"

With regards to the team members' profiles, they do list their linkedin profiles on the website. The founder even lists his own personal website on it. Perhaps you can visit http://www.santiment.net/ to have a look? Don't think it can get anymore legit than linkedin profiles. Hope the above helps to address your concerns.

Smiley

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February 10, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
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what about source code whitepaper? not much on blog to watch!

I don't think they have a whitepaper yet. But here's their Colourful paper: https://goo.gl/dZp2nJ
And here's the Digital Token Design paper to accompany it: http://goo.gl/WKGK2b

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February 10, 2017, 07:47:51 PM
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RED FLAGS:
--newbie account with no established community experience ANYWHERE? -- check
--no escrow "we PROMISE to return the money if 40k not met" -- check
--buncha names but ZERO links to their social media (twitter linkedin) for ANY legitimacy -- check

way to sketchy im not touching this with a 10 foot poll, and god help anyone who does, in its current offering this looks like a sad, sad scam :/

"Please read previous replies. We've been around for in the Ethereum community for a while. "

ok, so i have 10 million BTC, please read what i just said, i have 10 million BTC, it MUST BE TRUE, as i SAID it ! ;p the logic is so flawed lolz

Hi CjMapope, it's a good question you raised up and one of the more important ones too. From what I understand, there is no need for escrow in Ethereum. As the smart contract defines the rules and the rules  are - if the money aren’t collected, it can be refunded by using the function refund() or even by simply sending 0.001 ETH (it will return this additional 0.001 ETH too)"

With regards to the team members' profiles, they do list their linkedin profiles on the website. The founder even lists his own personal website on it. Perhaps you can visit http://www.santiment.net/ to have a look? Don't think it can get anymore legit than linkedin profiles. Hope the above helps to address your concerns.

Smiley

checking them all out now, thx for reply!   it seems these people are real, yay! lol

 











 











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February 11, 2017, 12:17:33 AM
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I think it is better to use escrow services to provide security for participants who followed crowdsale SANTIMENT

which escrow is the best?
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February 11, 2017, 12:50:39 AM
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Sentiment or Santiment......

Why did you choose to go with the "a" instead of the "e" ?

Or is it just a typo?



The name seem to be well-thought. Some of the founders seem to be Russian. In Russian "santiment" would literally mean "one hundredth part of policeman" Grin

Not sure what they wanted to tell by that though...

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February 11, 2017, 01:00:08 AM
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No escrow no money, it may be another scam, otherwise if you are really a big project, the maximum for 120k usd? Hilarious, big project requires much more fund, and minimum for 40k usd? You dream, bad scammer boy.

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February 11, 2017, 01:12:39 AM
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No escrow no money, it may be another scam, otherwise if you are really a big project, the maximum for 120k usd? Hilarious, big project requires much more fund, and minimum for 40k usd? You dream, bad scammer boy.
It's only pre-sale. In the future, they want to collect $1,500,000)

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February 11, 2017, 01:17:22 AM
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No escrow no money, it may be another scam, otherwise if you are really a big project, the maximum for 120k usd? Hilarious, big project requires much more fund, and minimum for 40k usd? You dream, bad scammer boy.
It's only pre-sale. In the future, they want to collect $1,500,000)

Thanks, I noticed that.

Team

Maksim Balashevich, Founder
Serial product creator and experienced sentiment waves rider. International team leader. Crypto-market analyst. Yogi.

Dimitry Palchun, Ethereum Scientist
Smart contract developer and Ethereum enthusiast. Developing our token design and "Zero Knowledge Proof" part of the platform.

Mr. White, Scientist & Analyst
Researcher and crypto enthusiast. 10+ years in statistics/data mining, using textual analysis (Naive Bayes) for sentiment analysis.

Tzanko Matev, PhD, Mathemagician
Data scientist, number theorist, and software developer. Helping with our data visualizations. Brings experience with backend logic.

Mitchell Loureiro, Marketing Wizard
Crypto-marketing veteran and communications specialist. Focused on creating strong tribes and decentralizing the world.

Kim Carson, Designer & Copywriter
User-focused visual/interactive designer specializing in enterprise apps for web and mobile.

Feng Jiahong, Designer & Illustrator
Design and visual artist. Creator of the Santiment brand. Brings fintech experience, too.


Presale and Crowdsale

To see whether the market (that’s you!) wants the Santiment technology or not, we’ll be doing a presale and a crowdsale. Here are our aims:

1. A PRESALE, aiming to raise a minimum of $40,000 and a maximum of $120,000
2. A future CROWDSALE, aiming to raise a minimum of $500,000 and a maximum of $1,500,000.

But without no real identities proof, how can they raise so much money? I can make 20 fake names and CV in one hour. Destroy the scam, my target!!

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February 11, 2017, 01:26:36 AM
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No escrow no money, it may be another scam, otherwise if you are really a big project, the maximum for 120k usd? Hilarious, big project requires much more fund, and minimum for 40k usd? You dream, bad scammer boy.
It's only pre-sale. In the future, they want to collect $1,500,000)

Thanks, I noticed that.
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yupp , it will be time for some serious research into every name and link !  Use times like this guys to learn to do your own due dilegence, ask YOURSELF the hard questions, and hunt down YOURSELFS the answers, dont stop till you catch them in a lie or find NO lies at all. take example from people like gleb on HOW to spot scammers tactics like copy-paste and PROTECT YOURSELVES Smiley

Sentiment or Santiment......

