Do not post off-topic replies

[theymos]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

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+1.

I'll be more than happy to join you. Cry "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war!

[yeponlyone]

I fully admit that the last few posts may be relevant in a way that i can't grasp, but i highly doubt it:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=16032.60

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I fully admit that the last few posts may be relevant in a way that i can't grasp, but i highly doubt it:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=16032.60

If you see something that needs a moderator's attention, click "Report to moderator" at the lower right.

[kokjo]

-1

[BitcoinPorn]

Love the clean up that has gone on in the Bitcoin Discussion

This is only a semi-off topic reply

[riX]

+1 posts does not add any valuable information to the forum imho. The question is whether we want this to be a place to chat or a place to get information easily.

And to comment on the topic: great decision, if people want unquestioned freedom of speech we can create a subforum for that.

[theymos]

What about these posts which consist of nothing but "+1", or "-1"?

I consider these posts to be off-topic because they have no point, but they don't cause much damage, so I usually don't delete them unless the poster posts useless replies a lot or the useless replies are reported.

Other moderators might be more or less strict about this.

And are we allowed to post "bump" with no furthur comment?

Bumping is necessary, so I ignore these. Do not bump more than once a day or many times in a row, though.

[Houdini]

I consider these posts to be off-topic because they have no point, but they don't cause much damage, so I usually don't delete them unless the poster posts useless replies a lot or the useless replies are reported.

I'm for allowing +1 posts. Not of great use use or very creative but they do show the general opinion of the audience on a certain topic. But people shouldn't limit themselves to just +1 or -1 posts.

Bumping is necessary, so I ignore these. Do not bump more than once a day or many times in a row, though.

Totally agree. I usually only bump my topics once if ever, on any forum.

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

Hear, hear !
This forum really does have a rampant off-topic-ing problem. But I'd still notify the authors so they can ammend their ways. Maybe an automated system would be ideal for the job.

[theymos]

It's too tedious to manually send deletion notifications, though I would really like an automated system to PM people when they get a post deleted. I find the SMF code very confusing, though, so I will probably not be making any modifications within the near future.

[Houdini]

Well no offense Theymos but you really need to get some help with running the forum (not applying for the job here) because it's seriously under-administered. It should have a much bigger crew relative to the number of members. And I'm not just talking about mods, a good developer would be handy.

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It's too tedious to manually send deletion notifications, though I would really like an automated system to PM people when they get a post deleted. I find the SMF code very confusing, though, so I will probably not be making any modifications within the near future.

I was under the impression that SMF already did this.

[Christian Pezza]

There is any way to star and/or grade a topic maybe could helps to "clean up"

[defxor]

The concept of off/on topic in threads is really really difficult. The solution I've been most successful with (and I'm pre-Internet chatforum moderator old) is to have the original poster decide when the discussion that follows is on or off topic.

Else you end up in situations where the thread starter is fully ok with the discussion and a moderator starts deleting posts.

(In this case it should be somewhat easy for moderators to see if it's the thread starter that Reports to Moderator with "off topic" as reason)

[theymos]

The concept of off/on topic in threads is really really difficult. The solution I've been most successful with (and I'm pre-Internet chatforum moderator old) is to have the original poster decide when the discussion that follows is on or off topic.

Else you end up in situations where the thread starter is fully ok with the discussion and a moderator starts deleting posts.

(In this case it should be somewhat easy for moderators to see if it's the thread starter that Reports to Moderator with "off topic" as reason)

This is not fair to the people responding to a topic, IMO. People who reply to topics should know that if they are on-topic and they follow the rules, they will not be censored. Also, it is very annoying for reply-writers when they write long, detailed responses and then the topics become off-topic and useless.

Maintaining perfect on-topicness is difficult. In the future, discussions may be made threaded instead of flat, which will basically be like having a system that automatically creates new topics when people are posting off-topic things (in many cases).

[defxor]

This is not fair to the people responding to a topic, IMO. People who reply to topics should know that if they are on-topic and they follow the rules, they will not be censored. Also, it is very annoying for reply-writers when they write long, detailed responses and then the topics become off-topic and useless.

Well, it's your forum, but I've never seen OPs suddenly deciding replies to the first post to be off topic and complaining to moderators (who wouldn't then .. check?).

It's far more common to see posters in a thread getting irritated when moderators who are not part of the actual discussion go around and deleting posts.

(Not here, yet, but that's a worry with the change you outlined)

[joulesbeef]

how about banning the frequent offenders, hackers and trolls? I'd rather see off topic replies than the mess we have on here today.

[Transisto]

Some people have many different clone and post short one line comment to bump a thread and boost their post count. Some other member may see post# as a rating/authoritative.

All I ask for this forum is being able to HIDE threads we don't want to see ever again,   Especially those that start with a stupid OP but yet people bump these endlessly to prove how wise they are.

[farfiman]

Whats next? Deleting stupid   threads that don't meet certain criteria ?
Some people start 10 threads  a day : " 5$ within the hour?  5.2$ in the next 10 min? 5.5$ today ?"    etc...etc...
so what...

[stochastic]

Reading through posts it seems there is an off topic reply in every thread.

[theymos]

Reading through posts it seems there is an off topic reply in every thread.

Report them.

[Crypt_Current]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Do you need more people to help move them to a more appropriate place?
I spend an ungodly amount of time on this forum, and am usually not doing much else...  Except procrastinating school work 

[theymos]

Do you need more people to help move them to a more appropriate place?
I spend an ungodly amount of time on this forum, and am usually not doing much else...  Except procrastinating school work 

Please report them whenever you see them. This is very helpful.

[Jeremy West spendbitcoins.com]

And are we allowed to post "bump" with no furthur comment?

Bumping is necessary, so I ignore these. Do not bump more than once a day or many times in a row, though.

I very occasionally feel the need to bump, but I don't just say 'bump' when I do so. I think of something intelligent enough to add that it makes sense that I'm posting again. I find 'bump' a bit annoying. But then, I wouldn't care enough to delete it, so...

[dancupid]

Do you need more people to help move them to a more appropriate place?
I spend an ungodly amount of time on this forum, and am usually not doing much else...  Except procrastinating school work 

Please report them whenever you see them. This is very helpful.

Report them! Or find yourself a girlfriend. (on or off topic?)

[Transisto]

Do you need more people to help move them to a more appropriate place?
I spend an ungodly amount of time on this forum, and am usually not doing much else...  Except procrastinating school work  

Please report them whenever you see them. This is very helpful.

Report them! Or find yourself a girlfriend. (on or off topic?)

reviving month old thread... WTF was I following this ?

[nybble41]

Well no offense Theymos but you really need to get some help with running the forum (not applying for the job here) because it's seriously under-administered. It should have a much bigger crew relative to the number of members. And I'm not just talking about mods, a good developer would be handy.

These are all very good points. Unfortunately, the original subject of the thread was deletion of off-topic comments, not the forum's administrative load. Under a strict interpretation of the forum's rules--the alternative being arbitrary censorship at the moderators' discretion--this perfectly reasonable comment must be deleted.

Personally, I would prefer to see off-topic replies merely hidden by default (with a show/hide toggle) rather than deleted outright, doubly so if the forum does not retain a copy of the deleted comment in the poster's profile. It's much easier to delete a comment than it is to get it back, and a comment which is off-topic can nonetheless be insightful and/or informative in a more appropriate context. In any case, the problem of off-topic replies is really more a reflection on the forum's lack of threading than any fault of the users.

[theymos]

In any case, the problem of off-topic replies is really more a reflection on the forum's lack of threading than any fault of the users.

I agree, but since the forum doesn't yet support threading, it's necessary to enforce on-topicness to keep the forum usable.

Substantial off-topic replies are usually split.

[dancupid]

In any case, the problem of off-topic replies is really more a reflection on the forum's lack of threading than any fault of the users.

I agree, but since the forum doesn't yet support threading, it's necessary to enforce on-topicness to keep the forum usable.

Substantial off-topic replies are usually split.

Actually reading back through my (deleted) drunken posts it makes sense - but it would be nice if the forum had some way for posters to post jokes and irrelevant bullshit from time to time (within the thread)

[ZodiacDragon84]

Do you need more people to help move them to a more appropriate place?
I spend an ungodly amount of time on this forum, and am usually not doing much else...  Except procrastinating school work  

Please report them whenever you see them. This is very helpful.

Report them! Or find yourself a girlfriend. (on or off topic?)

reviving month old thread... WTF was I following this ?

I agree Transisto

[Vernon715]

Thanks...How should we report?

