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Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26380833 times)
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October 01, 2014, 09:41:13 AM

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October 01, 2014, 09:51:21 AM

Bitstamp seems clueless and somehow unwilling to react to the chinese madness.
So am I.  Cheesy
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October 01, 2014, 10:07:20 AM

Just noticed we passed the 13333337 BTC mined milestone.
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October 01, 2014, 10:10:29 AM

Its seems 380 will be a hard long term price for now.
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October 01, 2014, 10:15:35 AM

Its seems 380 will be a hard long term price for now.

How come?
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October 01, 2014, 10:27:21 AM

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That's because the price is denominated in, and raised by, fiat currency. You either have to fractionally fake users' fiat balances on your exchanges, or find more and more money to reach buywalls in order for it to rise. Those dollar bills/euro's/RMB's aren't %-based, and they're not infinite, except to the banks and governments, who generally have no need to bother with cryptocurrency, when they already hold the power of money creation. That means looking at old patterns that happened at price & adoption / manipulation levels orders of magnitude lower than now, and expecting the same % gains in 'the next bubble', is a logical fallacy - money functions according to a linear, geometric basis - it is not exponential, not %-based.. !!!

 And that, is why it's so much harder to go from $300-700 to $2500-7500, than it is to reach 10x from $116.

... all this is predicated on constant supply. Money markets don't work like that. The fiat value is exactly that, whatever people value it at and has nothing to do with how much fiat volume is "coming in" to the market.

If the price expectation is that it will go to 100k or 1million and that is widely (>95%) expected then that is where it will go because the vast majority will refuse to sell/trade for any value different from the majority.

Same thing if everybody (>95%) woke up tomorrow and decided Argentinian pesos are worthless, noone will trade them for anything much of value.

Money markets are generally a game of psychology, expectations, lies, manipulations, jaw-boning, "forward guidance" .... Bitcoin has the rare property in modern money markets of a solid floor, a lower bound backed with mining POW grounded in real physical effort, expenditure of energy and other resources that cannot be faked.
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October 01, 2014, 10:36:17 AM

Its seems 380 will be a hard long term price for now.

How come?

Not sure, just a prediction based on the price and the news about paypal and all, seems it will be stable at the current price for the next month. But hey, its bitcoin, expect the unexpected Wink
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October 01, 2014, 10:50:29 AM

Oh look the 390 wall is back. It's as if someone has a schedule to move the price and even if someone buys into them they just bring in more coins and continue without a hitch. They should have just used a reverse willy bot.
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October 01, 2014, 10:55:05 AM

So... 380 new long floor Y/N?
Close but i think it will come down closer to $300 before a noce rise again.
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October 01, 2014, 10:59:32 AM

losing faith here.   Tongue

october 2014: sub 400


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October 01, 2014, 11:03:03 AM

losing faith here.   Tongue

october 2014: sub 400



Couldn't hodl.
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October 01, 2014, 11:06:13 AM


eBTCola?
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October 01, 2014, 11:07:48 AM

losing faith here.   Tongue

october 2014: sub 400



Couldn't hodl.


my cold storage stash keeps hounting me. this is alarming, it never did before. must be bottom then...?
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October 01, 2014, 11:15:29 AM

Oh look the 390 wall is back. It's as if someone has a schedule to move the price and even if someone buys into them they just bring in more coins and continue without a hitch. They should have just used a reverse willy bot.

Completely natural market behaviour. No manipulation. Just ask Blitz.
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October 01, 2014, 11:44:48 AM

Big dump on stamp. Jesus it's boring.

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October 01, 2014, 11:46:30 AM

losing faith here.   Tongue

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my cold storage stash keeps hounting me. this is alarming, it never did before. must be bottom then...?

I found out that I manage to keep that feeling in check by keeping the size of my cold storage close to, but below the size of my active stash.
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October 01, 2014, 11:46:54 AM


eBTCola?



Good morning, campers!
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October 01, 2014, 12:00:07 PM

Not sure what the dumper wants to achieve? Market is oversold...  Roll Eyes
Bankruptcy by the looks of it, totally unsustainable and the markets are either laughing at it and soaking up the discounts or got bored and gone elsewhere. Another couple of months of this and they'll have the markets to themselves and just be a source of coins, asks aren't coming in so I guess folks are going otc with their coins already.

This. I stopped using exchange plateforms as I did not want to be traceable with my bank accounts et al.. Every people i help getting bitcoin is with OTC channels and bitcoin ATMs. Online exchange plateforms may not hold their promise as they have totally abusive KYC processes. Anyway, they barely represent 1/4 of the total bitcoin in circulation and they may even not survive if they keep on giving up to the states and politics.
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