He is a guy with nice personality. But claiming Crypto is dead end and seeing the only bright future in Western Union and Paypal and at same time spend hours everyday here, makes him look like an idiot or a lier.
A gross exaggeration and unfounded claims yet again.
And would you like to tell everyone the REAL reason you are posting against me here ?
I will give you a hint people..
That NOOB who he or she is apparently knows crypto well .... with 2 posts here.
Anyway that Puppet-Account claimed all i ever post is Monero FUD.
Lies ? this again ? I keep saying point it out.. let's see my grand collection of lies i post "all the time"
Now lets put this into perspective again.. Febo ?
he is.
Either he is lying or claimed to knew virtually nothing about the history of Monero and it's well known shills.
I confronted him about a few things and all he could do was claim it was lie(s).. then he forced me to prove it over and over then would back track and try and make excuses.
So i was curious why in gods name would someone show up here and do no research then end up defending Monero on every topic 24/7 while at the same time knowing virtually nothing about it ?
Monero is surrounded by lying idiots projecting their skeletons in their closet onto others.
They use a pile of accounts here to Troll and attack people and accuse others of what they have been doing.
They have an insane little cult of followers that have 0 interest in looking at the facts.
They chant Lies and FUD then rail on with it all here.. 24/7.
It was those assholes that hijacked this topic with a dummy account about Monero.
You claim i ONLY talk about it and i answered back.
Then you imply it was unwarranted so i provided a few reasons why Monero deserves "FUD"
Next yet more shills show up claiming vague lies.
You shitheads follow me around insulting me, calling me names, accusing me of things then refuse to back it up then claim you have me on ignore.. hijacking topics.. then claiming the problem is someone else.
..implying I am a Dash supporter of course.
If the fans of Dash create drama i will ride their ass too.
And contrary to the accusations i am not involved with Dash or have ever had a Dash coin in my life.. nor will i.
No problem fair is fair.. just keep it real.
Lies ? If i didn't provide proof ahead of time i can later.
So here is some more to back up my mouth.. IRC chat log via PM from IRC.
(Note: He invited me to the Monero IRC channel where they insta-banned me for life.. which is also logged)
Session Start: Sun Jun 26 07:28:36 2016
Session Ident: Febo
[07:28] Session Ident: Febo (freenode, Spoetnik) (Febo@--snipped--)
[07:28] <Febo> hai
14[07:29] <Spoetnik> I'd rather talk publicly eh and hi
[07:29] <Febo> I think this is so strange you can talk publicly latter
[07:29] <Febo> ther eis guy named davidlaplate on monero irc
[07:30] <Febo> and he uses same net provider as you do
[07:31] <Febo> i thoght you are duch he is franceh
14[07:31] <Spoetnik> Febo you know i am not David Latapie LOL
[07:32] <Febo> i suspect so
[07:32] <Febo> but not sure now
[07:32] <Febo> join monero irc and chacek
14[07:32] <Spoetnik> You pm'd me at Bitcointalk mentioning teh guy liek last year or so roughly
14[07:32] <Spoetnik> ya and have them ban me ? LOL
[07:32] <Febo> davidlatapie clcik on him and select Whois
14[07:32] <Spoetnik> liek Etehreum did ahhahah
[07:32] <Febo> ?
[07:33] <Febo> oh
14[07:33] <Spoetnik> You can see my proivider ? i am cloaked eh
[07:33] <Febo> nooen wil bane you dont worry
[07:33] <Febo> i have no ideas
[07:33] <Febo> it says same for both
14[07:33] <Spoetnik> he is prob cloaked too
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik is ~Spoetnik@unaffiliated/spoetnik * ...
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik on #Cryptsy
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik using wilhelm.freenode.net FR
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik is logged in as Spoetnik
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik End of /WHOIS list.
14[07:33] <Spoetnik> you know what that means right ?
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is sid76186@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyqwmrehtijojwkd * David Latapie
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie on #monero #monero-dev
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie using wilhelm.freenode.net FR
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is away: Auto-away
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is using a secure connection
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is logged in as davidlatapie
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie End of /WHOIS list.
[07:33] <Febo> no i dont
[07:34] <Febo> but
14[07:34] <Spoetnik> which it says is random ..90% of peoepl just hit connect tehn you get a random server
[07:34] <Febo> Febo is Febo@--snipped-- * ...
[07:34] <Febo> Febo on #monero #monero-dev
[07:34] <Febo> Febo using rajaniemi.freenode.net Helsinki, FI, EU
[07:34] <Febo> Febo is connecting from *@--snipped--
[07:34] <Febo> Febo has been idle 23mins 4secs, signed on Sun Jun 26 13:45:01 2016
[07:34] <Febo> Febo is logged in as Febo
[07:34] <Febo> Febo End of /WHOIS list.
[07:34] <Febo> yes posible
[07:34] <Febo> i am nto from helsinki
[07:34] <Febo> but i am nto cloaked
14[07:34] <Spoetnik> that is the user ip + server IP connected to eh
[07:35] <Febo> first line matters
14[07:35] <Spoetnik> my private IP is hidden
14[07:35] <Spoetnik> my server is random when connecting
[07:35] <Febo> so you are for anonimity i guess
14[07:35] <Spoetnik> i am from Canada but have Dutch grand parents
[07:35] <Febo> gut
[07:35] <Febo> Canada is waste
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> i figured if i am on IRC i might as well make it harder for Trolls to coem after me LOL
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> by getting cloaked
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> i have doennothing else to be anon
[07:36] <Febo> you ahave all right, altho what you dont want to haeppen to you you shoudl not do to others.