[ZodiacDragon84]

There should be a link in the bottom left of the post pane that says report to moderator

[Vernon715]

There should be a link in the bottom left of the post pane that says report to moderator

Thanks.

I should get my eyes checked

[nimda]

What about these posts which consist of nothing but "+1", or "-1"? And are we allowed to post "bump" with no furthur comment?

Could be COMPLETELY phased out with a +/- rating link for posts.

I'd rather see that a trusted lender agrees with a post than the number 10 which could be composed of 3 scammers and 7 people trying to start a scam...

[ludo0777]

Makes perfect sense. Only relevant things should be posted on topics. If your desperate to say something about something else make your own topic

[cryptoanarchist]

Well, you better get over to the Bitcoinica thread and get your 'delete' button working!

[unclemantis]

What classifies as an off-topic reply in THIS subject?

[mobile4ever]

What classifies as an off-topic reply in THIS subject?

Anything not related to off-topic replies.   

Mods have a hard job. I doubt they are getting much BTC for it, either.
A new forum software would make their job easier, if the SMF database
will cooperate.

[TECSHARE]

Would it be possible to let users delete off topic posts in their own threads? I have had a problem several times with people hijacking marketplace posts for trades who have no interest in an exchange but feel it is their duty to intervene or offer advice on every little thing even if it is completely counter productive to trading. If a user was abusing his ability to remove posts, nothing is stopping others from making their own threads to point this out, or for that matter reporting it to staff. Since forum policy states the OP should be able to dictate the post rules anyway, I think this could both serve the community and reduce staff workload.

[casascius]

Would it be possible to let users delete off topic posts in their own threads? I have had a problem several times with people hijacking marketplace posts for trades who have no interest in an exchange but feel it is their duty to intervene or offer advice on every little thing even if it is completely counter productive to trading. If a user was abusing his ability to remove posts, nothing is stopping others from making their own threads to point this out, or for that matter reporting it to staff. Since forum policy states the OP should be able to dictate the post rules anyway, I think this could both serve the community and reduce staff workload.

If the desire rule is "I don't want anybody posting in my thread" there is already a button for that: lock topic.  It's on the lower left corner of your screen.

Since it appears you ask your customers to PM you rather than post in the thread, and you berate and curse non-customers who reply... it's a safe bet nobody should post in your thread but you.  In that case, the lock option is probably nothing less than what you're looking for.

[theymos]

Would it be possible to let users delete off topic posts in their own threads? I have had a problem several times with people hijacking marketplace posts for trades who have no interest in an exchange but feel it is their duty to intervene or offer advice on every little thing even if it is completely counter productive to trading. If a user was abusing his ability to remove posts, nothing is stopping others from making their own threads to point this out, or for that matter reporting it to staff. Since forum policy states the OP should be able to dictate the post rules anyway, I think this could both serve the community and reduce staff workload.

No. This would get in the way of free discussion. Most people are bad moderators. The OP sets the initial conditions for discussion and then loses all control over the topic. OPs do not own replies by other people.

[TECSHARE]

Would it be possible to let users delete off topic posts in their own threads? I have had a problem several times with people hijacking marketplace posts for trades who have no interest in an exchange but feel it is their duty to intervene or offer advice on every little thing even if it is completely counter productive to trading. If a user was abusing his ability to remove posts, nothing is stopping others from making their own threads to point this out, or for that matter reporting it to staff. Since forum policy states the OP should be able to dictate the post rules anyway, I think this could both serve the community and reduce staff workload.

If the desire rule is "I don't want anybody posting in my thread" there is already a button for that: lock topic.  It's on the lower left corner of your screen.

Since it appears you ask your customers to PM you rather than post in the thread, and you berate and curse non-customers who reply... it's a safe bet nobody should post in your thread but you.  In that case, the lock option is probably nothing less than what you're looking for.

You are very arrogant to assume everything is always about you. Is there anywhere on this forum I can go to ask a question without you interfering and turning it into a drama pageant? This is number 3 now.

@Theymos - Why do we need open discussion in private marketplace ads? As I said before nothing is stopping people from making reports or making other threads about users if they abuse the control over their own threads.

[casascius]

You are very arrogant to assume everything is always about you.

I see beautiful irony.  Actually it's hard not to see beauty in everything Bitcoin when the Bitcoin bulls are stampeding.

Anyway, the irony is in the fact that you've asked for the ability to delete off-topic replies to your OP's, of a mod who shares his belief that giving people that ability is fundamentally not a good idea... and then immediately afterward, you have posted an off-topic reply in a thread about off-topic replies, started by that same mod, who has the very ability you seek - but then who might opt to not use it in his own thread for the very reason he gave.  All to tell me I'm arrogant, but in a somewhat textbook arrogant manner (I'm not offended, if it matters - I am a complete ass rather frequently, mostly IRL though, and have no room to speak about manners).

Hopefully on a day like this though, you have some bitcoins in hand.  Do you have a donation address?  Can I send you a coin?  I am even willing to delete all my posts you are complaining are cluttering your thread, and never post in a thread of yours again, then we can put each other on our ignore lists and you can go back to selling your wares... all you gotta do is say that's what you want!

[TECSHARE]

At this point your behavior has degenerated into stalking and childish trolling. I said very explicitly what I would like including in the OP. Either act or if you like continue to talk about acting. I am not going to act like you are doing me a favor for removing unwanted posts that have already derailed the thread (as if that helps). Either do it or don't, stop talking about it and do something. You don't need anything from me.

[theymos]

@Theymos - Why do we need open discussion in private marketplace ads? As I said before nothing is stopping people from making reports or making other threads about users if they abuse the control over their own threads.

You can use local thread rules if you don't want free discussion in your topics.

[bb113]

Instead of just deleting posts there should be a vertically slim message left saying:

"Post removed because deemed Off-Topic by moderator x"

This would avoid confusion.

Or at least have the offending poster automatically notified by pm that they were being too off topic.

[TECSHARE]

@Theymos - Why do we need open discussion in private marketplace ads? As I said before nothing is stopping people from making reports or making other threads about users if they abuse the control over their own threads.

You can use local thread rules if you don't want free discussion in your topics.

...aaand then it gets selectively enforced the other way and annoys the crap out of the moderators....

[vite]

This is a terrible idea because it will come into conflict with the free flow of ideas.so if someone does not agree with a comment and reports it as off topic then it will be deleted regardless of how on or of topic it may be. The fact that the ppopular ops and mods can start or divert topics and simply flag all comments that attemped against their will or trend of thought. If something if not on topic then people can just use the ignore function, it is already a working part of this board.

Vite
PS: mobile version would be nice my "off topic" topic got send to meta nice...

[Herodes]

It's going to be a monumental task to keep all thread ontopic.

[Chong Ciao]

Whats the yard - stick to decide on topic - off topic?
Is there a recourse to moderators , who falsify decisions to their will?
Is there public scrutiny provided about which moderator decided what?

[BadBear]

Whats the yard - stick to decide on topic - off topic?

Is the post related to the OP in any way? If not then it's off topic. I don't generally censor replies just for being off topic, a couple here and there are harmless, only if they break another rule as well (trolling, ad hom, etc).

Is there a recourse to moderators , who falsify decisions to their will?

Yes, admins can see pretty much anything mods can do so it would be pretty hard to falsify anything.  

Is there public scrutiny provided about which moderator decided what?

No.

And to reply to an older post

...so if someone does not agree with a comment and reports it as off topic then it will be deleted regardless of how on or of topic it may be. ...

No, reports are just suggestions, I look at each objectively.

[Chong Ciao]

Whats the yard - stick to decide on topic - off topic?

Is the post related to the OP in any way? If not then it's off topic. I don't generally censor replies just for being off topic, a couple here and there are harmless, only if they break another rule as well (trolling, ad hom, etc).

Is there a recourse to moderators , who falsify decisions to their will?

Yes, admins can see pretty much anything mods can do so it would be pretty hard to falsify anything.  

Is there public scrutiny provided about which moderator decided what?

No.

And to reply to an older post

...so if someone does not agree with a comment and reports it as off topic then it will be deleted regardless of how on or of topic it may be. ...

No, reports are just suggestions, I look at each objectively.

That means deleting is never done without your consent ?  Moderators just report ?
Is there any thread, where the different powers of moderators, globalmoderators and administrators is explained?
Thanks

[theymos]

That means deleting is never done without your consent ?  Moderators just report ?
Is there any thread, where the different powers of moderators, globalmoderators and administrators is explained?
Thanks

"Moderators" moderate specific sections. They can delete posts there, edit them, move topics, split topics, lock topics, and sticky topics. "Global moderators" are the same as moderators, but they moderate all sections. All staff can also whitelist newbies and ban newbies. Administrators can do anything.

