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February 22, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
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Just don't go to the websites that have the content you don't like. It is very simple.
The Ministry of the Armed forces, announced the establishment of the troops information operations. This is today in the state Duma of the Russian Federation Minister of defense Sergei Shoigu, the Russian news Agency "Interfax". They are everywhere so it is not possible to go to sites where they are not.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I haven't heard of that. It is possible.
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February 22, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
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Do whatever you like. When you are online, they got you. You express your opinions in a forum, they already keep a record of you. You can't actually delete anything from internet. When it is online, it is over.

You may use TOR, or VPN to hide yourself from NSA but then TOR/VPN owners got your information. You can't stay completely anonymous... If they want to find you, they will.

I closed my facebook account several times in the past. I haven't uploaded a photo for years. (or shared anything) But still i use its messaging service, and if they take a look at my private messages between friends, they will have every information about me.

If i haven't used facebook, i would have used whatsapp or some other... What's the difference, they already own every mainstream messaging app out there. If not, they own the phone companies, simcard operators, they own your ass!

You can't hide bro. Accept it, and don't share your freaky thoughts with anyone online. Never.

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February 22, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
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Do whatever you like. When you are online, they got you. You express your opinions in a forum, they already keep a record of you. You can't actually delete anything from internet. When it is online, it is over.

You may use TOR, or VPN to hide yourself from NSA but then TOR/VPN owners got your information. You can't stay completely anonymous... If they want to find you, they will.

I closed my facebook account several times in the past. I haven't uploaded a photo for years. (or shared anything) But still i use its messaging service, and if they take a look at my private messages between friends, they will have every information about me.

If i haven't used facebook, i would have used whatsapp or some other... What's the difference, they already own every mainstream messaging app out there. If not, they own the phone companies, simcard operators, they own your ass!

You can't hide bro. Accept it, and don't share your freaky thoughts with anyone online. Never.
Maybe they do and achieve? Why help the enemy? I'm not afraid of them. Let them know about it. If I commit a crime then of course I will never use a smartphone and a tablet. As far as communication on the forums then I'm the opposite of ready to refute all of them fakes.
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February 25, 2017, 03:35:59 PM
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My tip for you.

Make three weeks of holidays with cycling, hiking, running but without a phone, tablet, notebooek, internet, tv ...

You'll see, it will work. And after that you have a different behavior

That is such a great idea and I've contemplated doing weekend or week away in the wilderness - 3 weeks is really quite a long time, maybe that's what's required for a 'reset'?.

Have you done this?
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February 25, 2017, 03:40:53 PM
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My tip for you.

Make three weeks of holidays with cycling, hiking, running but without a phone, tablet, notebooek, internet, tv ...

You'll see, it will work. And after that you have a different behavior
Unfortunately, modern people are already so used to modern technology that I very much doubt that they will survive long without them. Last time I forgot my cell phone at home, I passed only 3 hours then I had to go back and get him on the other side of town.

But it works. At least for me...  Cool
And I'm very modern I think.
I have to do this twice a year, in summer and in the winter.

Do you get a 'reset feeling' after doing that?    I'd be interested to hear your experience.


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March 01, 2017, 08:36:25 PM
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I can attest (though not for so long a time as that) this does work. Technology use nowadays (which is mostly entertainment or convenience) is mostly habitual. Unconditioning those habits, or replacing them, is healthy. And a note on privacy from state actors. Even if you could hear all the voices in the room, it would be hard to separate a single voice and hear it clearly through the cacophony. That's the current state of affairs with government surveillance. You are psuedo anon, like bitcoin, because it's hard to single out one person with all the noise. When you listen to all the Facebook posts, from the LOL cats to the fight clips, eventually, you tune out everything that isn't "I am a crazy head and intend to do harm to myself, or others".

So, just be aware you are always on record, if you use an electronic medium of communication. It doesn't diminish you, which is the most important thing. But it does give you some considerations.

But when they tune in, you are quite fucked.
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March 04, 2017, 09:03:47 PM
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I can attest (though not for so long a time as that) this does work. Technology use nowadays (which is mostly entertainment or convenience) is mostly habitual. Unconditioning those habits, or replacing them, is healthy. And a note on privacy from state actors. Even if you could hear all the voices in the room, it would be hard to separate a single voice and hear it clearly through the cacophony. That's the current state of affairs with government surveillance. You are psuedo anon, like bitcoin, because it's hard to single out one person with all the noise. When you listen to all the Facebook posts, from the LOL cats to the fight clips, eventually, you tune out everything that isn't "I am a crazy head and intend to do harm to myself, or others".

So, just be aware you are always on record, if you use an electronic medium of communication. It doesn't diminish you, which is the most important thing. But it does give you some considerations.

But when they tune in, you are quite fucked.

Quite separate from PRIVACY (which is another important issue). The concern is if the over-stimulation of a certain type of message is effecting me without my knowing (a bit like subliminal messaging etc.)
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March 04, 2017, 09:36:17 PM
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I can attest (though not for so long a time as that) this does work. Technology use nowadays (which is mostly entertainment or convenience) is mostly habitual. Unconditioning those habits, or replacing them, is healthy. And a note on privacy from state actors. Even if you could hear all the voices in the room, it would be hard to separate a single voice and hear it clearly through the cacophony. That's the current state of affairs with government surveillance. You are psuedo anon, like bitcoin, because it's hard to single out one person with all the noise. When you listen to all the Facebook posts, from the LOL cats to the fight clips, eventually, you tune out everything that isn't "I am a crazy head and intend to do harm to myself, or others".