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> agreed
[07:37] <Febo> lol
14[07:37] <Spoetnik> and don't make it easy for them LOL
14[07:37] <Spoetnik> lock your door
[07:37] <Febo> yes, actualy this net shit is scary.
[07:37] <Febo> i had no idessd how can trace peopel before joined bitcointalk
[07:38] <Febo> and pictures and deleted forum postst, ...
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> you should get cloaked if you are on IRC a lot eh
[07:38] <Febo> why lol
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> if they want o get your IP they still can but..
[07:38] <Febo> what woudl happen if someoen know my IP?
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> at least youa r ento making it too easy for "them"
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> i don't know DDOS you ?
[07:38] <Febo> i use IRC for games
[07:38] <Febo> lol
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> soem hackers have botnets eh
[07:39] <Febo> steal my comp. yes lol.
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> naw
[07:39] <Febo> is slow but also 4 years old.
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> block you from using the internet
[07:39] <Febo> so they dont get much
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> you get flooded
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> you know how to get cloaked ?
[07:39] <Febo> yes is posible so i wil be abel to do soem houseworks
[07:39] <Febo> no i dont
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> LOL house work
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> i do my share too
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> esepcially when the internet is nto working LOL
[07:40] <Febo> it is wize to hide identity so peopel liek you dont chase you. taht is all.
[07:40] <Febo> i am nto afraid of flooding or ddsos
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> all you do is go to the main freenode channel and then ask them nicely
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> just say "can you pelase cloak me, thanks"
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> that is it.. done
[07:41] <Febo> realy?
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> yup
[07:41] <Febo> but i mostly dont use freenode
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> #Freenode
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> connect..
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> ask.. wait.. done
[07:41] <Febo> i will ask soem IRC pros about it
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> ofcourse you need yoru name registered though eh
[07:41] <Febo> games i paly mostly use Rizon
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> ahh ok
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> ya diff network system
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> diff type of IRC
[07:42] <Febo> i am here only for monero chanel and was on eth when coudl not set mist valet
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> i don't do IRC much eh
[07:42] <Febo> but nooen helped there anyway.
[07:42] <Febo> is ancient technology
[07:42] <Febo> lol
[07:42] <Febo> i used it long ago.
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> no.. no one ever has any help on ETH channel i noticed
[07:43] <Febo> then when started play oen game few years ago teh ysaid we have irc chanels i said. wtf
[07:43] <Febo> before we used msn or skype
[07:43] <Febo> yes
[07:43] <Febo> is diference. devs tehre get paid
[07:44] <Febo> well my problem was i did nto had snced my internet time. it dont auto i have no ideas. took me half year to figure out.
[07:44] <Febo> thatsi what i liekd of Monero
[07:45] <Febo> people help.
[07:45] <Febo> buti am sure is also at other coins.
14[07:46] <Spoetnik> Well the guys involved with making & pushing Monero have been a problem sometimes going back 2 years
14[07:46] <Spoetnik> I takle it you did not help LAUNCH Monero ?
[07:46] <Febo> no
[07:46] <Febo> i joined bitcontalk forum about that time
14[07:46] <Spoetnik> well Monero has been out 2 years or so eh
[07:46] <Febo> and after few weeks found altcoins part and picked monero
[07:47] <Febo> and mined it a bit with cpu so not realy. mined liek 10 in half year
[07:47] <Febo> yes
14[07:47] <Spoetnik> well you know they called it Bytecoin then forgot there already was a Bytecoin out right ?
[07:47] <Febo> i know all of Monero, well at least what is out of sea.
[07:47] <Febo> bitmonero
14[07:48] <Spoetnik> You get what i said ?
[07:48] <Febo> i play games seriously so i learn.
[07:48] <Febo> no i di dnot it seems
[07:48] <Febo> when i foundmonero was allready monero
14[07:48] <Spoetnik> they started with that name first..
14[07:48] <Spoetnik> then chanegd names later..
[07:49] <Febo> that guy that lounched it namet is bitmonero
[07:49] <Febo> after a month was changed
[07:49] <Febo> you ever were on that cryptonote forum?
14[07:49] <Spoetnik> it was also a commuity take over
[07:49] <Febo> yes
14[07:49] <Spoetnik> nope.. never
[07:49] <Febo> since taht guy did nto talk
14[07:50] <Spoetnik> Community take over is always suspicous
[07:50] <Febo> i was posting misives there some time
[07:50] <Febo> since that guy did not cooperate
[07:50] <Febo> they wait for him on IRC but he never showed up
14[07:50] <Spoetnik> isn't it funny he never commented again after that ?
[07:50] <Febo> as i understand they suspect he was part of Bytecoin and those Cryptonote
[07:50] <Febo> tehy aparentyl lounched more coins
[07:51] <Febo> like that hmm
[07:51] <Febo> Q
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> wouldn't it seem more lieley the dev simply changed names ? LOL
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> likely*
[07:51] <Febo> as i said
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> people DO that..
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> You kno wmy big problem with Monero ?
[07:52] <Febo> guy that started bitmonero coudl be of taht group
[07:52] <Febo> your problem is Risto
[07:52] <Febo> if you have problem
[07:52] <Febo> or you just want to have fun anoy people
14[07:52] <Spoetnik> well oen i don't think ANON is a good idea.. but there is a bigger problem
14[07:52] <Spoetnik> Honesty
[07:52] <Febo> but
[07:53] <Febo> who is more honest then Flufypony?
