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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
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Today at 07:57:59 PM

look at that point on rear bumper/hatchback




All cybertrucks i have seen so far were driving erratically, as if saying "I am an a-hole in an a-hole car...and what you are going to do about it?"
As far as a-hole meter is concerned, cybertruck drivers > BMW drivers by a factor of 3x or so and I thought that it would be impossible.
That said, I am trying not to drive my beemer too much because every time I get in, something changes in my road behavior and I don't like it.
Thinking of buying a Macan (don't need a Mers or lambo).
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Today at 08:07:00 PM

I finally received my mtgox payout. After so many years it doesn’t seem real. It seems like the only uncertainty left in the market is the BTC the US government is sitting on, but it sounds like Trump is going to try and ease that concern this week. Admittedly the market is more bullish than I anticipated. I’m beginning to wonder if my end of year target of $85K is too low.

Glad to hear that you got some coins back, I have to agree 85K is way too low
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Today at 08:10:58 PM

I finally received my mtgox payout. After so many years it doesn’t seem real. It seems like the only uncertainty left in the market is the BTC the US government is sitting on, but it sounds like Trump is going to try and ease that concern this week. Admittedly the market is more bullish than I anticipated. I’m beginning to wonder if my end of year target of $85K is too low.

Glad to hear that you got some coins back, I have to agree 85K is way too low

Definitely too low if Trump comes on stage saying something like what RFK jr is saying…

https://x.com/simplybitcointv/status/1816917058820637097

Watching this unfold over the last 13 years has been such a wild ride. I can’t believe that Presidential candidates are saying things like this. Are we really in the timeline where magic internet money becomes the currency of mankind?
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Today at 08:17:48 PM

Seem like a bit bullshit...

1) There is no way they can promise the return they are saying
2) They will MOST probably convert your BTC somehow
3) Golden visa or not (for not EU citizen), you have to live minimum 5 years in Portugal as main residency (and more than 183days a year) AND you have to pass official portuguese language test to qualify too.

The technical side of getting a passport was not as interesting to me in this whole story as the question of how deep the adoption of bitcoin for the governments' own settlements can go. But here, unfortunately, judging by where the discussion is going, it turns out again that someone decided to use a popular topic for his own promotion, and there is nothing fundamentally new. It's a pity! I will still wait until large countries finally mature enough to officially include bitcoin in their foreign exchange reserves.
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Today at 08:27:48 PM

Even after more than a decade we haven't seen anything yet by orders of magnitude.
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Here is a crazy idea: RFK Jr (he recently said that most of his wealth is in bitcoin) as the SEC chair...that would be something.
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Today at 09:05:21 PM

Here's another dose of hopium by none other than Michael Saylor.

This time it's $10M/coin!

Michael Saylor: "Bitcoin is economic immortality"

I haven't watched it yet, but I'm posting it nonetheless—should be good entertainment.

Apologies if it has already been posted. Too busy IRL to read every post in these here parts.

You are not bullish enough.
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You are exactly right about 5 years before citizenship (plus a language test).
That said, the site says that you need to be in Portugal only 14 days every 2 years.
Basically, a one week vacation per year.



It's two different things.
I never heard anyone spending only 2 weeks every 2 years in Portugal and got the PT passeport. This is the minimum requirement for obtain/maintain the golden visa. It's not related to CITIZENSHIP.

To apply for citizenship, you have to be at least 5 years tax resident in Portugal and as a main residency. And OFC, you cannot qualify as tax resident there if you spend 1 week or even 2 months per year there.

If you buy a property, rent it out you get the tax history.

edit:you can also use the Portugal’s Non-Habitual Residence (NHR) Program

NOT  correct.
You mix different things.

If you buy a property by the golden visa or without, even if you rent it, It doesn't make up tax resident of PT. You have to pay tax on the rental investment you have yes (like in most countries, tax for real estate are based where the flat/house is located, not depending where you are tax resident). Also you can get many TIN numbers in many different countries, it DOESNT make you automatically tax resident there. You have to respect other criteria for that.

AND if you buy your house there (by investment) and just rent it, it's mean you just 'loose' the proof you have a permanent house in PT as i wouldn'be available for you at anytime (if rented). So your home country (or another ones if you have some/too many ties) can challenge you, and above the time spent there per year, according most of the DTTs, they look if you have permanent home available.

GOLDEN VISA / Tax residency and citizenship are 3 different things.

Moreover NHR statut is finished now. You cannot arrive now there and apply for it. People who has already the NHR are still granted for 10 years.

BUT you dont need NHR to get tax incentive of crypto capital gains. This is apply for ANY normal tax resident in Portugal, same way.

(PS : i am under NHR actually).





I dont mix two different things, you can buy a property and rent it out for 6 months, and then live it in the other 6 months to satisfy the residency of 6months in a year. Under permancy laws in the EU this counts as your permanent residence even if you rent it out, there is bylaws in place to handle situations where you might renting a room or a couple of rooms in your primary residence. It is a little in grey, but working with good lawyer and accountant will keep it above board, there is a bunch of rules you have to follow.

i didn't mention citizenship at all in my post so not sure why your bringing that up, you can be resident in any EU country but its not necessary to be a citizen of the country. Under the NHR your still not a citizen, i also thought the backdoor was still open to NHR through the digital nomad visa. I might be wrong though, fair play to being in this programs its definitely one the better ones in EU. Smiley

 
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Today at 10:03:39 PM

I personally hate this kind of declarations:

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸 Robert F. Kennedy Jr says he will sign an executive order for the US to buy 550 Bitcoin per day to build a reserve of 4 million BTC, if elected president.


Suddenly, Bitcoin as a national monetary reserve is a thing.
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Only 4 million BTC? My view is USA should aim to hold at least 21mil
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