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February 12, 2017, 08:05:46 AM
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There are 17 bar of 100 BTC in circulation ... I have read this infirmation and photo here:

quote author=Chainsaw link=topic=41892.msg11536284#msg11536284 date=1433450019
On thread of casascius

17? interesting...you sure?














 

 

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February 12, 2017, 08:18:30 AM
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There are 17 bar of 100 BTC in circulation ... I have read this infirmation and photo here:

quote author=Chainsaw link=topic=41892.msg11536284#msg11536284 date=1433450019
On thread of casascius

17? interesting...you sure?

Sorry if you read 17 are active of S1 and total minted are 57

Here you can read and see the photo:

Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41892.1120

and here you can see total mint and total active, here you can read 100 BTC bar S1 minted 57 active 17 ... and S2 series minted 87 and active 57

Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.0

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February 12, 2017, 09:03:32 AM
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There are 17 bar of 100 BTC in circulation ... I have read this infirmation and photo here:

quote author=Chainsaw link=topic=41892.msg11536284#msg11536284 date=1433450019
On thread of casascius

17? interesting...you sure?

Sorry if you read 17 are active of S1 and total minted are 57

Here you can read and see the photo:

Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41892.1120

and here you can see total mint and total active, here you can read 100 BTC bar S1 minted 57 active 17 ... and S2 series minted 87 and active 57

Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.0

WOW! so maybe this isn't so rare after all?  ill bid 1 BTC Smiley

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February 12, 2017, 09:32:15 AM
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Thinking about selling my 100 btc gold bar.


Very RARE !  Casascius 100 BTC Bar. Unfunded  Bar #04170469

One 100 Bitcoin Bar


100 BTC gold plated bar

    Weight: 4.2oz
    Dimensions: 8cm x 4cm x 0.6cm
    Printed year: none
    Indented features: "100 BTC", Bitcoin logo, "gold plated bearer bar"
    Hologram: V1 or V2


Asking 5.5 bitcoin    Now Open For offers

please send your e mail.. I do not know how too post them on here.

Have lot's of photos,   

Photo below of bar #04170455 from my ebay ad
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MS8AAOSw32lYn1Zk/s-l1600.jpg


Wait, did I read this right?  You are selling "Unfunded  Bar #04170469"

And the bar on your eBay listing is : 04170455 Huh?

How many of these limited 4 bar items do you own ?

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February 12, 2017, 10:48:35 AM
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I'd love one of these, at the right price! Wink


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February 12, 2017, 11:13:52 AM
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These are not the bars I know of from cflow. The one I had at one point was the bar with the upside down holo and red dot. Regardless, they're still great pieces to have.














 

 

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February 12, 2017, 11:45:31 AM
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These are not normal 100B bars.  They were produced by Mike C roughly 2 yrs ago.  Bitguy to my knowledge, arranged with Mike to get these.  There were only 4 bars like this, and another 8 with the holo upside down and with a dot added on the holo.  Another one of a kind 1000B bar was made.  They were sold unfunded due to the regulation issues.

We discussed the history of these in the Encyclopedia.

Bitguy2016 and monkeynuts can chime in if they like.

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February 12, 2017, 02:09:41 PM
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I'd offer 1.25 BTC

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February 12, 2017, 03:09:13 PM
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These are not normal 100B bars.  They were produced by Mike C roughly 2 yrs ago.  Bitguy to my knowledge, arranged with Mike to get these.  There were only 4 bars like this, and another 8 with the holo upside down and with a dot added on the holo.  Another one of a kind 1000B bar was made.  They were sold unfunded due to the regulation issues.

We discussed the history of these in the Encyclopedia.

Bitguy2016 and monkeynuts can chime in if they like.


So............. no one is questioning the item for sale?

OP says he is selling: Unfunded Bar #04170469

And the bar on HIS eBay listing is : 04170455

(Photo below of bar #04170455 from my ebay ad
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MS8AAOSw32lYn1Zk/s-l1600.jpg)

Are there more than 4 Bars in existence? is the encyclopedia incorrect?

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February 12, 2017, 03:17:32 PM
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There are 17 bar of 100 BTC in circulation ... I have read this infirmation and photo here:

quote author=Chainsaw link=topic=41892.msg11536284#msg11536284 date=1433450019
On thread of casascius

 There remains 17 funded, version one, 100 BTC bars.
There are a larger number of version two bars.

 This offering is not funded, it represents a different, limited offering Mike did. I am pretty sure the mintage is much higher than four, that is just how many we know about.