[07:53] <Febo> of devs
14[07:53] <Spoetnik> in 2 years they HAVE at tiem sbeen guilty of not so good behavior.. but.. They will NEVER admit it !
14[07:53] <Spoetnik> Do you see what i mean ?
[07:53] <Febo> smooth is starnge
[07:53] <Febo> guilty of what and who?
14[07:53] <Spoetnik> if they could say ok look.. we made a few mistakes and we promise to chanbeg i would never bug them again
[07:53] <Febo> developers of Monero is wide thingy.
[07:54] <Febo> this so caled core team are mainly juts managers.
[07:54] <Febo> they dont code
[07:54] <Febo> they just organize what need to be coded.
14[07:54] <Spoetnik> if you have made some mistakes in crypto you can not pretend your record is perfect / flawless
[07:54] <Febo> Again is how i understand.
[07:55] <Febo> there are just random peopel who know how to code and just do it.
[07:55] <Febo>
[07:55] <Febo> noone say is flawless
14[07:55] <Spoetnik> people don't get it.. like you i think.
14[07:55] <Spoetnik> I have seen them with their hand in the cookie jar
[07:55] <Febo> Moneor is far from perfect
14[07:55] <Spoetnik> then they deny it
[07:56] <Febo> all cryto is manipulated
[07:56] <Febo> Monero shoudl eb way more, but high emision prevented that
14[07:56] <Spoetnik> they spent 2 years pretending thier record is perfect though always denying anything slightly negative
[07:56] <Febo> mny who were fiercfull suporters 2 years ago thought they will be abel to pump and dump it but saw they coudl not and left.
14[07:56] <Spoetnik> FOr exampel if a millionair eis involved then don;t hide it..
14[07:57] <Spoetnik> You see hwat i am saying ?
14[07:57] <Spoetnik> sorry i can't type too good
[07:57] <Febo> what milioanre?
14[07:57] <Spoetnik> Risto / reptiela
[07:57] <Febo> if few peopel hold to much coins?
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> he is RICH
[07:58] <Febo> i bet he is.
[07:58] <Febo> well at least he say he is
[07:58] <Febo> he might not be erealy but who knows
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> seen a pic of him and his castle + bentley ?
[07:58] <Febo> he is not stupid t put all egs in one bag
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> he put his Bitcointalk user name in the photos
[07:58] <Febo> some was at his castle
[07:58] <Febo> but that castele falls apart mostly
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> ya.. millionaire
[07:58] <Febo> yes
[07:59] <Febo> i played cryptokingdom
[07:59] <Febo> he is a computer lol
[07:59] <Febo> i was one of first players, fdi dnot log half year all my wealth wil be sold by managers to keep me alive lol
14[07:59] <Spoetnik> he spent somewhere around $200,000 buying Monero when BTC was close to $900 bucks each
[07:59] <Febo> if i di dnto fdied yet and they divided my gold
[07:59] <Febo> how you knwo that?
[08:00] <Febo> i am not sure
14[08:00] <Spoetnik> he said it himself on the forum waaaay back
[08:00] <Febo> 900
14[08:00] <Spoetnik> and thatwa swonly the start LOL
[08:00] <Febo> when i buy monero i bought btc at $650
14[08:00] <Spoetnik> i bet anything he continued to keep buying more for 2 years
[08:00] <Febo> and i did 2 years ago or 25 months
[08:01] <Febo> so what he said was nto true.
[08:01] <Febo> he bought before me
14[08:01] <Spoetnik> He DID admit to making donations on ocasion and i seen the comments from him saying it too
[08:01] <Febo> i dont think he is bigest monero holder
[08:01] <Febo> but he know who are top holder
14[08:01] <Spoetnik> i don't know but i bet he has lots hahahahah
[08:01] <Febo> taht si what he was doing first half year
[08:01] <Febo> yes he have
14[08:02] <Spoetnik> he invested a LOT of money Febo
[08:02] <Febo> well we cant say i think he have
14[08:02] <Spoetnik> $200,000 usd worth
[08:02] <Febo> maybe a lto for you and me but not for him or fro other top10 Monero holders
14[08:02] <Spoetnik> you have a quarter million dollars laying around to spend ?
[08:02] <Febo> lol
[08:02] <Febo> i have in some bank but not mine yt. but i need to get gun first
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> Do you understand why people are cautious when a coin is driven by a whale who is a millionaire ?
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> LOL gun
[08:03] <Febo> Monero is way more then Risto
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> not the point though
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> he has been a part of it all for 2 years
[08:03] <Febo> No i mean there are biger holders tehn him
[08:03] <Febo> yes
[08:04] <Febo> they were in from start
[08:04] <Febo> but they are smart and dont stand out
[08:04] <Febo> there is already 12 milion moneros
[08:04] <Febo> 2 years were pumping out
[08:04] <Febo> nothing wil stop Monero growth
14[08:04] <Spoetnik> What would you do if a bag holder rich guy decides to dump all at once any minute ?
14[08:05] <Spoetnik> You would be broke instantly !
[08:05] <Febo> onyl thing that bothers me was that i bougt them 2 years ago and not 1 or half year ago when they were cheap
[08:05] <Febo> no
14[08:05] <Spoetnik> You would not be able to get to Poloniex to dump too quick enough before the price crashed
[08:05] <Febo> the rate woudl be low. and somoen woudl buy cheap ones.
14[08:05] <Spoetnik> i have seen it happen many time sbefore
[08:05] <Febo> i dotn need to sell them tomorrow.