Any user can report a post. The report is send to the admins, global moderators, and any applicable section moderators. The recipients choose to act on the report or not.

[salty]

Conversation drifts and develops, this may not be the best thing to do, you may be discouraged from posting something interesting for fear of it deviating from the original article too much, although it may still be relevant in the context of the flow of discussion. In this case posting a new topic would risk losing momentum if they missed the new thread.

[molecular]

Conversation drifts and develops, this may not be the best thing to do, you may be discouraged from posting something interesting for fear of it deviating from the original article too much, although it may still be relevant in the context of the flow of discussion. In this case posting a new topic would risk losing momentum if they missed the new thread.

I agree.

Some of the best discussions I take part in happen at least borderline off-topic. I think the OP was in reply to the huge rush of new users back in 2011. It's not that much of a problem any more, I guess.

[Maged]

It's not that much of a problem any more, I guess.

Not in the main forum, but if you checked out the mining forum before I cleaned it up you would have seen that it was a disaster.

[molecular]

It's not that much of a problem any more, I guess.

Not in the main forum, but if you checked out the mining forum before I cleaned it up you would have seen that it was a disaster.

Oh ok. It might heavily depend on which forums one looks at.

Late me also take this opportunity to thanks all mods for their great work!

[Luno]

Quite often an extrapolating answer is judged by some as off topic. Usually by people that only read the OP and last post!!!

Also often a thread consists of mitiple diaglouges on different elaborations of the OP, like two or more threads in one.

It's also the OP responsibility to correct a thread in progress if it does'nt find a natural end, as he is the only one that know what the intent of the thread is and state if the OP has been covered or become circular in arguments.

An off topic reporting system can be a weapon as the ignore button: "I will report you out of thread if keep comparing this and that".

Bitcointalk.org is a place where people get smarter, don't elude others of that experience.

[bonker]

I think we should have a "rep" button as well as "ignore"

Are you with me fellow bovine?

ARE YOU WITH ME!?

[TECSHARE]

Quite often an extrapolating answer is judged by some as off topic. Usually by people that only read the OP and last post!!!

Also often a thread consists of mitiple diaglouges on different elaborations of the OP, like two or more threads in one.

It's also the OP responsibility to correct a thread in progress if it does'nt find a natural end, as he is the only one that know what the intent of the thread is and state if the OP has been covered or become circular in arguments.

An off topic reporting system can be a weapon as the ignore button: "I will report you out of thread if keep comparing this and that".

Bitcointalk.org is a place where people get smarter, don't elude others of that experience.

I agree. The moderators don't have the time or desire to moderate all of the off topic posts. Additionally like you mentioned they can't always know the original intent of the OP. I have in the past for example had a marketplace thread hijacked by off topic posters, then the mods instead of removing THEIR posts changed the name of my thread and moved it to a discussion area! Not only did this strip me of my right to have a voice like anyone else here it actually put me in legal liability (and also probably bitcointalk itself) because of government regulation of the good and the wording of the new topic subject.

How is assisting off topic thread hijackers supporting free speech? As I said before the mods have no desire to do this and really don't know for sure what an OP might be trying to achieve. Nothing is stopping people from making their own thread so that they can be heard if we can each control our own. Anyone abusing this control would be exposed fairly quickly with other users cooperating to make threads decrying them. Additionally I have found thru personal experience if you point out abuse/mistakes from moderators here, they tend to find reasons to mess with you even more, leaving little room for getting problems fixed if the mistake lies with a moderator.

Relying on unpaid moderators to solve this problem is asinine and only results in the "good ol boy" club and donators getting help with the rest of us being told to deal with it. Some of us don't like to beg for help that never comes. Why not just give us the ability to manage our own threads? Making this problem the exclusive burden/responsibility of the moderators puts the burden entirely on the moderators rather than being distributed thru many users. Additionally moderators lose nothing if they don't respond to OP reports, but the OP loses time, effort, and some times money. The OP benefits most from controlling off topic posts, why not allow them to be responsible for it? Bitcointalk is far too large to rely on a handful of volunteer moderators, especially for what uninterested individuals might call a petty task of dealing with thousands of off topic posts. We are constantly told to report posts, but reports are usually met with nothing but apathy. Please stop using free speech as a veil for supporting total top down control when in reality it actually just as often makes speech less free here.

[theymos]

the mods instead of removing THEIR posts changed the name of my thread and moved it to a discussion area!

Moderators should not do this.

[Bitcoinpro]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

can we actually enforce this rule instead of taking it out on the op thankyou

[Bitcoinpro]

I think we should have a "rep" button as well as "ignore"

Are you with me fellow bovine?

ARE YOU WITH ME!?

what about a temporary ignore button that reports the post giving the mods more time to regulate

[BadBear]

I think we should have a "rep" button as well as "ignore"

Are you with me fellow bovine?

ARE YOU WITH ME!?

what about a temporary ignore button that reports the post giving the mods more time to regulate

Mod response time is fine, you just have bad/incorrect reports. 

[Bitcoinpro]

I think we should have a "rep" button as well as "ignore"

Are you with me fellow bovine?

ARE YOU WITH ME!?

what about a temporary ignore button that reports the post giving the mods more time to regulate

Mod response time is fine, you just have bad/incorrect reports.  

not one of my reports is incorrect

[Bitcoinpro]

think i have a decent enough background in moderating and forums in general to know who is trolling and who is responding to my legitimate threads

[Bitcoinpro]

every post i reported was off topic half of them where cat pictures a few months ago

tonight they where not really responding to the opening post in an appropriate fashion if you

you think im joking about setting up a Bitcoin Central Bank fine but im doing it, instead of just trying

to say that my reports where incorrect just explain to me   

[BadBear]

All of them, from today anyway. Here's a helpful image for you.

[Bitcoinpro]

thats a picture of nothing show the posts please and my opening post

and bring up my old reports of the cat pictures as well  

[Lethn]

Hi, please don't turn into a power tripping mod Theymos, I've had enough of them lately, what you guys should be worrying about is all these spammers and hackers gathering on these boards to con people out of their Bitcoins. Trying to appeal to over-sensitive muppets who don't know about the ignore function is just going to be a waste of time and will also lead to all sorts of bullshit rules that will swiftly empty this forum. I'm also going to take the opportunity to shamelessly plug my forum and say if what I've just predicted does happen ( and it usually does sadly ) you're all more than welcome to my forum when the inevitable ban fest happens, just ask for an invite code.

[Peter Lambert]

I think the forum has gotten much better since this rule was implemented.

By the way, I think the last few ad-hominem posts should be considered off-topic 

[bernard75]

Is it possible to activate "self moderated" after starting a topic?

[BadBear]

Is it possible to activate "self moderated" after starting a topic?

No. Posters need to be aware before they participate.

[bernard75]

Yeah, i didnt consider the legal implementation.

[WaverleyStreet]

Quite often an extrapolating answer is judged by some as off topic. Usually by people that only read the OP and last post!!!

Also often a thread consists of mitiple diaglouges on different elaborations of the OP, like two or more threads in one.

It's also the OP responsibility to correct a thread in progress if it does'nt find a natural end, as he is the only one that know what the intent of the thread is and state if the OP has been covered or become circular in arguments.

An off topic reporting system can be a weapon as the ignore button: "I will report you out of thread if keep comparing this and that".

Bitcointalk.org is a place where people get smarter, don't elude others of that experience.

I agree. The moderators don't have the time or desire to moderate all of the off topic posts. Additionally like you mentioned they can't always know the original intent of the OP. I have in the past for example had a marketplace thread hijacked by off topic posters, then the mods instead of removing THEIR posts changed the name of my thread and moved it to a discussion area! Not only did this strip me of my right to have a voice like anyone else here it actually put me in legal liability (and also probably bitcointalk itself) because of government regulation of the good and the wording of the new topic subject.

How is assisting off topic thread hijackers supporting free speech? As I said before the mods have no desire to do this and really don't know for sure what an OP might be trying to achieve. Nothing is stopping people from making their own thread so that they can be heard if we can each control our own. Anyone abusing this control would be exposed fairly quickly with other users cooperating to make threads decrying them. Additionally I have found thru personal experience if you point out abuse/mistakes from moderators here, they tend to find reasons to mess with you even more, leaving little room for getting problems fixed if the mistake lies with a moderator.

