UFC 212: Aldo vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread

[lemipawa]

I read the news as well about Anderson Silva announcing his self pull out from UFC 212. Anderson Silva may have carved a good history with UFC but his fight antics has turned off a lot his fans just like what happened on his fight with Chris Weidman. he mocked and played too much and got caught and now he wants respect. I know that's part of his fight plan but I find it disrespectful to the other fighter. 

[bbc.reporter]

@lemipawa. His fight antics are what make the fans watch his fights. Your opinion of him is very flat and very depthless and it is very unfair to criticize him from his fight versus Chris Weidman.

It is maybe because you really do not watch the UFC that much and have not seen the growth and the journey of Anderson and what he has brought to the sport.

[Mbokani]

I read the news as well about Anderson Silva announcing his self pull out from UFC 212.  

You have heard it wrong,Anderson Silva is not pulling out from UFC 212,he does not have an opponent to dance with and he is looking to fight in Brazil for a very long time and he wants to face Yoel Romero for an interim title and Romero is happy to go on with the fight against Anderson but UFC is not interested in putting the fight together and so is the reason he is frustrated.

[tokeweed]

I feel Anderson is being a drama queen this time.  I mean he's still a great fighter with a legacy behind him, but c'mon...  He himself should know that his stock has gone down and he can't pull the same PPV numbers he used to.  It's sad it came to this, really.

[btc_angela]

I feel Anderson is being a drama queen this time.  I mean he's still a great fighter with a legacy behind him, but c'mon...  He himself should know that his stock has gone down and he can't pull the same PPV numbers he used to.  It's sad it came to this, really.

So true. But that is the problem with some of the athletes in all of sports. It is like that they can't accept that they are no longer relevant in their sport. Like what Anderson is right now, he has lost the luster in his career after that unfaithful lost to Weidman. Anderson thinks he has still the command in his career but I doubt he will be. He should retire, he has already cemented his legacy.

[thejaytiesto]

I read the news as well about Anderson Silva announcing his self pull out from UFC 212. Anderson Silva may have carved a good history with UFC but his fight antics has turned off a lot his fans just like what happened on his fight with Chris Weidman. he mocked and played too much and got caught and now he wants respect. I know that's part of his fight plan but I find it disrespectful to the other fighter. 

Anderson Silva is still on time to retire and live a good life with still a legendary legacy. If he continues like this he is going to start damaging his legacy.

It's like Mirko Crocop, he should have retired years ago. He lost a lot of times in the UFC, even tho lately he won some good fights in Japan, but that's not UFC.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Mirko Crocop is a legend no doubt about that and when he came to the UFC he could not perform like he used to be in the past,his performance was on a slide when he signed for the UFC and he ended his career in Japan with a championship victory and he announced his retirement,good to see him get to retire on a winning note and that too a heavyweight title,it is time for Anderson Silva to step out of the UFC and have some fun fights and call it quits like Mirko did.

[bbc.reporter]

Maybe it was better if Anderson retired as the champion like what GSP did and then make a comeback fight for the money. I speculate the reason why Anderson is still fighting is more for the money now.

[tokeweed]

Hey guys.  Updated the OP with some of the info about the players.  May it help you choose your bets wisely.

Anyway, time moves very fast.  I didn't realize 212 is gonna be this weekend!  Yay!

Here are some videos to get you started.

UFC 212 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_wHmcwT_cY

UFC 212 Free Fight: Max Holloway vs Cub Swanson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1STr2RL2M

UFC 212 Free Fight: Aldo vs Mendes 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZZxzwHZ2Ek

UFC 212 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-F1oHWY7s

Do you guys think Holloway has a chance?

[thejaytiesto]

Mirko Crocop is a legend no doubt about that and when he came to the UFC he could not perform like he used to be in the past,his performance was on a slide when he signed for the UFC and he ended his career in Japan with a championship victory and he announced his retirement,good to see him get to retire on a winning note and that too a heavyweight title,it is time for Anderson Silva to step out of the UFC and have some fun fights and call it quits like Mirko did.

After the Rizen win in Japan by Mirko im sure he retired with a good sensation, he demonstrated he could still kick ass.

He should retire now, im sure he is a multi millionaire, all he needs to do now is open a couple gyms and enjoy the unlimited passive income.

Same goes for Silva, his days in the UFC as a world champion are over.

I have no idea about Aldo vs Holloway, that's one I can't predict.

Im saving some money for the Mayweather vs McGregor fight, that's going to be huge. I don't see how you cant lose if you bet for a Mayweather win. It worked 49 times.

[btc_angela]

Mirko Crocop is a legend no doubt about that and when he came to the UFC he could not perform like he used to be in the past,his performance was on a slide when he signed for the UFC and he ended his career in Japan with a championship victory and he announced his retirement,good to see him get to retire on a winning note and that too a heavyweight title,it is time for Anderson Silva to step out of the UFC and have some fun fights and call it quits like Mirko did.

After the Rizen win in Japan by Mirko im sure he retired with a good sensation, he demonstrated he could still kick ass.