[08:06] <Febo> i dotn trade
[08:06] <Febo> i shoudl sometimes could make profit, but culd also make loss.
14[08:06] <Spoetnik> you see the power those top bag holders have though ?
[08:06] <Febo> those that claim they can onyl make profit lie
[08:06] <Febo> yes
[08:06] <Febo> but is same in all coins with big diference
[08:06] <Febo> they paid Moneros expencive
[08:07] <Febo> you said Rist bought btc at 900
14[08:07] <Spoetnik> i seen a hacker on Cryptsy exploit he POINTS market.. know what the points are there ?
[08:07] <Febo> and moneros at liek 0.002
[08:07] <Febo> so count how much $ he paid for one. he wil not dump them at lower price.
[08:08] <Febo> no i did not trade there.
14[08:08] <Spoetnik> We all watched as the guy got a LOT of points and he sold them all off non stop
14[08:08] <Spoetnik> in one 20 minute session he drove the prce from liek 0.0020000 sats' to 0.00000004
14[08:08] <Spoetnik> that is hwat whale can do anytime they want..
14[08:09] <Spoetnik> that triggers anarachy LOL
[08:09] <Febo> i am sureRisto trades. so he dont just hold, but i dont know. I am not worried of whales in Monero. I am onyl worried that they dont put soem of taht money in marketing. I hope they wait for GUI. But manbe are so stupid that they just give a shit.
[08:09] <Febo> Yes
[08:09] <Febo> it makes weak hands to sell
[08:10] <Febo> when monero was at 0.0001 i also had no will to buy any.
14[08:10] <Spoetnik> i see you are optimistic but are you respecting the risk & dangers involved in this stuff ?
[08:10] <Febo> when gets to 0.0004 i woudl buy
[08:10] <Febo> lol
[08:10] <Febo> i am gambler.
[08:10] <Febo> but not big enought to do daytrades
[08:10] <Febo> lol
14[08:10] <Spoetnik> have a wallet full of coisn that were delisted ?
14[08:10] <Spoetnik> i have more than 1 LOL
[08:10] <Febo> risk i see is that is soemthing technicly wrong
[08:11] <Febo> i dont own much conis
[08:11] <Febo> i actualy only have monero, and few other tiny amount of other coins taht just ended up on my poloniex acount
[08:11] <Febo>
14[08:11] <Spoetnik> i can name 3 coisn i had that got delisted everywhere
[08:11] <Febo> i am nto rich
[08:12] <Febo> why you bought them?
14[08:12] <Spoetnik> CryptoBits, JackpotCoin, CENT
[08:12] <Febo> why?
14[08:12] <Spoetnik> well not really i never invested a cent ..
[08:12] <Febo> dont spend money for coins you cone
[08:12] <Febo> yes
[08:12] <Febo> you got them as promotion
14[08:12] <Spoetnik> it happens for a few reason sbut it does happen a lot !
[08:12] <Febo> if you di dnto paid anything for them and others also di dnto paid anything for them, why woudl be of any worth?
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> i satrted mining in mid 2013 with an old crappy PC eh
[08:13] <Febo> when i pay 1$ i expect to sell at 1$
[08:13] <Febo> is simple
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> a core 2 duo e7500 CPU and an NVidia 550
[08:13] <Febo> i wonder what wil happen with bitcrystals
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> it took me a month+ to get 1 LTC
[08:13] <Febo> that is coin i also have. is nto realy a coin.
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> i did not go to my bank then take that to buy altcoins
[08:14] <Febo> i mined onyl monero
14[08:14] <Spoetnik> i then took that 1 LTC and i traded my way up so i had a bigger portfolio
[08:14] <Febo> liek 10 maybe
14[08:14] <Spoetnik> i got up to about $12,000 then cahed it all out & spent the money
[08:15] <Febo> realy?
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> 0 cents invested
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> yup i have the BTC wallets records still LOL
[08:15] <Febo> why you dont do it still?
[08:15] <Febo> but i think you were just lucky
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> i seen back when Doge got popualr BTC starting to crash & too much cloning in ALT's
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> i knew it was tiem to get out ASAP !
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> lucky ?
[08:16] <Febo> yes coudl go otherway
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> i turned 0 cents into 1 cent then 1 cent into 2 cents
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> it was a LOOOOOT of hard work man
[08:16] <Febo> you said you gained 1222k $ from nothing
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> yup
[08:16] <Febo> yes also work but still
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> no luck involved man
[08:16] <Febo> yes it is
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> i had to fight for it and it took prob 5/6 months
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> no it was trading skill
[08:17] <Febo> well i fought hard playing games last 10 years
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> i went down soemtimes a little then fuight my way backl learning lessons
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> fought*
[08:17] <Febo> it loosk simple
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> learning hwo to trade
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> it was not easy
[08:17] <Febo> but you can easiyl lose also
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> not really i have more skill than others
[08:17] <Febo> nooen expected what wil hapepen with eth and dao
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> i am th eone who tuned 1 penny into 12 grand bud
[08:18] <Febo> it influenced all alts
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> i also never was a bag hodler
[08:18] <Febo> but at end all coudl earn with buying it at right time
[08:18] <Febo> i had 8 ETH and sold them at 0.018
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> i never sat on any altcoisn fro any long period of time
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> AKA: being abag holder
[08:18] <Febo> so if i buy now back wil have tiny loss
[08:18] <Febo> i do
[08:18] <Febo> on Monero
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> that si the most risky way to trade of all !
[08:19] <Febo> big bag for me, small bag fro most others
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> i woudl not even bag hold Bitcoin
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> whcih is why i sold them off..