Relying on unpaid moderators to solve this problem is asinine and only results in the "good ol boy" club and donators getting help with the rest of us being told to deal with it. Some of us don't like to beg for help that never comes. Why not just give us the ability to manage our own threads? Making this problem the exclusive burden/responsibility of the moderators puts the burden entirely on the moderators rather than being distributed thru many users. Additionally moderators lose nothing if they don't respond to OP reports, but the OP loses time, effort, and some times money. The OP benefits most from controlling off topic posts, why not allow them to be responsible for it? Bitcointalk is far too large to rely on a handful of volunteer moderators, especially for what uninterested individuals might call a petty task of dealing with thousands of off topic posts. We are constantly told to report posts, but reports are usually met with nothing but apathy. Please stop using free speech as a veil for supporting total top down control when in reality it actually just as often makes speech less free here.

bitcointalk.org flies in the face of "free speech" !!!!!



>>>WHY?

[WaverleyStreet]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

name calling (= troll)  and personal attacks are tolerated if not encouraged by the mods!!!


>> IS NAME CALLING i.e =:PERSONAL ATTACKS NOT OFF-TOPIC ?

[greyhawk]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

name calling (= troll)  and personal attacks are tolerated if not encouraged by the mods!!!


>> IS NAME CALLING i.e =:PERSONAL ATTACKS NOT OFF-TOPIC ?

Try posting sober. It might help.

[WaverleyStreet]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

name calling (= troll)  and personal attacks are tolerated if not encouraged by the mods!!!


>> IS NAME CALLING i.e =:PERSONAL ATTACKS NOT OFF-TOPIC ?

Try posting sober. It might help.

i'm totally sober i'm a Christian Scientist ! *link restored*~>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Scientist


>>>WTF  DO YOU RUN SILK ROAD SHOPS???

[greyhawk]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

name calling (= troll)  and personal attacks are tolerated if not encouraged by the mods!!!


>> IS NAME CALLING i.e =:PERSONAL ATTACKS NOT OFF-TOPIC ?

Try posting sober. It might help.

i'm totally sober i'm a Christian Scientist ! *link restored*~>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Scientist


>>>WTF  DO YOU RUN SILK ROAD SHOPS???

Your gimmick needs work. Find a better one.

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[bernard75]

No post count posts either.

[Welsh]

No bumping posts?

Bumping isn't off topic if you talk about the thread .

[tysat]

No bumping posts?

Bumping isn't off topic if you talk about the thread .

Bumping is allowed, keep it to 1 per 24 hours

[sublime5447]

I dont know why you guys wont let people flag post.

The master coin thread is allowed to remain in the currency thread when all other alts have been moved. Looks to be favoritism to me.

Let the community police the thread.. instead of insiders playing games and giving favors to their buddies

[tysat]

I dont know why you guys wont let people flag post.

The master coin thread is allowed to remain in the currency thread when all other alts have been moved. Looks to be favoritism to me.

Let the community police the thread.. instead of insiders playing games and giving favors to their buddies

Not sure what you're talking about, got a link?

[sublime5447]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287145.0;topicseen

[b!z]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287145.0;topicseen

Mastercoin is sort of like Bitcoin, since it's built on top of the BTC protocol.

[sublime5447]

Ya I see that now, but still.

I would recommend a market place thread for BTC only. It junks up the thread.

[Justy]

As a newcomer i feel off topic means everything else within the realms of perceptive reality?
Bits coin research info can tax the brain a tad and the people therein
Just let it roll,I'm billy meiers love child but wouldn't shout about it

[Operatr]

Not sure how much I agree with this...

Basically it sounds like you are going to censor the board completely by yourself with zero user interaction at your discretion alone.

I would agree that off-topic posts, and even off-topic threads (does no one read the thread topic before posting in a section?) are a problem that is cluttering up the boards with needless junk, but this isn't the way to handle it.

[JaiChai]

Please don't discount the human tendency to access memory through tangents (the natural neural network framework).

It is the foundation of creativity and has incubated the beginnings of all the technological breakthroughs in recorded history.

For example, while working on secure communications, Dr. Merkle - of the Merkle tree fame - first proposed the hash of a hash security process that happens to be the basis of the double SHA256 encryption algorithm that our beloved Bitcoin is based upon...

So please, a little tolerance of off-topic submissions might promote innovation - and probably another thread?

Cheers,

JaiChai

[HomerS]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Ye, i agree off-topic replies have become a big problem, but who arbitrates whats is on / off topic. Administrators feel like Mussolini in Italia or Kaddafi in Libya. They have the power which change their personality.
But i see it´s problem in most diskussion forums.

[tommygun90]

Here are too many posts that does not add any valuable information to the people! I don't understand why they even leave them

[hilariousandco]

Here are too many posts that does not add any valuable information to the people! I don't understand why they even leave them

I find that ironic since you just pretty much just copy and pasted one of my replies in another thread:

I think most get moved there, especially when they're about its service problems. Maybe if the threads are about how the general gox fiasco affects other aspects of Bitcoin etc then they stay in the Bitcoin forum?

I suppose everything related to the the general gox fiasco that affects other aspects of Bitcoin could be posted

[shaobao88]

Who is competent to decide whether this is off-topic or not?

[Nas]

I see a lot of off-topic replies. I will report them when my account gets bigger and I don't have 6-10 minutes limit.

[picolo]

Who is competent to decide whether this is off-topic or not?

The mods and bitcointalk staff are competent for that and they use common sense

[Pobre]

Is there some kind of reward or benefit you get by reporting bad posts? if no, then i think that there should be a mechanism that rewards the people who report the off topic posts.

[TheRealSteve]

Lately there have been quite a few posts made by two bitcoin mining hardware developers where they essentially attack each other.

While I'm all for some friendly competition, I think it lost the 'friendly' moniker a good while back, and lately their 'communication' has spilled out into unrelated threads, with each having supporters who make follow-up posts that escalate the situation.

They know who they are.  The mods probably know who they are.  And, sadly, more and more people are becoming aware of who they are in a negative sense

[jeffersonairplane]

I dont know why you guys wont let people flag post.

The master coin thread is allowed to remain in the currency thread when all other alts have been moved. Looks to be favoritism to me.

Let the community police the thread.. instead of insiders playing games and giving favors to their buddies

It's called the report to moderator feature. People don't use it to their benefit.

[knightcoin]

Psychologists says ... lets people talk and expresses their self ... otherwise soon we going to became followers of that guy ...




reminds me the tv movie called "the wave"

An experiment in an American High School where students learn how easy it is to be seduced by the same social forces which led to the horrors of Nazi Germany. Based on a true story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083316/

[Katekyo]

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

It's unfair. You keep deleting my posts while I do not consider them off-topic at all, while I see so many off-topic posts everywhere on this forum being preserved. What are your OBJECTIVE PARAMETERS here?

An example, I have just sent a post to an OFF-TOPIC thread, with the intention to demonstrate appreciation in a funny way, because indeed, I like and I find it funny whenever I see that OP's (in that regarded thread) frequent (and also, some times off-topic, but whatever) comment:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

horseshit



lol

Unfortunately that is not the only deleted post I had. And it was always unfair from my perspective.

I'm looking forward to a betterment of OUR forum.

Thank you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709018.msg8011562#msg8011562

[Muhammed Zakir]

-1

Sorry to ask, I read in a topic by a staff(if I am right) that posts containing just '+1' or similar to it are considered as spam. So is the above post considered as scam? If it is, why isn't it deleted?

Edit:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

horseshit



lol

Unfortunately that is not the only deleted post I had. And it was always unfair from my perspective.

I'm looking forward to a betterment of OUR forum.

Thank you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709018.msg8011562#msg8011562

IMO, such posts are considered as spam.  Try to avoid such posts.
Kindly,
       MZ

[dKingston]

I think it's correct that the answers should be relevant
to the questions! I'll be more than happy to help you. 

[aigeezer]

I am baffled. I got a PM, apparently from "Bitcoin Forum on Bitcoin Forum" It says:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Aigeezer, is that Alan Turing or Joseph Goebbels in your avatar? The latter could do wonders for our Darkcoin marketing, taking it to a whole new level

Heh. It is Turing.

It included a link that said "Reply to this PM here". I drafted this reply:

-- draft reply start --

I do not understand why my reply was deleted. Please explain so that I can "In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted."

From my perspective, I replied honestly and as briefly as I could to an annoying question directly addressed to me. Hard to avoid! I see that the question remains untouched on the site - making it appear that I never answered.

Thanks

-- draft reply end --

When I pressed "send" I got this in response: "User 'Bitcoin Forum' has blocked your personal message."

Now what?