 I shifted focus a few years back to acquiring the most limited mintage pieces. My long-term view is that if the collectible community fails, it won't matter what the specific investments are. If the collectible community takes off, we will have more collectors, and the goal of completing sets will apply the most pressure to those pieces with the most limited mintage.

 To that end, something like this is a neat buy,   But only as a longer term speculative investment with potentially a complete loss, and also potentially a multiple-fold gain.

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February 12, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
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I'd offer 1.25 BTC

Ill do 1.3BTC escrow with minerjones














 

 

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I'd offer 1.25 BTC

Ill do 1.3BTC escrow with minerjones


1.35 BTC

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OP, is this an auction now, or you are simply stating you want to possibly sell this bar?


I haven't seen recent replies about any offers?

ARE you selling this or not?

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February 13, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
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These are not normal 100B bars.  They were produced by Mike C roughly 2 yrs ago.  Bitguy to my knowledge, arranged with Mike to get these.  There were only 4 bars like this, and another 8 with the holo upside down and with a dot added on the holo.  Another one of a kind 1000B bar was made.  They were sold unfunded due to the regulation issues.

We discussed the history of these in the Encyclopedia.

Bitguy2016 and monkeynuts can chime in if they like.


So............. no one is questioning the item for sale?

OP says he is selling: Unfunded Bar #04170469

And the bar on HIS eBay listing is : 04170455

(Photo below of bar #04170455 from my ebay ad
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MS8AAOSw32lYn1Zk/s-l1600.jpg)

Are there more than 4 Bars in existence? is the encyclopedia incorrect?

Thanks!
     hello  not at this time, thank you for the offer
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I wrote to bitguy asking him for his input.  In the meantime, here is the text from one of bitguy's / cflow previous ebay auctions related to this item...

ABOUT THIS ITEM FOR SALE:  Only 4 ever made! (only 2 left in stock and then never again)

If you are a Casascius collector, you have to have one or both versions of these!

EXTREMELY RARE!  Rarest of the rare. This is the 100 btc bar 2FA version. The only 100 btc bars that were made "non loaded". (These are not redeemed standard 100 btc bars.)

100 btc 2FA Bars are factory engraved on the hologram, "2Factor" by Mike Caldwell himself, the creator of Casascius. (2 factor version, which means there is a double layer of security in having a pass phrase associated with the bitcoin address. This prohibits anyone from redeeming the coin/bar without both the passphrase and the private key underneath the hologram. (We will provide passphrase with bar). Casascius never sees the original passphrase.

ALSO, I have had questions as to whether all bars were originally made loaded, the answer is NO. From Casascius website: "Available as a pre-loaded 100 BTC bar, as well as a non-denominated savings bar. "   The 100 btc bar offered prior was originally only sold loaded, and they are now obviously worth over $30K.  The hologram actually says zero btc if you look closely. This bar is factory new and the hologram was never peeled or tampered with.

You will receive a random numbered bar of the 4 produced.

TRADES WELCOME! Crypto or other non-crypto coins.

SEE THE FULL STORY BELOW.

MORE ABOUT THE PRODUCT AND INFO ON OTHER VARIANTS: CASASCIUS
History:
Casascius made only about 80 or less 100 btc bars,  loaded with 100 digital btc and far fewer 1000 btc ones. They only were sold loaded. I have dealt much with Mike Caldwell and in early 2014, after Casascius stopped selling loaded bitcoins due to regulatory issues, was able to work with him and convince him to let go of the only remaining bal of the "empty" 100 bars left. He also had 2- 1000 btc ones left empty.
He was not going to let them go as he didn't want to release any unloaded ones as to not confuse anyone and he felt loading them with 100 and 1000 btc loaded was just too much money these days. $30k to $300k, ouch!
He came up with and agreed to use "factory "zero btc" holograms. These are not re-manufactured redeemed 100 btc bars, these are factory original and factory produced. There were only 8- 100 btc bars made with regular key, and 4- 100 btc bars made 2FA, and 1- 1000 btc bar 2FA. (actually he did sell another 1000 btc bar on ebay and bids went up to $8k, wow!). We had 1 of the 100 btc bars and traded it for $7500 equivalent. (See picture of it for reference, but no, sorry, it is not available still.) I have provenance of these bars from Mike with PGP signed scan and bunch of emails, and will release/include info with the bar upon purchase.
Bars are as received from manufacturer and may contain minor abrasions to gold plating due to handling at the factory. 2FA Bars were was wrapped in clear cellophane for protection. Non 2FA bars are in orig factory thick plastic wrapped and should be mint. (this is normal, all bars I have seen and sold are this way.)
Price includes shipping and insurance.
 