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> glad i did too.. i sodl them at 1k each KNOWIng it was going to drop hard
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> i sodl when others were saying 10k is coming
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> speaking of that..
[08:20] <Febo> yes is hard to do it.
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> you kow Risto decalred BTC woudl go to a million per coin ?
[08:20] <Febo> maybe it will
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> he is that nuts LOL
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> coem on you think that is even possible really ?
[08:20] <Febo> he is actualy realy smart
[08:21] <Febo> i mean he is like computer
14[08:21] <Spoetnik> ya i think so..
[08:21] <Febo> i woudl never go play chees with him
14[08:21] <Spoetnik> excentric guy LOL
[08:21] <Febo> that game he made, he made so much progress daily like 10 peopel work it.
[08:21] <Febo> but after a year i saw it will fail since is way to complex
[08:22] <Febo> peopel like simple games liek will be Spells of genesiss.
[08:22] <Febo> no coder can keep with his ideas.
[08:22] <Febo> he aded new game modul weekly
[08:23] <Febo> Not sure hwo is now i was not on IRC for half year or read his thread.
14[08:23] <Spoetnik> I can't type at all eh
[08:23] <Febo> wut
14[08:23] <Spoetnik> lately i have as mall PC screen too which makes it way harder too
14[08:23] <Spoetnik> my typing skill is super bad
[08:24] <Febo> i mix letters.
[08:24] <Febo> constantly
[08:24] <Febo> liek let is lte
14[08:24] <Spoetnik> so ire type stuff lots and it gets tiring
[08:24] <Febo> not sure why. i think is soem disease.
14[08:24] <Spoetnik> duslexic ?
[08:24] <Febo> maybe
14[08:24] <Spoetnik> dyslexic
[08:25] <Febo> well i was never diagnosed, but somoen said that to me once.
14[08:25] <Spoetnik> that measn you read things backwards though eh
[08:25] <Febo> to lazy to read about
14[08:25] <Spoetnik> me i put vowels in wrong place..
[08:25] <Febo> but actualy any disease i read about i then suspect i have it
14[08:25] <Spoetnik> i don;lt hit my kets on keyboard properly
[08:25] <Febo> hmm
[08:25] <Febo> well then there is also spelling
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> i have the too-large-penis syndrome
[08:26] <Febo> but you said you are canadian, so you knwo english
[08:26] <Febo> lol
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> all the girls feel sorry for me LOL
14[08:26] <Spoetnik>
[08:26] <Febo> i mix when is double ll
[08:26] <Febo> or put v instead of w
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> any time i see a comment i made at Bitcointalk is ee more misatkes in spelling
[08:26] <Febo> hmm
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> i am correcting some right now
[08:26] <Febo> maybe you are just more cautious
14[08:27] <Spoetnik> i have no excuse..i am not French LOL
[08:27] <Febo> we have that thingy that underline misspelings?
14[08:27] <Spoetnik> i only know English hahahha
[08:27] <Febo> Canadians re half french
14[08:27] <Spoetnik> ahh yeah i got that on Firefox but i still make mistakes
14[08:28] <Spoetnik> not me Febo
[08:28] <Febo> i know
[08:28] <Febo> is just Quebec
14[08:28] <Spoetnik> not many French oens on WEst side in BC Canada
[08:28] <Febo> i love history
14[08:28] <Spoetnik> they all on East in Quebec etc
[08:29] <Febo> hw many times you were baned?
[08:29] <Febo> from bitcointalk
14[08:29] <Spoetnik> 3 ?
[08:29] <Febo> lol
[08:30] <Febo> once i remeber
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> prob a day or 2 twice then 30 days once a year ago..
[08:30] <Febo> you were gone soem tiem but got back quite fast i even made topic about it.
[08:30] <Febo> i was for liek half year
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> well i barley commented at all last summer
[08:30] <Febo> send teymos liek 30 mails
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> had my internet cut off
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> i cancelled it to move but never moved rigth away
[08:30] <Febo> he unbaned me on day when that on redit coem out
[08:31] <Febo> btc fork
[08:31] <Febo> well how much mb shoudl one block have.
[08:32] <Febo> i guess since everyoen was how dicrator he is he started unbaning those he baned
14[08:35] <Spoetnik> i need to go out soon & get rfesh air i think
[08:35] <Febo> gooo
14[08:35] <Spoetnik> my ass hurts sitting on PC too long
14[08:36] <Spoetnik> i like Mountain Bike riding eh
14[08:36] <Spoetnik> healthy for you + i smoke
[08:37] <Febo> hmm
[08:37] <Febo> i have mountains
[08:37] <Febo> but to lazzy
14[08:37] <Spoetnik> i'm lazy too LOL
[08:38] <Febo> and brother was all in that so have milion godo bikes also
14[08:38] <Spoetnik> Bike riding is my only healthy thing
[08:38] <Febo> he was in BMX and downhill
[08:38] <Febo> and latter in quads
[08:38] <Febo> those 4 whells
[08:38] <Febo> even in national team.
14[08:38] <Spoetnik> sounds like work LOL
[08:38] <Febo> altho was way over 35 then.
[08:39] <Febo> yes
[08:39] <Febo> he trianed hard. lol
14[08:39] <Spoetnik> i am 40 years old
[08:39] <Febo> now few years stopped.
[08:39] <Febo> i am close he is now a bit ower you
14[08:39] <Spoetnik> time goes by FAST !