Edit: Update, some 15 hours later. In the absence of any moderator feedback/explanation, I have answered the original question again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg9152190#msg9152190

[EFS]

-snip-

There is no user Bitcoin Forum. That message is automated. Next time if you have question about your deleted post, post in Meta or PM to Global Moderators.

[aigeezer]

-snip-

There is no user Bitcoin Forum. That message is automated. Next time if you have question about your deleted post, post in Meta or PM to Global Moderators.

Thanks for the info. Reminder - the PM I received included an unresponsive link that said "Reply to this PM here", with no other instructions about recourse.

[takagari]

My posts are now being deleted without reason, 5 already. Everything I post.
No name given as to who, OR reason as to why.
Even replies to my own threads, so I'm on my own topic, are being removed.

[Moon Follow Me]

please pay some attention here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945013.0
there are tons of offtopic in spreadcoin topic and mods don't remove it

[Muhammed Zakir]

please pay some attention here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945013.0
there are tons of offtopic in spreadcoin topic and mods don't remove it

It take some time to get into the action but if you want a fast re-action from mod, report the post by clicking 'Report to moderator' situated at bottom-right. There is a high chance that the spams near to the reported one getting deleted.

   ~~MZ~~

[SureLockLoans]

My posts are now being deleted without reason, 5 already. Everything I post.
No name given as to who, OR reason as to why.
Even replies to my own threads, so I'm on my own topic, are being removed.

there probably is a reason you can start a meta thread and get the attention of the moderator who deleted your posts and he will probably give you a explanation.

[shavers]

There is any way to star and/or grade a topic maybe could helps to "clean up"

Quite a good idea! What comes to my mind is the concept of marking, just like Poloniex did. Mark the good post and it'll be recorded on a ledger, maybe even could be calculated into activity score periodically. That might prevent all those "I like it", "+10", "I agree" empty comments needed moderation.

[macsga]

Trolls are becoming a huge problem throughout the forum for unknown reasons to me so far; maybe we're just sitting ducks. I'd propose the newbie jail v.2.0 where 3 older members could bring someone out by voting. If the new member has 0 posts, he won't be allowed into the main forum. If he's a troll we will know it sooner than he posts japanese naked men and homo pictures into a 14000 long page thread.

[rambhajan99]

why should i not reoly in off topic

[hilariousandco]

why should i not reoly in off topic

. You can reply to threads in off-topic, just not with off topic replies IE discussing music in a thread about apples.

[boki15]

Is this to define as silencing if staff members allow offtopic and delete ontopic?

It seems like if definition of on/offtopic varies from user to user, there is no specific definition of what is offtopic and if you suggest splitting sentences into posts to void confusion, you will get even more bytes used by this forum and number of posts will grow, of course if you dont ban every user before.

What is offtopic and if it is forbidden why do I see it everywhere?

[morantis]

One thing to anyone that starts a thread here on the forum.

Make sure that you always mark the self-moderated box on any thread that you start.  Make sure that you watch your own thread and try to take part in it.

Many times the subject starts off as one thing and nature guides the thread into another subject that takes over and continues.  There are open threads on here about exchanges that closed 3 years ago and I still see them pop up.  That is because the subject went from that bad exchange into scamming and stealing and security and such and is still getting posts based on that last reply. 

If you self-moderate the thread, you have the ability to close it at anytime.  If you do not, that means the admins have to close it and there are way too many threads here to track and read them all.  If the subject wanders off-topic and stays there, post and let everyone know that you are going to open a new thread based on the new topic and because the OP has gotten lost in the thread, give them 24 hours notice.  Be nice, this is not you playing God, it is you guiding the forum users to a new thread that is titled more subject appropriate. Come back the next day, start the new thread, title it to make the new subject, tick the self-moderated box, and post the link as the last post in your old thread.  Read back to your announcement and make sure no one protested what you were doing and then, close the old thread. 

Also, if there is a single person posting off-topic and the rest are on-topic, you can delete their posts from a thread.  This is not a license to remove those comments that you do not like from the thread because you dislike the person or the comments are against your service or subject.  If you are selling a service/product/coin, it is a real important thing to show your people how you handled a client/complaint.  They all saw the reply before you deleted it and that is a bad way to show your business ethics.

[botany]

One thing to anyone that starts a thread here on the forum.

Make sure that you always mark the self-moderated box on any thread that you start.  Make sure that you watch your own thread and try to take part in it.

If you start a self-moderated thread, I (and many others) will not post in it.
If the moderators questionably delete any of my posts, I can at least appeal against it in Meta.
In a self-moderated thread, I wouldn't even have that option.

[vaxo_nba]

Dear author, my two posts were deleted and the reason that is given below is a template and nothing mre. I don't think that the posts were supposed to be deleted, they were somehow connected to topic.

[morantis]

Dear author, my two posts were deleted and the reason that is given below is a template and nothing mre. I don't think that the posts were supposed to be deleted, they were somehow connected to topic.

if you wrote the posts and you can only state that they are "somehow" related to the topic, then something is wrong, and, in addition to that if you do not like the choices the mods here make, then you should start your own forum and apply whatever rule set you want to your membership

[morantis]

One thing to anyone that starts a thread here on the forum.

Make sure that you always mark the self-moderated box on any thread that you start.  Make sure that you watch your own thread and try to take part in it.

If you start a self-moderated thread, I (and many others) will not post in it.
If the moderators questionably delete any of my posts, I can at least appeal against it in Meta.
In a self-moderated thread, I wouldn't even have that option.

perfect, there are far too many forum posters and members on here that believe that being on an internet forum for a few years makes them something special.  off topic replies and posts is the topic of this thread and the OP CLEARLY states that every reply should contain some portion that is on topic(as per the OP) and that all others would be deleted.  Your reply here has violated that very protocol and the post was not deleted.  this is because there is simply not enough time for the mods to get every one.  self moderation on some of my threads gives me the ability to delete posts of members that think an internet forum rank based on nothing more than time and typing giver them the right to break rules.  

[Vikash kumar]

it is true that this forum does  not accept off-topic replies if you do so then it may be you are excluded from this forum without any information. so we sugest you that never give any chance for exclusion.

[patrickj]

Off-topic post should be removed. That's a good idea. I like it.

Yeah I agree, I have post that been deleted 2 times. But now I've learned a lesson so I check my replies before posting it. More power to the founder, staffs, and devs of this site. Hoping for long business with you.

[Spoetnik]

it is true that this forum does  not accept off-topic replies if you do so then it may be you are excluded from this forum without any information. so we sugest you that never give any chance for exclusion.

uhh what ? LOL

How about people stick to their sections ?
If you don't know English how about STFU ?

And off topic ? Gimme a bloody break 
That section is worthless garbage and should be deleted.
Account farming scumbags have raped it beyond comprehension.

Check out this crap.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2007985.0

It's a spam fest and i don't know why staff are tolerating it.
They added a sticky and it improved slightly for a bit then they went right back to it.

[Blue2012]

Off-topic post should be removed. That's a good idea. I like it.

I just want to ask, what if you see the off topic reply and your reply it but your reply is connected on the topic what happen if dev removed the said off topic you post will removed too?

[JJriver]

I very much agree with you, it's time to fight with spammers and such kind of people, clog the airs make a discussion of a serious topic in the farce.

[rido]

indeed why is it ,, is there any effect besides if sending through the topic or really not be allowed.

[deadthings]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

I think there are too many of them to get rid of them, but if everyone would do what you ask then who knows we could get rid of this problem forever.

[overlord_44]

You' re absolutely right Sir.  I will be with you and I report this kind of things.

[andi650]

Dear admin ....
please release my banned my account .. my name account Reza16...
im really dont know off topic ...
please give me this time only .. Please

[jinksters09]

I agree. Do not post off topic because on the first place, this website created to give personal opinion about the topic or answer the question ask. Posting off topic may cause like the page is like a game. If many of us post off topic its become meaningless.

[Fria]

I just want to raise a question about Off-topic comments. What is your basis on off-topic?
This is not just a Bitcoin topic forum right? But why is it some topics that are related to Bitcoin is deleted? It really indeed unfair, and moderator wasn't trying to check if the thread is actually valid itself.

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Reply with quoteReply with quote  Remove this messageDelete 
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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Is Hal Finey is the Satoshi Nakamoto? He just send coins into his own wallet? Do experts are speculating him as to be the real Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto?

Do this post isn't related to Bitcoin? Is Hal Filey and Satoshi Nakamoto isn't related to this forum?

OMG! what's happening? Somebody can give me clear answer!!!

