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March 18, 2017, 08:02:13 AM
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ada kabar kah tentang escrow nya?
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March 18, 2017, 12:10:59 PM
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ada kabar kah tentang escrow nya?

belum ada kabar escrom  , mudah-mudahn secepatnya di umumin
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March 19, 2017, 04:24:06 AM
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ada kabar kah tentang escrow nya?

belum ada kabar escrom  , mudah-mudahn secepatnya di umumin

Wah belum ada kejelasan soal ersrownya ya gan???
klo belum ada jangan invest dulu gan
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March 20, 2017, 12:22:55 AM
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ada kabar kah tentang escrow nya?

belum ada kabar escrom  , mudah-mudahn secepatnya di umumin

Wah belum ada kejelasan soal ersrownya ya gan???
klo belum ada jangan invest dulu gan

Kalau memang developer berencana pakai escrow, ditunggu aja nanti informasinya
Kalau tidak memakai ya resiko kalau mau invest gan dan kemungkinan perolehan investasinya juga kecil

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March 20, 2017, 12:41:58 AM
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Nunggu kejelasan mengenai escrow dulu baru gabung bountynya. Kalau tidak ada escrow dana terkumpul sedikit
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March 21, 2017, 07:21:14 AM
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Nunggu kejelasan mengenai escrow dulu baru gabung bountynya. Kalau tidak ada escrow dana terkumpul sedikit

Betul gan
Escrow sangatlah penting untuk sebuah pengumpulan dana investasi
Tanpa itu beresiko dibawa lari orang yang tidak bertanggung jawab
Semoga bisa segera tersedia wallet escrownya
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March 31, 2017, 02:13:38 PM
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d thread utama sepi bnget apa ico ini gak jadi launch ?
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April 01, 2017, 01:50:14 AM
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I was asked by ponch85, the issuer, to provide an Escrow address that is used to collect the funds for the ICO of CFT Coins.

The escrow address should not be used as a direct deposit address. Instead you will use the service provided by the issuer and he will provide you with a unique investment address. Those investment addresses will be held by Dabs and he will regularly, when a threshold is met, forward the coins to the escrow address. Please check that your funds find their way from your investment address to the escrow address directly.

I will escrow the ICO with a multisig address 2 of 3. The keys are held by Dabs, ponch85 and myself.

ONLY invest after reading my terms regarding how to invest, safety I can provide and refund terms.



Who am I?

I am SebastianJu an escrow on Bitcointalk since years. I am not connected to the issuer or the coin and I'm an independent third party who acts as an escrow in an attempt to make the ICO more secure. See my Servicethread for reviews: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.



Safety from Escrow

Once the service, the Wallet and the CFT Coins are released to the investors we will wait 7 days to see if problems arise with the wallet or Coin, then I will release the Bitcoins to the issuer. This way of handling things is useful, waiting times already stopped a number scammy ICO's from happening because there is time to show the validity of the ICO.

Devs will release a 30 days demo for all before and during the ico, so people will see what the application is able to do. The ico will run from april the 7th and the demo from april the 1st to april the 30th.
The complete finished software will be released immediately after the ico ends.

Minimum investment will be 100 Bitcoins. If ICO fails to reach that goal then a refund will be initiated.

Please note that the safety I can provide only reaches up to the point where I released the bitcoins to the issuer.



Escrow Address

This is only an observation address, please don't send to that address directly!

This is a 2 of 3 multisig address where the keys are held by Dabs, ponch85 and myself. This secures the ico funds even more because more people have to agree to send coins out of the escrow address.

The escrow address is:
Code:
34JhQgFd2S1U8YmRe8bPmE5zKdioeNHFec

Don't send to a quoted escrow address. ALWAYS only check out my post directly and send to that address! And please check regularly if the escrow link or address was changed in the first post of thread. Inform me fast by pm, post in the thread about it and give red trust if possible to warn others fast then. If you sent me a pm then I will know about it and can act by giving red trust to the issuer to prevent damage.

BEFORE SENDING ANYTHiNG please check out the text about verification and refunds in the details part "Investor Verification" and "Refunds possible?".


Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
170331 This is the escrow address for the ICO of CFT Coins and the escrow address is 34JhQgFd2S1U8YmRe8bPmE5zKdioeNHFec
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1K2UFGCKyNQNx4h2m5ZRCaw9BWHTBcCZAA
HH7oJ8dPmTnhrfUQk+vVxKAqcWdaUlQYk5wu0Qv8xiVrEanKvEHPchvrpymiUFeh3DAOzNIcbcipS4KZDgdY0MU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Message signed with an old address of mine, that I posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

You can check a signed message very easy. The fastest way is to visit http://wallet-2sx53n.sakurity.com/#verify or with https://tools.bitcoin.com/verify-message/.



Investor Verification

This is important in case of refunds have to happen and you want your investment back. Please note that refunds are bound to a fee because of the immense amount of work a refund means for an escrow.

There are two ways to verify your investment which is important when, for some reason, the investment has to be refunded back to investors.