[08:39] <Febo> yes
14[08:40] <Spoetnik> Bitcoin = 7 yrs old already
14[08:40] <Spoetnik> a decade is not far away WOW!
[08:40] <Febo> almost
[08:40] <Febo> november
[08:40] <Febo> or started in jan?
[08:41] <Febo> november was white paper pulished i think
14[08:41] <Spoetnik> not sure
[08:41] <Febo> i should be
[08:41] <Febo> 31 oct actualy
[08:41] <Febo> it started on 1 jan
14[08:41] <Spoetnik> So feel free to tell the other Monero supporters.. just be honest about stuff
14[08:41] <Spoetnik> if they do that then they have not very many problems LOL
[08:41] <Febo> tell what?
[08:42] <Febo> i think the dont have many problems
[08:42] <Febo> there are many that dont liek Monero
[08:42] <Febo> other curencies
[08:42] <Febo> specialy dash
[08:42] <Febo> we all thought main FUDErs are bytecoin
14[08:42] <Spoetnik> Liek David Latapie should go on Bitcointalk and explain in detail what happened way back for example
[08:43] <Febo> we all thought that bytcoin and that Cryptonote group are same
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> well yeahh of course.. dash
[08:43] <Febo> lol
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> duh man LOL
[08:43] <Febo> he posted on monero forum taht he dont have time for Monero
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> of course they FUD'ing you with any thing they can think of
[08:43] <Febo> you posted his psot
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> well his comment was SUPER vage !
[08:43] <Febo> he shoudl psost again same?
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> it did not say anyuthing really just an apology
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> no.. detaisl man
[08:44] <Febo> i even send you PM expalining you how i as monero comunity understadn what he said.
[08:44] <Febo> but you then understadn me totaly diferent
[08:44] <Febo> as you usuayl do.
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> you can't expect peopel in crypto to take yoru word for things
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> we don;t trust each other LOL
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> he is the guy taht should speak
14[08:45] <Spoetnik> the*
[08:45] <Febo> why woudl anyone care what he needs to do. he can go mountainbike riding
14[08:45] <Spoetnik> he rides bikes too liek me ?
[08:45] <Febo> he just said taht we shoudl nto count mmuch on him anymore. mabye he wil come back tomorow. who knows.
[08:45] <Febo> i am sure he stil belive Monero will flourish
[08:45] <Febo> i dont know
[08:45] <Febo> lol
[08:45] <Febo> maybe
14[08:45] <Spoetnik> well it has been 2 years adn nothing much has chanegd adoption wise Febo
[08:45] <Febo> i dont care what he does
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> Febo it's not about you
[08:46] <Febo> in adoption of anything did nto happen much but did some.
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> Dash used it as ammo buddy
[08:46] <Febo> yes
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> get it ?
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> So it does not matter if Dave explaine dto you
[08:46] <Febo> dash are who hate monero most
[08:46] <Febo> David explained to all Monero comunity on Monero forum
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> it's the info that needs to be put out so Dash does not have FUD ammo on you guys
[08:47] <Febo> eh
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> see what i mean ?
[08:47] <Febo> it is all there
[08:47] <Febo> he said it all
[08:47] <Febo> he posted all
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> nohe said nothing
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> he was vague
[08:47] <Febo> he did
[08:47] <Febo> he said he dont have time anymore to help with Monero
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> he never did explainwhat happened
[08:47] <Febo> why he need that?
[08:48] <Febo> he did nto sighn contract
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> Police ?
[08:48] <Febo> police?
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> he mentioend fraud and stolen Bitcoin..
[08:48] <Febo> why he need to explain why he dont want to help monero anymore?
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> i just told you
[08:48] <Febo> i dont recall that
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> DASH
[08:48] <Febo> dash are pro yes
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> he is not being open & hoenst
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> and it's nto just dash either
[08:49] <Febo> i dont realy care of him
[08:49] <Febo> yes
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> it's abotu all of crypto who deserve or want to know
[08:49] <Febo> there are more coins afraid of Monero
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> anyoen out there who may be looking at teh Moenro situation wodnering can i trust tehse guys
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> so hiding *most* of the story fromthe public looks bad..
[08:49] <Febo> no need to trust David if he left lol
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> you still don't get it LOL
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> him leaving makes no difference
[08:50] <Febo> who is managing most i see is flufypony
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> we don't trust you fo one thing
[08:50] <Febo> i asked smooth about monero card for Spells of gennesis. he di dnothing lol
[08:50] <Febo> gives a shit
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> all aguy ahs to do is create a new name
[08:50] <Febo> yes
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> you give a shit Febo if you want Moenro to succeed
[08:50] <Febo> i do
14[08:51] <Spoetnik> the peanut gallery at Bitcointalk make or break your coin
14[08:52] <Spoetnik> It's not about me or just Dash gusy but all ofo th epeopel who read topci sat Bitcointalk
[08:52] <Febo> i asked spells of geneseis what is needed for Monero card they said Ok we wil do it just link us i di dand nothing happened. smooth if to bussy could just give me green light to organize myself.
[08:52] <Febo> eh
[08:52] <Febo> bitcointalk dont have so much influence
14[08:52] <Spoetnik> it's been 2 years with Monero Febo..
[08:52] <Febo> but still dasj is curently in lead.
[08:52] <Febo> yes
14[08:52] <Spoetnik> noit much has changed Adoption wise
[08:53] <Febo> problem is Monero outside have little
[08:53] <Febo> yes
[08:53] <Febo> bitcointalk is not so important
[08:53] <Febo> googel monero
14[08:53] <Spoetnik> I would have to ask why ?