[dillpicklechips]

I just want to raise a question about Off-topic comments. What is your basis on off-topic?
This is not just a Bitcoin topic forum right? But why is it some topics that are related to Bitcoin is deleted? It really indeed unfair, and moderator wasn't trying to check if the thread is actually valid itself.

Deleted Post
« Sent to: Fria on: November 02, 2017, 03:06:21 PM »
Reply with quoteReply with quote  Remove this messageDelete 
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Quote
Is Hal Finey is the Satoshi Nakamoto? He just send coins into his own wallet? Do experts are speculating him as to be the real Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto?

Do this post isn't related to Bitcoin? Is Hal Filey and Satoshi Nakamoto isn't related to this forum?

OMG! what's happening? Somebody can give me clear answer!!!

It is trashy. Base on my understanding, you are saying that a person is Satoshi Nakamoto because he send coins to his own wallet. If I send coins to my wallet then I am Satoshi Nakamoto?

[whiteseven]

How can I separate off-topic and on topic?
Now I can not judge off-topic easy.

[mxyzptlkof6th]

Users that post off topic replies should be banned because it is counted as a spam. If you want to be a legend, climb your way up and prove your worth.

[Burmik123]

Users that post off topic replies should be banned because it is counted as a spam. If you want to be a legend, climb your way up and prove your worth.

I think that ban is really strict punishment for off-topick replies. For example newbies always make off-topicks replies so they can be banned because of it. At the start of this topic moderator told, that he will delete off-topick comments. I think that he is right.

[TianaStam]

So I simply don't need to visit off-topic board and to comment there. I have take a look on this board and it looks just like a trash. All weak threads are going there obviously.

[lostinbtc]

is there a way to change the forum skin?

[LegionCoin]

thank sir for the help

[Sofinard09]

just my opinion towards off topic , maybe they can't explain clearly their thoughts towards the topic.

[carizmerlin31]

Ok sir! thanks for his information!
now i found the answer why some of my post was deleted!
i did not know that my post was has same content with other people!
but its ok.. maybe need to read all comments first before i post my comments on the forum so that there will be no alike to my post!
Thanks again sir! have a blessed day ahead!

[GoldMen]

That is to say that if we have some idea that is not so consistent but does not deviate from the subject, it will be eliminated?

[Aishiteru]

Thats correct.Never post off-topic replies just to increase our posts or activities but then sometimes we are expecting that our post replies are relevant. Is there any criteria for the post replies to be relevant ?

[Best80]

Moderators should make this section compulsory for newbies(possibly before registration) , I believe it will help us to know how to comment on topics and will surely reduce the level of making posts not in line with the topic of discussion. Thanks

[Mademoiselle]

Moderators should make this section compulsory for newbies(possibly before registration) , I believe it will help us to know how to comment on topics and will surely reduce the level of making posts not in line with the topic of discussion. Thanks

Same issue here, i have posted a couple of replies there, at first it counts on the post and activity but after a day or so when i refresh it disappear, i dont know how that happened and it's wasting my ideas I'm sharing. 

[actmyname]

Same issue here, i have posted a couple of replies there, at first it counts on the post and activity but after a day or so when i refresh it disappear, i dont know how that happened and it's wasting my ideas I'm sharing. 

Activity and posts disappearing? That would be when you make shitty posts that are insubstantial. It's a you problem and so none of your ideas are being wasted.

There's no value in posts that are deleted and so the only thing that is wasted is both your and the moderators' time.

[PETMALU11]

I agree for that because non related topic or off topic will not recognize and your making yourself witty, Your time and effort were being wasted. So that make your post related to avoid deleted post.

[cj_tip]

Based on my very limited experience here I think as long as you make an honest attempt to reply to the topic at hand, even if you digress a bit, it's OK.  But replies like "I agree"  "totally agree" are just a bit too lazy... lol   Other forums may have functions that allow people to just upvote the previous comment to show they are in agreement.  We don't have that here.  Perhaps this is part of the reason some people post comments like that.   Well, now we are warned.  Don't do it.  lol

[standley940]

Yes gan I've seen also the ones who reply on our topic

[diatamariono]

tell someone else's mistakes better, maybe someone does not know how to post a good and right thing ,,
so, in my opinion better wrong post people are told the correct post way ,,

[Happydd]

I agree with this, we do not post posts outside the topic. If you want to post content that is relevant to your topic, then your article will be of high quality. If you post the wrong topic or copy the content is at risk of nick lock. You can not participate in any bitcoin campaign.

[sirojuddin]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

should not be notified after the topic off replay is removed?
because I think it's better with the purpose of the person concerned does not repeat the same thing ..
this is just my advice

[CodyAlfaridzi]

should not be notified after the topic off replay is removed?
because I think it's better with the purpose of the person concerned does not repeat the same thing ..
this is just my advice

You will get a notification after the post has been removed.

[LemonF3]

The concept of off/on topic in threads is really really difficult. The solution I've been most successful with (and I'm pre-Internet chatforum moderator old) is to have the original poster decide when the discussion that follows is on or off topic.

Else you end up in situations where the thread starter is fully ok with the discussion and a moderator starts deleting posts.

(In this case it should be somewhat easy for moderators to see if it's the thread starter that Reports to Moderator with "off topic" as reason)

This is not fair to the people responding to a topic, IMO. People who reply to topics should know that if they are on-topic and they follow the rules, they will not be censored. Also, it is very annoying for reply-writers when they write long, detailed responses and then the topics become off-topic and useless.

Maintaining perfect on-topicness is difficult. In the future, discussions may be made threaded instead of flat, which will basically be like having a system that automatically creates new topics when people are posting off-topic things (in many cases).

I agree. Off topic posts will sometimes lead to another topic especially if others will also reply to that post. It is best to stick to the topic and give more informations that will be of great help to fellow bitcoiners.

[tues]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

So I saw XMen: First Class the other day, it was actually pretty good ... there was was this one scene where everyo....

JK. Will report those posts as necessary.

to use lacedwithkerosen's reply as an example.
if he did not include the last line "JK. Will report those posts as necessary." this post when reported would've gotten 100% accuracy rating being that it is irrelevant the topic.

Now, is it true to say his reply is 100% relevant to the topic, because of the last line. resulting in a 0% accuracy rating if reported.
Or is this percentage adjusted by the messages' majority relevance to the topic. eg.  of the 168 characters in lacedwithkerosen's reply  41 of them are relevant to the message. would that then make the accuracy rating 24% accurate if reported.

[zeref dragneel]

agreed ..i truely support the terms..

[jaydoes6]

I'm trying to keep away from whole of btcs and I am never going to join there

[pajrinn]

I agree with the merit program now, but in this forum users from all over the world, and many also are not proficient in english, with not adept in english, the post can be out of the topic

[argonresonates3]

I don't post anything in any section I just surf and try ti accumulate informations about btcs

[Jhiesha]

Quote from: theymos on June 10, 2011, 04:39:36 AM
Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see.



I very much agree with this.  I read and understand first the topics very carefully before commenting on it.

[cabalism13]

Sir, many have been reported already but still their post hasn't been removed yet. It's kinda annoying to see those posts everyday shitting on this section also on the forum itself.
I know you're kinda busy but still I hope that you'll be able to do something about it, that's why I, as one with OP of the thread proposing that newbies will be given the limit or be prohibit by opening their threads. I thought its a best thing to do for them to focus on reading and searching.

[arumiedes]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or creates a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Detecting posts outside of this topic if the manual is felt to be difficult is there an additional app on bitcointalk.org to detect the same word in the next thread or make it automatically erased when it finds posts off topic.

[andrew1carlssin]

What is off topic depends of lot of the interpretation the moderator gives to your post ...

I am pretty sure, as a computer scientist, that my last deleted post was not off-topic ...   most of the time I even make citation of scientific papers etc.
Honestly how come people talking about bootstrapping p2p system without mention or do analogies the history of modern computer  

[sncc]

I do not want to post the wrong topic but to me it is very difficult, because I do not know much about it

I would suggest you to look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0 for a while and get yourself used to that section.  Then you can post there asking questions without making off topic posts.  You can then go and look at other sections for a while without posting, and repeat the process.

[pandaki85]

I see what you're saying. This is the place where minds meet, ideas are born, information is shared, and people are advanced who care enough about the Bitcoin. But, they provided a reply related to a preferred topic rather than something related to the current topic of conversation.

Let's make this forum better!

[Solomon3158]

Sir In my other account I was banned due to off topics status have written an apology to the email on my home page.  PETER2680 pls Sir is there any assurance that my account will be open again sir.  Please sir. I am a novice of this but have learnt my lesson.

