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February 09, 2017, 04:54:04 PM
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Hi.
999dice entered its 4th year.People says it is scam & rolls are rigged.but no one is able to prove it.I am still waiting to see a proof.having bankroll or not that is different matter.bit where is proof of rigged rolls.

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February 09, 2017, 06:21:03 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948965 here's the proof you need.
But you don't have to read all that, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that you can't run a Bitcoin dice site with 0.1% house edge for 4 years.
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February 17, 2017, 02:40:30 AM
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Even though you show the proof that 999dice.com was rigging their rolls. There isn't anything that you could do about it because the whole fact that all Dice games are rigged in the very first place. If you have a public Blockchain transaction of every roll then you will see that pretty much every Dice site is rigging their rolls just not the same method of how 999dice.com does it.

The whole idea with those websites are how to get away with rigged rolls, the method of 999dice.com and the hash-switching is just another type of rigging. You could prove it but when you move onto another Dice site, you will probably lose anyhow unless the Dice website features a computer program that processes randomized number sequences before each roll.


I would stay away from 999dice.com because the rigging is pretty obvious as another user pointed of course.

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February 17, 2017, 03:00:44 AM
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Even though you show the proof that 999dice.com was rigging their rolls. There isn't anything that you could do about it because the whole fact that all Dice games are rigged in the very first place. If you have a public Blockchain transaction of every roll then you will see that pretty much every Dice site is rigging their rolls just not the same method of how 999dice.com does it.

The whole idea with those websites are how to get away with rigged rolls, the method of 999dice.com and the hash-switching is just another type of rigging. You could prove it but when you move onto another Dice site, you will probably lose anyhow unless the Dice website features a computer program that processes randomized number sequences before each roll.


I would stay away from 999dice.com because the rigging is pretty obvious as another user pointed of course.
I don't think so that all Dice site games are rigged and as a gambler you will definitely notice how fair is the site and you could really compare specially when you are already playing dice for a very long time. I didn't experience to play on 999dice site bbut seeing on the complaints on this site then itll probably a rigged site.

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February 17, 2017, 03:10:27 AM
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Hi.
999dice entered its 4th year.People says it is scam & rolls are rigged.but no one is able to prove it.I am still waiting to see a proof.having bankroll or not that is different matter.bit where is proof of rigged rolls.
Already read the link from emoclaw? If you didn't, read and write your opinion about that now. If you did, re-read again until you understand.
Why should another people waste their time and money to give your proof if 999dice is scam site? Who are you? Bill gates? Will you pay those people after they give you proofs you want? No, you won't. Isn't it? The valid proofs has been given by keepinquiet since long time ago
If you think 999dice is not scam & rigged, go play and lose your money on there. No one will force you to avoid that site.
I will qoute the best word from your admin, jake. When he scammed keepinquiet,
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If I see further deposits, they'll be seized. If they're on new/stealthy
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here isn't anything that you could do about it because the whole fact that all Dice games are rigged in the very first place.
~snip~
I see, BTCdragon is a rigged site too then

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February 17, 2017, 06:40:21 AM
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Even though you show the proof that 999dice.com was rigging their rolls. There isn't anything that you could do about it because the whole fact that all Dice games are rigged in the very first place. If you have a public Blockchain transaction of every roll then you will see that pretty much every Dice site is rigging their rolls just not the same method of how 999dice.com does it.

The whole idea with those websites are how to get away with rigged rolls, the method of 999dice.com and the hash-switching is just another type of rigging. You could prove it but when you move onto another Dice site, you will probably lose anyhow unless the Dice website features a computer program that processes randomized number sequences before each roll.


I would stay away from 999dice.com because the rigging is pretty obvious as another user pointed of course.
I don't think so that all Dice site games are rigged and as a gambler you will definitely notice how fair is the site and you could really compare specially when you are already playing dice for a very long time. I didn't experience to play on 999dice site bbut seeing on the complaints on this site then itll probably a rigged site.

It all depends on the website, check to see if they payout first and see if people give the company the cred within different forums and such.

If they payout then there shouldn't be an issue. Once they make a computer that does random inputs then it's game on.