*This is one of 12- 100btc bars known produced, of which 4 were stickered "zero btc" with "2FA" Lasered on hologram(2 factor security), other 8 were stickered "zero btc".
 
These have not been shown to the masses until now, just a couple friends/good cust.  Only have 2- 2FA, a few non 2FA left.
These are very valuable. I have sold/traded a few for around $2k+ ea.

 OTHER BARS AVAILABLE: We also have a few of the 100 btc non 2FA bars.
The non 2FA is stickered and is unique from Mike. There were only 8 made I believe that were non loaded. To comfortably sell the 100's non loaded non 2FA as not to confuse folks, which was never done before, Mike brainstormed and came up with the idea to add a zero btc holo, place it upside down, and place a sm red dot by the firstbits.
(Most reg bars were made in std, not 2FA, as mike used to engrave those on a per order basis and they are time consuming.)
 
To recap:
1. These are the only bars of either the 100, or 1000 denomination that were made and never funded. (Plus Mike did auction a 1000 non loaded bar on ebay for $8700)
2. The 1000 bar was stickered up as 2FA. The 100 bars are stickered as a mixture of 2FA and non 2FA.
3. The Non 2 FA 100's only 8 were made that were never funded. To uniquely identify them, and to be clear that these were not funded, these had a zero BTC hologram, and this was placed upside down on the bars. Additionally a small red dot was placed by the first bits.
4. The 2FA 100's only 4 were made that were never funded. These again have a zero BTC hologram on, but this is placed 'right way up', and has 2 Factor on the hologram. I am unclear if there were any 2FA 100's made that were funded, or if they were non 2fa only (but obviously the unique identifier is the zero BTC holo)
5. The 2FA 1000, is a one of a kind. This again has a zero BTC hologram on, but this is placed 'right way up', and has 2 Factor on the hologram.

Casascius Gold-Plated Savings Bar: Dress your Bitcoins for tomorrow, make them look their best in your vault today. Would weigh about 12 ounces if it were solid gold, this is a 4.2-ounce metal alloy bar with gold plating. A neat-looking novelty that looks unmistakably valuable. This version is a non-denominated savings bar. Bar is 80mm x 40mm x 6mm.

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February 13, 2017, 06:07:49 PM
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I can confirm from my direct dealings with Mike, from what he stated, these were the only leftover bars he had and he did these for me only.
He and I collaborated on these to accomplish these without them being funded. Mike came up with the zero btc holo and the upside down and red dot variants. I have never seen any others pop up that did not match the numbers I have on these and the other limited bars I had.
I can confirm out of the 4- 2FA 100 btc ones, the ending numbers on the holos end with: 40,24,69,55, and that all were sold/traded.
I believe this corresponds with both holos shown.
I can also confirm the value/selling price on these definitely exceeded the offers on the thread.


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There are 17 bar of 100 BTC in circulation ... I have read this infirmation and photo here:

quote author=Chainsaw link=topic=41892.msg11536284#msg11536284 date=1433450019
On thread of casascius

 There remains 17 funded, version one, 100 BTC bars.
There are a larger number of version two bars.

 This offering is not funded, it represents a different, limited offering Mike did. I am pretty sure the mintage is much higher than four, that is just how many we know about.

 I shifted focus a few years back to acquiring the most limited mintage pieces. My long-term view is that if the collectible community fails, it won't matter what the specific investments are. If the collectible community takes off, we will have more collectors, and the goal of completing sets will apply the most pressure to those pieces with the most limited mintage.

 To that end, something like this is a neat buy,   But only as a longer term speculative investment with potentially a complete loss, and also potentially a multiple-fold gain.
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February 13, 2017, 06:20:49 PM
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Serious question, was the forum account (bitcoin420miningpools) created for the purpose of selling this 100btc bar?


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February 13, 2017, 09:03:10 PM
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Serious question, was the forum account (bitcoin420miningpools) created for the purpose of selling this 100btc bar?
hello.. no I have a solo mining pool 
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Serious question, was the forum account (bitcoin420miningpools) created for the purpose of selling this 100btc bar?
hello.. no I have a solo mining pool 

Thanks, I was wondering since selling such a high priced item on a new account may require you to use escrow.

I did notice on the ebay auction you have "PAYMENT BITCOIN ONLY" specified.  I wasn't aware that could be enforced and am wondering if you could provide some pointers on how you handle those transactions?


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