[xetofficial]

What do you mean by off topic, if I am replying with Thank you for the very informative information? Does it counts as off- topic as well?

[Solomon3158]

That what I thought affected my account. But the issues is will I reinstate back again after writing all the apology etc. Please I need help plss.

[KWH]

That what I thought affected my account. But the issues is will I reinstate back again after writing all the apology etc. Please I need help plss.

You do realize you are ban evading and could get this account banned as well?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

[Deepa Singh]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Surely i'll let you know, but if I have any query or doubt related to any subject on the forum, I can ask right?

[sncc]

Surely i'll let you know, but if I have any query or doubt related to any subject on the forum, I can ask right?

theymos was talking about posts that are not related to the OP of that thread.  Of course you can post anything as long as it is related to the OP of that thread, otherwise you should start a new topic in an appropriate section where the new topic fits.

[coinnumber]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Surely i'll let you know, but if I have any query or doubt related to any subject on the forum, I can ask right?

Honestly posting off topic has turned a big challenge here  in the forum as many members just come to spam the forum I guess maybe they don't read the rules because many of us here are beginners so deleting post that are off topic will be a good move thanks for this great and motivating idea.

[coinscan]

The reality is that, I do not know where to write the first message. (Therefore, I write here).

Off-topic replies have become a big problem.

I want to report about beginning of travelogue on the forum. Hello world!

I also wish to join in your words

I'll never ShitPost using this account to maintain the decorum of the forum.

When can we expect to see some new rules to clarify the uncertainty? The problem of spam/farmers (bounty).

[JanetGray12a14]

I sympathize with the idea because when we reply we should not go far beyond the problem of the article but instead focus on the question we asked in the post, avoid stray threads and drift posts so that people can focus on the ching content of the question

[JosefinaCrane]

yes its true when there is an off topic reply, when people are looking for some serious reply and they find non interesting and not-related posts, its not actually good for the moderator as well the post user.

[supercryptogeek]

Help! Please let me know who I should contact regarding regaining my old access to cryptomommy. I no longer have access to the old email. Is there an admin I should send this request to?

[TryNinja]

Help! Please let me know who I should contact regarding regaining my old access to cryptomommy. I no longer have access to the old email. Is there an admin I should send this request to?

Please don't go to a thread called "Do not post off-topic replies" and post an off-topic reply...

You'll need to follow these instructions: Recovering hacked accounts or accounts with lost passwords

[JakELips]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

You deleted some of my posts - and they weren't off-topic. Maybe I just had a diffenrent opinion to yours?
I am really angry atm and I think to boycott this crappy forum in the future. This is censorship at it's best.

Just to give you an example. There is a new blockchain project that tries to solve the problem with the scalability.
I said that I think that scalability is the biggest problem of nowadays blockchain and I hope that the project can solve it.

The post was deleted because it was off-topic?
This is just BS.

[virendarnagpal]

Really welcome step.  If I post some question; and get reply for the other; it is of no use.  So  this step will motivate members to write to the mark.  Reply to the question really asked ; and not just post two lines for the purpose of fulfilling signature campaign requirements. 
Already merit system as done a great for the forum and I think now this decision will further add to the quality of the forum discussions .

[aahvachandra]

Hey Legendary peoples. I have a question what if one of my posts is deleted by moderators and according to me it's not at all an off-topic post? What can I do?? Please someone give me a reply over this.

[crypt0j0e]

Just to give you an example. There is a new blockchain project that tries to solve the problem with the scalability.
I said that I think that scalability is the biggest problem of nowadays blockchain and I hope that the project can solve it.

The post was deleted because it was off-topic?
This is just BS.

An off-topic reply can be just one of many reasons for why a moderator deleted your post. It's possible that someone reported your reply as low quality since most of your posts are bounty related. Or maybe someone found your post to be inaccurate because scalability is already being addressed by so many different projects now so it's not that much of a problem today.

I am really angry atm and I think to boycott this crappy forum in the future. This is censorship at it's best.

Either way, i respect what the moderators are trying to do with new rules and trying to reduce spam. I've had posts deleted as well but do you see me getting angry? Anyway, if you want to leave you're more than welcome to do so but just keep in mind this forum is moderated and it's a privilege to be a member. So they can delete any post that doesn't belong here because they want the forum to remain useful for many years to come.

[Ace Amias]

The post-off-topic replies are creating many of the problems for the newbie especially they cannot get the correct information and will result in spreading wrong information. So I think it must be deleted.

[bitarmor]

Honestly, most times I really do not understand the rules in this forum; it always seems like a dictatorship to me.
Maybe because I am a newbie is why my voice and thoughts do not seem relevant to the bitcoin community.

I usually spend time on the technical discussions because I love technical topics; most time if I reply to or quote someone's posts, the moderator achow101 or gmaxwell, i do not know who usually does that will just delete my post without warning.  I try not to advertise or insult anyone and i always make sure that my posts are never off but it just gets deleted. This really discourages me from posting or even sharing my thoughts and you guys know how that looks on my badge profile.   

A list of official rules should be made and pinned somewhere where everyone at the index page could see and refer to.

Another thing, if a newbie quotes a higher-rank member's quotes that contains links, it really looks bad to see "suspicious link removed" meanwhile you just quoted someone else on the same board.

I believe we are all here to add value in own our little ways; blockchain has big potentials for the world. I come from a place where access to computers isn't luxury and I and a few others are trying to see how we can utilise technology to improve lives around here. If this forum has such strict procedures, I wonder what we are actually trying to achieve.

Mods, please take note. Thanks!!

[bitarmor]

Just to give you an example. There is a new blockchain project that tries to solve the problem with the scalability.
I said that I think that scalability is the biggest problem of nowadays blockchain and I hope that the project can solve it.

The post was deleted because it was off-topic?
This is just BS.

An off-topic reply can be just one of many reasons for why a moderator deleted your post. It's possible that someone reported your reply as low quality since most of your posts are bounty related. Or maybe someone found your post to be inaccurate because scalability is already being addressed by so many different projects now so it's not that much of a problem today.

I am really angry atm and I think to boycott this crappy forum in the future. This is censorship at it's best.

Either way, i respect what the moderators are trying to do with new rules and trying to reduce spam. I've had posts deleted as well but do you see me getting angry? Anyway, if you want to leave you're more than welcome to do so but just keep in mind this forum is moderated and it's a privilege to be a member. So they can delete any post that doesn't belong here because they want the forum to remain useful for many years to come.

A post can be deleted but you should be warned first, I suggest.

Picture this,
JakElips is a newbie on this forum but has been a blockchain enthusiast for a while and he identifies a problem that needs addressing; now he mightn't know that scalability is already being discussed somewhere else. [the way this forum is designed makes some topics and i don't mean boards uneasy to find]
So he thinks that his project has some potentials and then talks about it on a thread trying to get people to share what they think.
If a mod already knows that it has been discussed somewhere else, why not make it known in a reply or something so that JakElips and a few others that we should assume have never given scalability a thought can have a chance to explore. It could be possible that JakElips could take a cue or two from there to improve on his own project.
It shouldn't just get deleted without warning; think of the number of users that could have either learnt something or contribute their own knowledge to the post that got deleted.  Not everyone has intentions to scam!

[justsimpleram]

This will help to the other members with more care to their posting, because I saw a lot new members here just posting for the sake of their bounties and their posting off-topic replies to some thread that can be useful to others and useful for them if they read it carefully and take it deeper.

[fubly]

A post can be deleted but you should be warned first, I suggest.

can be deleted and manipulated if you wrote here something which is true and has a 100% evidence on a thread you not moderates your self. 😂😭😭😭

edit: typo edits

[Millionero]

If a mod deletes your post, can it affect your member rating?

[Veleor]

If a mod deletes your post, can it affect your member rating?

Deleted posts affect Activity. If Activity would be less than required, member's rank will go down.
For example, a former Full Member korner deleted all his posts himself and became a Newbie.

[jamyr]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

I have been reporting off-topic replies once in a while and been proud with my 100% accuracy.

However today as I was about to report a clear off-topic post, I noticed that my accuracy has been tarnished.
It maybe an oddity as I have 10 reports with 88% accuracy, it would have been okay if it says 90% as that would have made 1/10 to be inaccurate but 88%.

Thank you.

[Nnuego]

I think notifying people about there off topic replies is still good, so that they'll know where they give irrelevant suggestion to the topic been discuss. Deleting their post without notice, will still make them repeating the same off topic replies

[STT]

Its ironic that the post removed is not given any context when stated as deleted usually.    I'm just trying to understand why a little better, so I'll repost here the mistake I made that required moderation and maybe its obvious to someone.   Maybe its someone just hammering report but I doubt its that simple.