Why did you choose to go with the "a" instead of the "e" ?

Or is it just a typo?



The name seem to be well-thought. Some of the founders seem to be Russian. In Russian "santiment" would literally mean "one hundredth part of policeman" Grin

Not sure what they wanted to tell by that though...



o haha thats funny, good to know! Smiley  interesting factoid ;p

No escrow no money, it may be another scam, otherwise if you are really a big project, the maximum for 120k usd? Hilarious, big project requires much more fund, and minimum for 40k usd? You dream, bad scammer boy.

THIS IS ALSO A MUST (due to recent events last 6months here with scams)  NO ESCROW=NO MONEY

 











 











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February 11, 2017, 01:37:45 AM
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RED FLAGS:
--newbie account with no established community experience ANYWHERE? -- check
--no escrow "we PROMISE to return the money if 40k not met" -- check
--buncha names but ZERO links to their social media (twitter linkedin) for ANY legitimacy -- check

way to sketchy im not touching this with a 10 foot poll, and god help anyone who does, in its current offering this looks like a sad, sad scam :/

"Please read previous replies. We've been around for in the Ethereum community for a while. "

ok, so i have 10 million BTC, please read what i just said, i have 10 million BTC, it MUST BE TRUE, as i SAID it ! ;p the logic is so flawed lolz

Hi CjMapope, it's a good question you raised up and one of the more important ones too. From what I understand, there is no need for escrow in Ethereum. As the smart contract defines the rules and the rules  are - if the money aren’t collected, it can be refunded by using the function refund() or even by simply sending 0.001 ETH (it will return this additional 0.001 ETH too)"

Thanks for this. I have read the smart contract .sol file (first time I have seen a Solidity code - well its less scary than I thought Smiley). It seems to be good (though I didnt really check for bugs).

But the fact is - the only protection is - it refunds if the minimum requested funds (4000 Ether) are not collected... Nothing else. Escrow is still needed to control the money, and release them in steps, according to goals reached. Otherwise nothing prevents developers from just running away with the money. 40k-120k USD is an amount good enough for doing that. How we can make sure this wont happen?

Public names is not a guarantee. See what happened on Nodio with all names being public.

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February 11, 2017, 02:02:44 AM
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For strategic investors and larger traders Santiment offers this aggregate data on crypto-market sentiment and emotion to enhance decision making. Since this information can't be found anywhere else, we expect large investors to value this data very highly.

Where and how would you collect that data? Those large investors should be sure the information you provide is actually inherited from an analysis of real-world data, but not just taken out of thin air!


We've been around for in the Ethereum community for a while. This announcement is to give people in the wider Bitcoin community a chance to participate as well. You can see our blog for our posts on trading analysis going back many months.

We understand that the timeframe is short; That's true. We figured that the BTC community at large deserved a chance to join, so here we are anyways.

That is great, but could you please show some (several) links to a public Etherium community discussions regarding your project? This including the Pre-ICO discussion thread on Etherium community forums?

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February 11, 2017, 02:09:19 AM
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@Drays   oooo yes!, now your talking!  

-Public names don't mean much , especially if they dont come to this forum and prove a legitimacy and who they are, tweets from official aged accounts, live videos, stuff like that are needed

-this contract needs to be audited by a trustless 3rd party, whats stopping you from knowing of an exploit (YOU built the contract), and maybe even multisiged with a 3rd party (maybe a trusted BCT identity), so theres NO way you guys can take the money b4 its all rolling
https://www.ethnews.com/the-importance-of-audits-and-secure-coding-for-smart-contracts

 











 











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February 11, 2017, 04:12:23 AM
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Hello everyone. I'm happy to see excitement for the project!

We understand your concerns, but for the moment we believe our security precautions are sufficient. We are incorporated. 'Running with money' is not an option for us.

If you feel like you aren't ready to contribute given these circumstances, no worries! We don't take it personally. We advise waiting for the crowdsale, when more mature security protocols, including escrow, will be in place.

Here's a list of major posts by our founder on the r/Ethtrader that I found via a quick reddit search, for those curious: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/search?q=Santiment&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all

Our medium account has a similar trail. We're quite public, and legally incorporated.

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Where and how would you collect that data?

Firstly, from the crypto-financial games. This is collected directly from our games and integrated exchange data.
Second, from sentiment data sources from across the internet. Think forums, reddits, everywhere relevant.
Then analyzed via machine-learning to produce something intelligible.
The mark of the 'reality' of the data is it's utility. If it works, we have something real. If it doesn't it won't be worth very much.
The bulk of this process will be open source. Our algorithims will not be.

I hope that answered some questions.  Smiley
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Is an Escrow service being placed for this ?
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I noticed that their "Mathemagician" is currently a Jr Meditation Teacher -
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tzanko-matev-2328425/

I've never heard such job for a PhD holder of Mathematics.

Anyway, as they said, even referring to your public profiles is not an assurance that you will not scheme people.
The only consolation is that it seems that this project has been in the works since last year so you're not a fly-by-night team by no means.

But as CjMapope said -
THIS IS ALSO A MUST (due to recent events last 6months here with scams)  NO ESCROW=NO MONEY


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waiting santiment more information like bounty campaign too.
 

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no escrow, no party  Grin !!


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February 11, 2017, 07:57:25 PM
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no escrow, no party  Grin !!

why do ppl want escrow if there is a smart contract...?! Or did I miss smoothing while considering that
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