First way (Does not work with exchanges. Can't be changed anymore when you sent your investment already.):

Try to not send from an exchange. Only send Bitcoins from an address you can sign a private message from or at least where you are able to get the private key for that address! This is important since in case of REFUND you can't proof that you sent bitcoins. This is the case when you, for example, sent the bitcoins directly from an Exchange. In that case it would be better to send the coins to your own wallet first and then from there to the escrow address. Your own wallet where you can sign messages with.

For information about what you need to sign a message you can check out this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345

Second way (Works with exchanges. Can't be changed anymore when you sent your investment already.):

Another alternative to proof your ownership of a payment would be to send me the last 4 numbers of your user id as satoshies in your transaction.

Move your mouse over my username, see my profile id is 18640. You can see yours when you are in your profile and hover the mouse over the links on the left menu. Something like u=18640 in the links show your User-ID. The last 4 digits are 8640 for my username. When you add the 4 last digits of your userid as satoshies to your payment then it is pretty sure it's your payment too.

For example you want to send 2 bitcoins and your profile id would be 18640 then you send 2.00008640 Bitcoin.



Refunds possible?

Refunds can only be done in case the issuer agrees or there are reasons to stop the ICO by the escrow, because there came up doubts that make the ICO too insecure to proceed.

As long as you did not verify your investment transaction in some way I will see your investment as unverified. Otherwise it could mean a random person could claim an investment as his investment and steal it from the real investor. You wouldn't want this to happen with your investment also.

Refunds can only be done instantly when you can proof ownership of the investment. Either by signing a message from the sending bitcoin address or by your investment amount matching your forum user id. See description about verification above.

If you can't proof the ownership of an investment and a refund needs to be done then you need to wait some weeks so that the risk of being scammed is lower for the (potential real) owner of that investment and for me. You would want that I protect your investment too when someone claims it was his investment and only can show the transaction id, right?



Refundfee

Since the huge amount of work coming from refunding many individual investors, having to have a conversation with each of them and so on, I had to establish a fee for refunding.

The fee structure is meant per investor, regardless of how many investments happened by that investor, and looks like this:

Minimum fee of 0.01 BTC or the fee structure, whatever is higher:

>=$500,001 = 0,5%
$500,000 - $50,001 = 1%
$50,000 - $10,001 = 2%
$10,000 - $1,001 = 3%
$1,000 - $101 => 5%
<=$100 => 10%

Good luck everyone with this ICO! Smiley

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Info to dev:

Please post in the op something like this. You might lower the size a bit but it must be near the escrow address or the link to the investment website:

Quote
The bitcoin escrow address is ***NOT FOR DIRECT INVESTING***:
Code:
34JhQgFd2S1U8YmRe8bPmE5zKdioeNHFec
Check if your investment is forwarded to the escrow address and alarm me when this did not happen!

ONLY invest after reading my terms regarding how to invest so that a refund can happen for you because you sent your investment provable. Check the safety I can provide, the refund terms and the refund fees, including the minimum refund fee: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18409823#msg18409823


Please check occassionally that the escrow address in OP is the same like it is in escrow post and inform me quickly and negrep the dev if it changed.

**************
The investment is going through a website held by you, the dev. So dev please post this above the investment address the investor can see on your website.

ONLY invest after reading my terms regarding how to invest so that a refund can happen for you because you sent your investment provable. Check the safety I can provide, the refund terms and the refund fees, including the minimum refund fee: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18409823#msg18409823




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April 01, 2017, 05:01:12 AM
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d thread utama sepi bnget apa ico ini gak jadi launch ?

rada ragu jg ma ni ICO
promotenya kurang greget

 
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April 01, 2017, 07:11:34 AM
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d thread utama sepi bnget apa ico ini gak jadi launch ?

rada ragu jg ma ni ICO
promotenya kurang greget

Ya wis mas yulionooo kalau sampeyan ragu ragu jangan ikutan...wkwkwk ... yang jelas ini alat penting buat trader ....kalau merasa trader pasti mau invest ke sini.... inget jangan pake uang dapur tohh.... nanti ga ngebul tuh dapur....
ane juga lagi nunggu kapan dimulainya nih ICO .... escrownya udah ada sebastian ju
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April 01, 2017, 10:59:20 AM
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jika target di tidak tercapai yaitu kurang dari 100 btc maka ico gagal dan dana di kembalikan kepada investor, lalu bagaimana dengan bitcoin hunter yang telah berpartisipasi ?