The OP thread title is 'Re: What will happen if the all countries convert to cryptocurrency?' and the OP post is:

Now that more and more countries are starting to go cashless (http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20180427-does-a-cashless-society-benefit-everyone), is it possible that we also start converting to cryptocurrency? If that happens, what do you think are the advantages and disadvantages? Paying virtually is very convenient for me as I do not have to bring cash and it prevents petty theft but what is the disadvantage?

I responded:

My reasoning was SDR and the IMF head has discussed use of blockchain as an alternative to national currencies.   Its just talk right now but failure is rarely planned, it could happen.    It would not be proper crypto as its centralised but most people would associate and consider it relevant to the OP topic I thought.   I could have posted a source alongside my post, do I need to do this more to justify my opinions perhaps.

The only national cyptocurrency I've heard of really is Venezuela and its a country under sanctions and press restrictions, I didnt mention it as its an opaque situation sadly.



Another topic I have no context for, I posted and had removed this post and again I'm not sure of the mistake.   I dont care about arguing the point especially but if anyone sees my mistake so I dont repeat it I'd appreciate the detail:

[Mila52]

I ask for help from respected members of the forum. I don't know who to turn to. Help me,pls, with advice, some kind of obsession - today all 27 of my posts in the last 3 weeks have been deleted by Bitcoin Forum moderator.
I welcome your desire to clear the forum of spam. But why each of my new posts is deleted in different topics? How can this happen? I have't violated the forum rules, I don't spam, my posts aren't plagiarism, but my personal judgments and opinions.
Help me,pls
I can't give links to all my deleted posts, but here is an example

[Lafu]

~~~~

Maybe the posts you have done was off topic in the threads you have written !
A other thing what can be is that the threads you has written was self moderated and the thread owner has deleted it !
The last possible thing is that somebody has reported your post and the Moderators have delete it !

[rosezionjohn]

~~~~

Maybe the posts you have done was off topic in the threads you have written !
A other thing what can be is that the threads you has written was self moderated and the thread owner has deleted it !
The last possible thing is that somebody has reported your post and the Moderators have delete it !

Another possible reason is that you (Mila52) have quoted a reported & deleted comment which also makes your reply irrelevant to the discussion in the eyes of forum moderators.

Hey Legendary peoples. I have a question what if one of my posts is deleted by moderators and according to me it's not at all an off-topic post? What can I do?? Please someone give me a reply over this.

Deleted posts won't be restored. Just move on and improve your next posts or comments. Try not post redundant and outdated replies.

[Mila52]

Thank you for help. I am informed with the rules of the forum and try not to violate them. This is evidenced by my rank and activity. I wrote in different topics and I never offtopic, I never spam and never plagiarize and didn't reported someone else’s posts. It's the first time all my posts (27 posts) that written within a month deleted  in one day.

[yura04071989]

What to do if the entire announcement of the project is filled with one-line phrases like: "Nice project!!!", "cool... nice project ..im happy to be in"?
Should I press the "Report to moderator" button for each message, or is it enough to do it for the author of the first/topic post?
An example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4461242.220, 12 pages ...

[masulum]

What to do if the entire announcement of the project is filled with one-line phrases like: "Nice project!!!", "cool... nice project ..im happy to be in"?
Should I press the "Report to moderator" button for each message, or is it enough to do it for the author of the first/topic post?
An example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4461242.220, 12 pages ...

Based on my experience.

• Report to moderator for OP if the thread starter asks airdrop or bounty hunter to make a comment to their thread as a part to get rewards. You can add a proof about it in your report description.
• For any spam post/low quality post on a thread you mentioned, you must report each message one by one.

[ArickAslam0]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

For those who are newbie or junior members, try to build your own ID without worrying about the bounty or the signature campaign.  If you can contribute a good amount to the forum, the forum will also allow you to earn side income automatically.  By posting and replying to quality you can be a good member of the forum.  By taking your profile to a better position and increasing your knowledge of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies you can take yourself to another level.  At the same time participate in ICO based bounties as you see and participate.  Because of these, as the number of spam posts increases, the quality of ID also decreases.  Also important is the matter of payment.  If the bounty coins do not come to the market or the price is too low, then you are the loser.
Now i am also try to build my account. And Iam very hopeful...

[BASE16]

Deleted posts won't be restored. Just move on and improve your next posts or comments. Try not post redundant and outdated replies.

I posted two times with a spot on reply that was most certainly on topic yet some fool feels the need to delete my posts.
It's rubbish.

[feitannnnnnn]

Deleted posts won't be restored. Just move on and improve your next posts or comments. Try not post redundant and outdated replies.

I posted two times with a spot on reply that was most certainly on topic yet some fool feels the need to delete my posts.
It's rubbish.

Its either the moderator see your post unrelated and irrelevant, or your reply is broad yet vague that may relate but has too many flaws to be in that post.

[Baskeyairdrop]

Reading through posts it seems there is an off topic reply in every thread.

There are a lot of threads on bitcointalk and I sometimes marvel at how they all get moderated. Anyways, my suggestion is the report to moderator link below the reply should be used to report such members so it would be easy for moderators to easily find these off topic replies.

[hilariousandco]

Reading through posts it seems there is an off topic reply in every thread.

There are a lot of threads on bitcointalk and I sometimes marvel at how they all get moderated. Anyways, my suggestion is if there can be a link/button on every reply on a thread where users can click to report off topic replies in a thread so it would be easy for moderators to easily find these off topic replies.

You mean the Report to moderator button at the left of every post?  

[Baskeyairdrop]

Reading through posts it seems there is an off topic reply in every thread.

There are a lot of threads on bitcointalk and I sometimes marvel at how they all get moderated. Anyways, my suggestion is if there can be a link/button on every reply on a thread where users can click to report off topic replies in a thread so it would be easy for moderators to easily find these off topic replies.

You mean the Report to moderator button at the left of every post?  

Yes that is what I mean. I already edited my post. All these while I never even noticed the report to moderator link was there but now I know. It should be used to help moderators report these kind of off topic replies.

[IKIK]

I suggest every off topic replies should be either deleted or reported. Without this action people wouldn't learn.

Some people kept posting off topic simply because they want to attain merit forgotten things aren't done that way.
Nevertheless such post should be reported and deleted

[Delighty slyde]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Off Topic sometimes may gives room to a new idea of things, in this case I suggest warning at first sight.

[Ahli38]

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.

Is it when we discuss a forum and provide an explanation of a problem or opinion, do we have to include relevant sources for the answers we have given?

and may I have an opinion in commenting on a particular topic which is of course without reference and is not off topic?

thank you very much 

[Patrol69]

There are a lot of off topic posts on the forum that many people post on. I think it's better to post on the current topic rather than posting on those off-topics. Because if you post on the current topic, the current information will spread to everyone, as a result of which many people will get new information from this forum.  So I think we should definitely post in a new topic. and our refraining from posting on any off-trophic posts.

[Solokan]

That's how it should be, because the existence of such rules will make the discussion of higher quality. and to be honest my post has also been deleted in the near future, but deleting my post will certainly make me learn again, and have to improve the quality of my DISCUSSION.

having such rules means this forum is a quality discussion forum.

[Donneski]

I suggest every off topic replies should be either deleted or reported. Without this action people wouldn't learn.

Some people kept posting off topic simply because they want to attain merit forgotten things aren't done that way.
Nevertheless such post should be reported and deleted

As a newbie, I've seen several off topic replies and it does totally get a reader confused. I think the best way to address this issue is for the forum to provide platform(s) where this off topic replies can be reported so that such persons can be warned of the dangers of off topic replies and if a person is reported more than three times, such person can be sanctioned accordingly. It'll help in reducing the number of off topic replies in the Forum

[Pingrapole]

It's not right to discuss something on topic then it reduces the tendency to create something new which takes us forward and backwards which slows down our work a lot. We should be right.

If each discussion is not on topic then it becomes difficult to read and understand and distracts us from the main goal.

Those who are responsible as our boss should identify the posts and remove them quickly so that our exclusion rate will decrease which will increase our tendency to work in the future.


According to my own opinion the authorities should take proper action against them then no one will post off topic which will help us to make something better.Those who are posting outside the world should now post topically to help new comers like us to learn then our mission and mission of the organization will be fully fulfilled which is our sock.

All of us should be interested in posting on topic so that we have the mindset to do something new and act as a role model for others.
I would finally like to say that our bosses have the foresight to take notice of these and take appropriate action.