[08:53] <Febo> and google dash
[08:53] <Febo> we dotn have marketing
[08:53] <Febo> and tthose with lots coins dont care about it
[08:53] <Febo> why?
14[08:53] <Spoetnik> We all know nobody but Crypto-Nerd into this stuff heavily are going to knwo abotu Dash or Monero
[08:53] <Febo> maybe they just want to buy more at lover price.
[08:54] <Febo> but is starnge since they might allready have lots.
14[08:54] <Spoetnik> Crypto-Nerds do NOT matter.. the general public does
[08:54] <Febo> yes
[08:54] <Febo> but dash is in huge lead
[08:54] <Febo> they have 1 huge bagholder.
[08:54] <Febo> he spend money to pormote it
14[08:54] <Spoetnik> i would say Dash is still just a niche thing on Bitcointalk though like all ALtcoins
[08:55] <Febo> we have few smaler bag holders that mainly give a shit
14[08:55] <Spoetnik> You have to break out fromt heh Forumn adn conquer the world outside
[08:55] <Febo> i mean out of bitcointalk
[08:55] <Febo> yes
[08:55] <Febo> right now goggle both
14[08:55] <Spoetnik> forum users do not matter they are nto supporters
[08:55] <Febo> check youtube
[08:55] <Febo> monero
[08:55] <Febo> dash
[08:55] <Febo> you wil see diference
14[08:55] <Spoetnik> they are profiteers looking to dump your coins for profit
[08:55] <Febo> dash sponsor diferent podcasts
[08:56] <Febo> i dont know.
14[08:56] <Spoetnik> well that is a start i guess
[08:56] <Febo> Monero also have lack of manpower
[08:56] <Febo> it looks we are many but i dont think.
14[08:56] <Spoetnik> If you can't break out of Bictointalk then what is the point ?
[08:56] <Febo> core team focus on tech
14[08:56] <Spoetnik> All that is left is.. profit.
[08:57] <Febo> they have meetings all teh time, but talk onyl of that . yes is most important but still.
14[08:57] <Spoetnik> Monero is a currency right ?
[08:57] <Febo> yes
[08:57] <Febo> you can say that way
[08:57] <Febo> monero is like btc
[08:57] <Febo> internet of money
14[08:57] <Spoetnik> well if it is not used as a Currency then.. it is not a currency LOL
[08:58] <Febo> it wil be used for storing
[08:58] <Febo> i am not worried
14[08:58] <Spoetnik> then it just becomes a digital token used for profit (not a currency)
[08:58] <Febo> not profit
[08:58] <Febo> for storing
14[08:58] <Spoetnik> optimisim does not make it a currency
[08:58] <Febo> thatsi my wiev
[08:59] <Febo> if you ask me soon you wil nto knwo what you use
[08:59] <Febo> which curency
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> think about what a currency is..
[08:59] <Febo> you wil just use teh one taht is cheapest
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> are poepl using Monero or any altcoin for it's INTENDED purpose ?
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> 90% no
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> mostly just profit..
[08:59] <Febo> yes
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> then you can't call it a currency then LOL
[09:00] <Febo> now those that buy it does for speculation
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> get it used as one !
[09:00] <Febo> i bought 10 ETH to use, not to speculate
[09:00] <Febo> and price went up x10 lol
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> which means Bitcointalk does not even matter.. at all.
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> nor does the price..
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> both are iurreleevnt
[09:00] <Febo> i bought to open walet and make that contract to learn
[09:00] <Febo> yes
14[09:01] <Spoetnik> the ONLY thing that really matters is outsoide of Bitcointalk
[09:01] <Febo> for Monero
14[09:01] <Spoetnik> It should not matter what they think..
[09:01] <Febo> fo rsome other coins that nooen here knows about them also matters here.
14[09:01] <Spoetnik> they are profiteers
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> you need mom & pop + friends family using the coin
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> not profiteers counting money at Bitcointalk..
[09:02] <Febo> i tell you they will
[09:02] <Febo> bitcoin
[09:02] <Febo> soon, they wil nt know they do but wil use it
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> Bitcoin has gone in reverse and doen next to nothing for adoption
[09:02] <Febo> latter also other coins
[09:02] <Febo> eh
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> and Monero or any altcoin can not even compare with BTC
[09:03] <Febo> companies use it
[09:03] <Febo> yes they are far behind
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> my country ahd the worlds first BTC ATM machien in Canada back in late 2013 eh
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> it was taken downa dnthe store closed liek almsot 2 years ago now
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> BTC is slipping bad for years with adoption
[09:03] <Febo> yes
[09:03] <Febo> they said last yer when was in netherlands
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> they are nto moving forward but backwards
14[09:04] <Spoetnik> and altcoins can not evenkeep upw ith Bitcoin LOL
[09:04] <Febo> in soem bitcon conference how many places stoped
14[09:04] <Spoetnik> profiteers are the problem
14[09:04] <Spoetnik> and that is th eonly people at TheTalk
[09:04] <Febo> i also see in my country stores started aceptingin 2013 and now no new more.
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> exactly..
[09:05] <Febo> we had now selling btc on petrol stations
[09:05] <Febo> lol
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> If Monero can succeed then go for it..
[09:05] <Febo> and not even our guy did it but soemeone looking lik eindian
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> but i dont think it has done much *yet*
[09:05] <Febo> monero wil stay. i am not worried.
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> it needs to do things in the real world not on that scammy shithole forum
[09:06] <Febo> that wil be superhard
[09:06] <Febo> lol
14[09:06] <Spoetnik> woudl you brag about planting arose in a field of dog shit ?
