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July 27, 2023, 05:08:48 PM
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I'd like to ask the forum moderators a question about the not sending reports on old posts. What if these reports are related to plagiarism? I have several links to such posts. As far as I know, theymos, I think, wrote that plagiarism has no statute of limitations. So is it possible to report old plagiarized posts?

I would like to say: it depends.
- Is the user still active ?
- Do you have just one case of plagiarism for this user ?
- Does it look like "honest plagiarism" ? (Does he make the plagiarized message his own, or is it just a copy/paste ?)
- How old is the plagiarized message? Knowing that :

<...> Your plagiarised post must be old cause it's posted back in 2015 but the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ was posted a year earlier that's why you still committed a violation as it is stated in the rules and regulations of the forum. <...>
It should be noted that there was no rule about plagiarism on Bitcointalk until 2016, according to web-archive.

So if the user is inactive, you only have one case of a plagiarized message and it just looks like a copy/paste and dates back to before 2016, I would like to say forget it. It's just my opinion, but you can report it, you don't really risk anything Smiley.

Yes, thank you for the reply. I understood your point. You can see for yourself all the information about this plagiarism in my post here. And this information does not fit any of the points you mentioned. By the way, the user I reported in my post has already been banned. Thanks again for your comment.
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27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

I have a small question to mprep regarding rule 27: is the automated translation (using an automated translating tool) permitted  from a foreign language into English?

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mpep has answered this previously on this thread, or better still linked a response from theymos on his opinions

Here is the highlight which touches on your question;
EDIT: In regards to automated translations from non-English to English, I've PMed theymos about it, specifically with the following questions:

  • What is the exact policy on automated translations (both English -> local, as well as local -> English)?
  • When is it [read: automated translations] prohibited?
  • When is it allowed (e.g. possible scenarios or situations)?
  • When is it arguable and up to the moderator's discretion?

Here's what he had to say (publishing this with his permission, of course):

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In the English sections, the policy should generally be to ignore whether or not it's autotranslated, and evaluate the post on its merit. Bad grammar is obviously not disallowed, but if it's so bad (due to autotranslation or otherwise) that the post is basically incomprehensible, then it's a useless post and should be deleted. If it's translated from elsewhere, then you should generally act the same as if the source was originally in English, asking questions like:
 - Is the quote useful/on-topic in the post's context (especially after being mangled a bit through translation)?
 - Is the user just finding stuff to copy in order to bulk up his posts?
 - Is the user passing this off as his own when it's actually not?

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I have a small question to mprep regarding rule 27: is the automated translation (using an automated translating tool) permitted  from a foreign language into English?
My interpretation: I've seen people posts translated technical questions, and those people deserve to get all the help they need. It would be bad to ban them from getting Bitcoin related technical help just because they don't speak English.

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October 24, 2023, 11:19:35 PM
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I have a small question to mprep regarding rule 27: is the automated translation (using an automated translating tool) permitted  from a foreign language into English?
My interpretation: I've seen people posts translated technical questions, and those people deserve to get all the help they need. It would be bad to ban them from getting Bitcoin related technical help just because they don't speak English.
sir, the point is the strong desire of some contributors to learn interaction in each language, it is realized that there is ambiguity because everyday uses local language to discuss crypto or bitcoin on social media. armed with these tools there is an overview to understand ideas, responses there are guides,. in my opinion the motivation is that there is knowledge that can come from people who speak other foreign languages. it's intelligence.
local languages in various countries to find out info that happens around but not reachable in time and place while the universal language (English) reaches the development of information globally and thoroughly.

It is not uncommon for people to retell events or moments far into their real lives, and bitcoin talk forums are fast enough to raise topics and discussions from useful, unique, interesting, quality to many people from various locations in the world.

and i agree to enjoy all the discussions in all bitcoin talk boards and threads with all languages even with that tool.thank you sir










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October 25, 2023, 11:15:49 AM
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I have a small question to mprep regarding rule 27: is the automated translation (using an automated translating tool) permitted  from a foreign language into English?
I wouldn't ban any members for using automated translation, unless they are spamming all local boards with shitcoin projects ANN automated translated topics.
We had this situation happening several times in our local board and I always reported them to moderators, that resulted with deletion and sometimes with a ban.
Some people don't speak good enough English language and they need to use some type of translation tools.

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I wouldn't ban any members for using automated translation, unless they are spamming all local boards with shitcoin projects ANN automated translated topics.
We had this situation happening several times in our local board and I always reported them to moderators, that resulted with deletion and sometimes with a ban.
Some people don't speak good enough English language and they need to use some type of translation tools.

In the last two weeks, the question about whether or not one should make posts on some local boards using the help of translation tools has been very interesting for me to ask.
It turns out it's been answered. Meaning I can use the help of translation tools to create posts as long as I don't send spam.
Correct me if I misunderstand this.

Thank You. I am very happy to get the answer because I am not a native speaker of any other country's language other than my local language.
I can understand the meaning of native English speakers, but I can't write perfect English.

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Can you add DDoS services to the list of things that aren't allowed?

(None of the topics you linked had ever received any reports, which is why the matter of DDoS services was never really considered.)
This is a tricky one: I had seen the topics promoting DDoS services (in a signature campaign), but didn't expect reporting them was going to change anything because it wasn't mentioned in the forum rules.

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Added 2 more new rules:

34. Promoting or linking to mixer services is prohibited.[11]

35. Promoting or linking to DDoS services is prohibited.[12]



Can you add DDoS services to the list of things that aren't allowed?

(None of the topics you linked had ever received any reports, which is why the matter of DDoS services was never really considered.)
This is a tricky one: I had seen the topics promoting DDoS services (in a signature campaign), but didn't expect reporting them was going to change anything because it wasn't mentioned in the forum rules.
Added and added you to the credits as well, thanks for the heads up.

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Can one get permanently banned for repeating the same offence of spamming a thread over and over with the same crap?
The poster IAW has been repeatedly reported and deleted many times from the Wall Observer for posting walls of crap/ plagiarism with no citation, but just continues with his nonsense.


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