Hi.
999dice entered its 4th year.People says it is scam & rolls are rigged.but no one is able to prove it.I am still waiting to see a proof.having bankroll or not that is different matter.bit where is proof of rigged rolls.
Already read the link from emoclaw? If you didn't, read and write your opinion about that now. If you did, re-read again until you understand.
Why should another people waste their time and money to give your proof if 999dice is scam site? Who are you? Bill gates? Will you pay those people after they give you proofs you want? No, you won't. Isn't it? The valid proofs has been given by keepinquiet since long time ago
If you think 999dice is not scam & rigged, go play and lose your money on there. No one will force you to avoid that site.
I will qoute the best word from your admin, jake. When he scammed keepinquiet,
Quote
*PLEASE MAKE NO FURTHER DEPOSITS*
I am glad to see that my email got through. My email provider was having
troubles all day. I was not sure that it had, because I saw your bets
pop back up in the chat room. There's a pending withdrawal of 7.3 BTC or
so, which I will release after clicking "Send" on this email.
If I see further deposits, they'll be seized. If they're on new/stealthy
accounts that you think I won't know about, they'll still be seized -
please don't test what you can get away with - you'll lose your money.
You have no remaining balances on your account - everything that is
yours will have been paid out within a couple minutes of this email
being sent. I wish you the best of luck earning back what you've lost -
but it will have to be elsewhere - not on this website.

Jake
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here isn't anything that you could do about it because the whole fact that all Dice games are rigged in the very first place.
~snip~
I see, BTCdragon is a rigged site too then

Well to answer your question very shortly numanoid, I did mention that all Dice Games are rigged -BTCDragon features a variety of betting games (non dice). Slots or number games.

I am not stating that BTCDragon has a 100% randomized number sequence yet there is a huge thread that features people earning money and receiving their withdrawal payouts from BTCDragon.com for weeks.

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https://forums.burst-team.us/topic/3307/ann-btcdragon-casino-asset/390

Please don't twist what I write. BTCDragon.com is legit as far as the payout goes.

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February 17, 2017, 06:44:24 AM
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Please don't twist what I write. BTCDragon.com is legit as far as the payout goes.
So ALL Dice sites are rigged, except the one that you advertise for/the one that is paying you?
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February 17, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
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Hi.
999dice entered its 4th year.People says it is scam & rolls are rigged.but no one is able to prove it.I am still waiting to see a proof.having bankroll or not that is different matter.bit where is proof of rigged rolls.

Well sometimes people really don't mean such things because they tend to make that website a laughing stock of what the website did to them but its their own fault because the website itself hasn't been a scam it has lasted for years they only tell story for what they have lost and they are jut unlucky and they blame it on the website that they played in so that they will be their lost money back -_- that's not really what a true gambler is a true gambler accepts defeat and learn things on that state Cheesy 
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March 05, 2017, 12:33:23 AM
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all provably fair sites are rigged.
the entire concept of provably fair is gamed.

999dice is shit, but i've just walked away with 47ETH from initially putting down 5ETH.
pick of the draw.

ive noticed of late, satoshidice hasnt given out many wins at all.

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all provably fair sites are rigged.
the entire concept of provably fair is gamed.
Right... so they've figured out how to crack SHA256/SHA512 then? If that were the case, I'm sure they wouldn't need to "steal" 0.05 BTC off someone gambling on a dice site Tongue

The provably fair system, when implemented correctly, is exactly that... provably fair.

I can see the hash for the next server seed... I can then confirm after the bet happens that the server seed for the roll matches that hash (and can't be changed unless you've found a way to crack SHA256). I can also see my own client seed (or chose my own if I want) and then do all the tricky maths... and confirm the results generated.

What everyone is forgetting is that "provably fair" does not guarantee wins... or loses... just that you can prove that the site is not cheating on the roll outcomes...

The casino works with the house edge... they don't need to cheat on the rolls Wink




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Here's a new original mirror to enter the site 999dice
https://ru.999dice.com or http://supier999.ddns.net
Last night there was an update and a new link for the entrance changed. Just do not blogodorite! Grin
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all provably fair sites are rigged.
the entire concept of provably fair is gamed.
Right... so they've figured out how to crack SHA256/SHA512 then? If that were the case, I'm sure they wouldn't need to "steal" 0.05 BTC off someone gambling on a dice site Tongue

The provably fair system, when implemented correctly, is exactly that... provably fair.

I can see the hash for the next server seed... I can then confirm after the bet happens that the server seed for the roll matches that hash (and can't be changed unless you've found a way to crack SHA256). I can also see my own client seed (or chose my own if I want) and then do all the tricky maths... and confirm the results generated.

What everyone is forgetting is that "provably fair" does not guarantee wins... or loses... just that you can prove that the site is not cheating on the roll outcomes...

The casino works with the house edge... they don't need to cheat on the rolls Wink





Good answer. They also have the psychological edge since the house has no real feelings or regret. The house will win in the long time. When s player plays and keeps playing all his balance will be gone eventually so the house edge sometimes doesn't even matter because many people are greedy and play untill nothing is left even after winning several times. Some people just don't know when to stop.

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