He should retire now, im sure he is a multi millionaire, all he needs to do now is open a couple gyms and enjoy the unlimited passive income.

Same goes for Silva, his days in the UFC as a world champion are over.

I have no idea about Aldo vs Holloway, that's one I can't predict.

Im saving some money for the Mayweather vs McGregor fight, that's going to be huge. I don't see how you cant lose if you bet for a Mayweather win. It worked 49 times.

The hype when Mirko joined the UFC was so huge that time. But losses to many unknown fighters that time stop the hype train, too bad. As for Silva, nothing to proved anymore. He is already a legend and please don't fight and enjoy your life.

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Still having a hard time picking Aldo vs Holloway? You are not the one. I still don't know who to pick with.

[Hydrogen]

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather once, even if judges awarded Floyd the decision.

Even Floyd's father came out and said he thought Oscar De La Hoya won that fight.

I'm leaning towards Max Holloway defeating Jose Aldo. I think Jose Aldo could be a more skilled fighter than Max Holloway. I'm not sure Aldo has the cardio to last 5 rounds. His endurance hasn't looked good of late.

[Marma Kalari]

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather once, even if judges awarded Floyd the decision.
Even Floyd's father came out and said he thought Oscar De La Hoya won that fight.
I'm leaning towards Max Holloway defeating Jose Aldo. I think Jose Aldo could be a more skilled fighter than Max Holloway. I'm not sure Aldo has the cardio to last 5 rounds. His endurance hasn't looked good of late.

One thing for sure,it will be a good battle and i am favoring Jose Aldo to win the fight as he thinks that he has unfinished business with Conor McGregor which i think will not be fulfilled,his last fight against Frankie was impressive and if he could perform to that level i think he can win the fight,Max Holloway has improved a lot since his last defeat against Mcgregor and age is also in his side.Let the best man win.

[tokeweed]

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather once, even if judges awarded Floyd the decision.

Even Floyd's father came out and said he thought Oscar De La Hoya won that fight.

I'm leaning towards Max Holloway defeating Jose Aldo. I think Jose Aldo could be a more skilled fighter than Max Holloway. I'm not sure Aldo has the cardio to last 5 rounds. His endurance hasn't looked good of late.

I'm sticking with Aldo here.  The fight is in Rio, Brazil and that's a big psychological edge right there.  And at 1.86 at Nitrogen, that's fair value imo.  Not as high as I would like but still ok.

Plus it would be way better to see Aldo call out and come after McGregor after this.  Maybe Aldo could even go up to LW and try to get two belts in the process.  It sounds crazy but the UFC has been doing stuff differently since the WME-IMG acquisition.

[notserp]

my picks


Jose Aldo  even if like Max and hes from the same island
Vitor Belfort
Yancy Medeiros
Raphael Assuncao
Eric Spicely
Johnny Eduardo

[SaShiRaJaVu]

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone down and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

[thejaytiesto]

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone done and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

Mayweather is still on top shape, he is always training and keeps himself active. In his last fight he made Berto look like an Amateur, and McGregor is an actual boxing amateur, so he is going to make him look like a fool.

Of course, McGregor hits hard as hell, so if he connects one punch that could be it. This is why the fight is so exciting. But let's not forget, Mayweather has a strong chin and can take a punch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhnRO9NeXFI

In this second round Mosley rocked Mayweather, and he still managed to come back and make Mosley look like a tool by the end of the fight. It takes amazing determination to do that.

[Siren]

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone done and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

Lol. How did you know that Mayweather has lost his reflexes? But what I know is that he keeps himself in top shape all year round. He is still a step ahead of all his opponents. McGregor is not a pro boxing, have you seen a pro boxer hitting Mayweather straight in the face?.........? Last time I saw him being hit was with Mosley, he buckled a bit, but was able to recover and win.

[btc_angela]

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone done and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

I must agree that Mayweather is not getting any younger. And at 40 years and still top of his game is amazing. But as far as his reflexes is concern, I think it is still there because he is an extra ordinary athlete. He was able to maintain it for such a long time but doing a lot of work even when he is not fighting. So I disagree with you that his reflex may have been gone already. I also don't think that ring rust will also be another factor against him because just like I said, he keeps himself busy through out the year.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Mayweather is still on top shape, he is always training and keeps himself active. In his last fight he made Berto look like an Amateur, and McGregor is an actual boxing amateur, so he is going to make him look like a fool.

That is the only thing i like about Mayweather is that he wont drink nor use drugs and he always takes care of his body,McGregor is not even an amateur boxer as i am not sure he has entered a boxing ring in his life for a bout but he could hit hard and that is the exciting factor,no one cares if Mayweather schools him because that is what is supposed to happen a big pay day for both the fighters but what if he could knock him out and what different does an MMA fighter who is really unorthodox can do.

Lol. How did you know that Mayweather has lost his reflexes?

How do you know that he has not lost his reflexes.He has not taken much damages in the boxing ring but anything could happen,what if Mayweather takes Mcgregor lightly like the rest of the opponents he faced in MMA and gets knocked out.It is a possibility.