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April 01, 2017, 11:47:12 AM
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jika target di tidak tercapai yaitu kurang dari 100 btc maka ico gagal dan dana di kembalikan kepada investor, lalu bagaimana dengan bitcoin hunter yang telah berpartisipasi ?
gak dibayar,ahaha
ane pernah ngalami kek gitu gan,ikutan signature terus ico nya gagal,gatot deh,wkwkwk



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April 01, 2017, 12:04:06 PM
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d thread utama sepi bnget apa ico ini gak jadi launch ?

rada ragu jg ma ni ICO
promotenya kurang greget

Ya wis mas yulionooo kalau sampeyan ragu ragu jangan ikutan...wkwkwk ... yang jelas ini alat penting buat trader ....kalau merasa trader pasti mau invest ke sini.... inget jangan pake uang dapur tohh.... nanti ga ngebul tuh dapur....
ane juga lagi nunggu kapan dimulainya nih ICO .... escrownya udah ada sebastian ju

siap gan, wkwkw
takut jg dimarai bini kalo uang dapur sampe kepake  Grin

 
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April 01, 2017, 12:13:47 PM
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April 01, 2017, 12:21:24 PM
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jika target di tidak tercapai yaitu kurang dari 100 btc maka ico gagal dan dana di kembalikan kepada investor, lalu bagaimana dengan bitcoin hunter yang telah berpartisipasi ?
gak dibayar,ahaha
ane pernah ngalami kek gitu gan,ikutan signature terus ico nya gagal,gatot deh,wkwkwk
Hahaha..saya juga pernah gan ikut ico yang gagal/macet di tengah jalan dan rasanya gimana gitu  Grin tapi nggak ada salahnya juga di coba selama masih gratis,,di bayar atau nggak nanti belakangan gan
Semoga sukses ICO CFT nya,,biar bisa nambah2 celengan Smiley

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April 01, 2017, 01:00:08 PM
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jika target di tidak tercapai yaitu kurang dari 100 btc maka ico gagal dan dana di kembalikan kepada investor, lalu bagaimana dengan bitcoin hunter yang telah berpartisipasi ?
gak dibayar,ahaha
ane pernah ngalami kek gitu gan,ikutan signature terus ico nya gagal,gatot deh,wkwkwk
Hahaha..saya juga pernah gan ikut ico yang gagal/macet di tengah jalan dan rasanya gimana gitu  Grin tapi nggak ada salahnya juga di coba selama masih gratis,,di bayar atau nggak nanti belakangan gan
Semoga sukses ICO CFT nya,,biar bisa nambah2 celengan Smiley
yoi gan,bounty ini kalau gagal ya udah.
kecuali kalo kita ikutan invest,ico gagal kita minta refund kena fee lagi  Cheesy



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April 01, 2017, 01:04:34 PM
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jika target di tidak tercapai yaitu kurang dari 100 btc maka ico gagal dan dana di kembalikan kepada investor, lalu bagaimana dengan bitcoin hunter yang telah berpartisipasi ?
gak dibayar,ahaha
ane pernah ngalami kek gitu gan,ikutan signature terus ico nya gagal,gatot deh,wkwkwk
Hahaha..saya juga pernah gan ikut ico yang gagal/macet di tengah jalan dan rasanya gimana gitu  Grin tapi nggak ada salahnya juga di coba selama masih gratis,,di bayar atau nggak nanti belakangan gan
Semoga sukses ICO CFT nya,,biar bisa nambah2 celengan Smiley
yoi gan,bounty ini kalau gagal ya udah.
kecuali kalo kita ikutan invest,ico gagal kita minta refund kena fee lagi  Cheesy


yah gitu dah ....kalau gagal ya ambles .... wes ewes bablas anginnya .........tapi kalau mbah paijo kan orang bejo ,,, selalu berinovasi.... ga nyangka agan pake signature koin ini ya.... mungkin agan seorang trader sejati kali ya ....mantap.... semoga aja ico ini sukses lah
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April 01, 2017, 01:21:57 PM
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jika target di tidak tercapai yaitu kurang dari 100 btc maka ico gagal dan dana di kembalikan kepada investor, lalu bagaimana dengan bitcoin hunter yang telah berpartisipasi ?
gak dibayar,ahaha
ane pernah ngalami kek gitu gan,ikutan signature terus ico nya gagal,gatot deh,wkwkwk
Hahaha..saya juga pernah gan ikut ico yang gagal/macet di tengah jalan dan rasanya gimana gitu  Grin tapi nggak ada salahnya juga di coba selama masih gratis,,di bayar atau nggak nanti belakangan gan
Semoga sukses ICO CFT nya,,biar bisa nambah2 celengan Smiley
yoi gan,bounty ini kalau gagal ya udah.
kecuali kalo kita ikutan invest,ico gagal kita minta refund kena fee lagi  Cheesy


yah gitu dah ....kalau gagal ya ambles .... wes ewes bablas anginnya .........tapi kalau mbah paijo kan orang bejo ,,, selalu berinovasi.... ga nyangka agan pake signature koin ini ya.... mungkin agan seorang trader sejati kali ya ....mantap.... semoga aja ico ini sukses lah
saya mah antimainstream  Cool
100BTC langsung tak investasikan ke CryptoForecast  Cool wkwkwkwk



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April 02, 2017, 02:56:30 AM
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Gan ane mau gabung di bounty sosmed/fb udah ini itu tapi kok nama saya nggak tercantum di spreadsheets nya,itu kenapa ya gan?

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