[09:06] <Febo> many other coins did it
14[09:06] <Spoetnik> imagine a million pounds of shit then 1 rose sticking out LOL
14[09:06] <Spoetnik> it is STILL a rose in field of shit..
14[09:07] <Spoetnik> context
[09:07] <Febo> asi see chance for monero is something that wil happen with privacy.
[09:07] <Febo> to be known more
14[09:08] <Spoetnik> i am not so sure the public is going to be interested in that
[09:08] <Febo> i think it will
14[09:09] <Spoetnik> I think it will hamper adoption mostly
[09:09] <Febo> but it differs on diferent part of world i guess
14[09:09] <Spoetnik> hackers will want to attack ot & govt's will want to also
[09:09] <Febo> it is hard to attack PoW
[09:09] <Febo> i mean you need to do it constantly
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> Govts may push regualtion on us because of it..
[09:10] <Febo> yes
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> so far they have..
[09:10] <Febo> but what they will do lol
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> i kept warning gusy for 3 years take part and vote for regulation ..or.....
[09:10] <Febo> is dencentralized
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> they will push it on us anyway with OUT our input on it
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> and people said who cares..
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> they said they can;t stop us etc
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> they can !
[09:11] <Febo> they cant
14[09:11] <Spoetnik>
http://www.coindesk.com/localbitcoins-users-criminal-charges-florida/14[09:11] <Spoetnik> what do you do when the FBI arrests you for selling Bitcoin ?
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> YES they can
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> and they DO !
14[09:12] <Spoetnik> Cryptsy was reporting user to the Fed's
[09:12] <Febo> i guess something they di dwas against law
14[09:12] <Spoetnik> ..for example
14[09:12] <Spoetnik> yup and the laws coudl get waaaaaay worse pushing "Anon" coins i think
[09:12] <Febo> in my country mining is taxable, gaining profit on exchanges or selling it is not
[09:13] <Febo> so here no poblems sell on localbitcoins
14[09:13] <Spoetnik> that link shows a guy who sold Bitcoin adn got arrested by the FBI
[09:13] <Febo> yes i just read title
14[09:13] <Spoetnik> he broke Florida's anti-money-laundering laws
[09:13] <Febo> yes
[09:13] <Febo> he shoudl pay tax
14[09:13] <Spoetnik> anything over 10k usd is bad news
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> it was not about taxes
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> it was about having yoru identity attacked tot he transaction
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> attached*
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> anything over 10k has to be documented with picture ID etc
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> see a problem with ANOn yet ? lol
14[09:15] <Spoetnik> they set up those laws LONG ago to combat money laundering from the Mob etc
14[09:15] <Spoetnik> But it applies to Crypto still we see
14[09:15] <Spoetnik> with all the ransomware out and the FBI hunting them.. we got more drma coming
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> sorry i just think ANON coin is a bad idea lol
[09:16] <Febo> i understand
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> and if it *can* be used optionaly then THAT si what it WILL be known for..
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> EVEN if it an option
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> imagien Monero on SilkRoad
14[09:17] <Spoetnik> the puclic already thinks BTC is a drugs & guns thing on the web.. lots of people on the street told me eh
14[09:17] <Spoetnik> we might know better but hte ublci may not..
14[09:17] <Spoetnik> and the govt may over reacte with ahrsh laws making it super hard to get BTC to buy monero etc
[09:18] <Febo> lol
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> that would cripple crypto
[09:18] <Febo> now you are owerreacting
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> we need the flow off fiat money into BTC into Alt's
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> cut off the chain & you got a big problem
[09:18] <Febo> yes
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> for example..
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> Paypal
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> they forbid for 4+ years now ANY connection with ANY viryual currency
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> if they catch you yoru accoutn + money is GONE !
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> they cut off th elink to FIAT with "laws"
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> that is reality
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> rigth in thier TOS agreement
[09:19] <Febo> istheir loss
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> i know they naield me 2 years back LOL
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> no mine when they popped me LOL
[09:20] <Febo> paypal coudl use crypto nicely
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> i hade to get a lawyer and fight them for 2.5 months
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> almost lsot 5k
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> lost*
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> this is not shit that is helping adoption Febo LOL
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> that is regulations causing a problem..
[09:21] <Febo> no that is paypal be afraid
14[09:21] <Spoetnik> i had to pay the laweyr fee's out of pocket and had my coisn / money seized tide up unable to be used for months randomly out fo th eblue
[09:21] <Febo> stop using paypal lol
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> and all i did was send over the min amount from BTCe two times..
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> i did
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> min amount was $2,500 usd
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> and fee's for the 2 tx's was $500
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> from both the exchange + PP
[09:22] <Febo> lol
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> ouch LOL
[09:22] <Febo> that is what makes crypto great
[09:23] <Febo> simple
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> they gouged me then locked my account
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> you would not believe the bullshit htey put me through man
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> i th end they said they woudl give it back and unlcok my account
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> then they stoel $700
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> and ketp demanding tehy already gave it back..
14[09:24] <Spoetnik> they did not.. i think satff were stealing from me on purpose
14[09:24] <Spoetnik> eventually i got them to admit it though and i got it..
14[09:24] <Spoetnik> nightmare LOL
14[09:25] <Spoetnik> well good talking to you but i shoudl start getting ready to head out now
14[09:25] <Spoetnik> i will go AFK soon'ish
[09:25] <Febo> goooo
Session Close: Sun Jun 26 13:18:00 2016