So, just be aware you are always on record, if you use an electronic medium of communication. It doesn't diminish you, which is the most important thing. But it does give you some considerations.

But when they tune in, you are quite fucked.

Quite separate from PRIVACY (which is another important issue). The concern is if the over-stimulation of a certain type of message is effecting me without my knowing (a bit like subliminal messaging etc.)
It seems to me that it is not possible. It has long been known that 25 fps is a fiction. Same thing with other technologies of this kind. I think everything is much easier. People inspire thoughts through the fake news.
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March 05, 2017, 06:48:28 PM
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I can attest (though not for so long a time as that) this does work. Technology use nowadays (which is mostly entertainment or convenience) is mostly habitual. Unconditioning those habits, or replacing them, is healthy. And a note on privacy from state actors. Even if you could hear all the voices in the room, it would be hard to separate a single voice and hear it clearly through the cacophony. That's the current state of affairs with government surveillance. You are psuedo anon, like bitcoin, because it's hard to single out one person with all the noise. When you listen to all the Facebook posts, from the LOL cats to the fight clips, eventually, you tune out everything that isn't "I am a crazy head and intend to do harm to myself, or others".

So, just be aware you are always on record, if you use an electronic medium of communication. It doesn't diminish you, which is the most important thing. But it does give you some considerations.

But when they tune in, you are quite fucked.

Quite separate from PRIVACY (which is another important issue). The concern is if the over-stimulation of a certain type of message is effecting me without my knowing (a bit like subliminal messaging etc.)
It seems to me that it is not possible. It has long been known that 25 fps is a fiction. Same thing with other technologies of this kind. I think everything is much easier. People inspire thoughts through the fake news.

25fps?
Either I missed something, you are in the wrong thread, or you are smoking the best of the drugs.

And to OP, tune out completely then. We weren't designed for this level of stimulation, electronics resemble drugs in the way they engage our pleasure centers. Also, with communications technology at its current state, you are always being advertised at, and those ads are designed to subvert your will. Don't expose yourself to this needlessly.

We lived for centuries without TVs. Cellphones and PCs (and most other consumer electronics), while useful, are only tools if used as such. Otherwise, they are entertainment. And too much entertainment without work will make you soft.
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March 05, 2017, 07:48:49 PM
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https://www.opendns.com/

will let you set up some filters.

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March 05, 2017, 08:18:04 PM
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We are bombarded and over-exposed to certain sensationalist themes and media narratives.

It's almost impossible for anyone to come up with their own ideas/views/opinions with the kind of narrative feeding we get on a daily basis. I know 'giving up the internet' and/or not visiting certain websites could alleviate this issue some what but it led me to thinking.....

  Is there a way to self-censor the data you receive?

eg. If someone finds it counter-productive/unhelpful to hear about 'terrorism' on a daily basis, is it possible to block anything associated with this from your internet viewing without having to restrict the websites you visit?

A lot of people are becoming aware of their over-exposure to other's sensationalist ideas and may be looking for a solution/more control of their data absorption habits....


Does anyone else want a filter/ more control over your internet viewing?

Any ideas on how this can be done?
Unfortunately the answer is no, so you will need to do the filtering yourself, what you consider to be useless propaganda and what you consider to be useful information.
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March 06, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
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I use adblock which serves me very well against unwanted commercials which to me is the biggest irritant on the internet. For the rest, I choose what read or watch, sometimes you waste a coupler minutes of your life but even then I'll retain some infromation.
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March 06, 2017, 10:55:24 AM
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It depends if you want to avoid the mainstream media just get your sources on the USA from other countries where objective reporting still exists.

Nhk Newsline from Japan, the BBC at times in the UK they are far more bias to Brexit , CTV or CBC from Canada, RT is pretty honest despite all the US fear mongering about it being the Kremlins shouting point from Russia, Al Jazeera from the Qatar,Dubai or CCTV from China to name a few.

The point is as long as it's not from the USA it probably is ok to watch news related to that country through it and not feel like being hit by endless propaganda waves.
Just be careful not to do the safe-space logic where everyone lives in filter bubbles that is a scarier thought than 1984 and the thought police, it would be the self-created thought police.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

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March 06, 2017, 12:07:04 PM
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I use adblock which serves me very well against unwanted commercials which to me is the biggest irritant on the internet. For the rest, I choose what read or watch, sometimes you waste a coupler minutes of your life but even then I'll retain some infromation.
I had also had a negative attitude towards advertising, but now I can concentrate on the essential and is not distracting me. Besides, sometimes advertising is what I need. Through advertising many things we have for free. Accept or pay.
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March 06, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
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We are bombarded and over-exposed to certain sensationalist themes and media narratives.

It's almost impossible for anyone to come up with their own ideas/views/opinions with the kind of narrative feeding we get on a daily basis. I know 'giving up the internet' and/or not visiting certain websites could alleviate this issue some what but it led me to thinking.....

  Is there a way to self-censor the data you receive?

eg. If someone finds it counter-productive/unhelpful to hear about 'terrorism' on a daily basis, is it possible to block anything associated with this from your internet viewing without having to restrict the websites you visit?

A lot of people are becoming aware of their over-exposure to other's sensationalist ideas and may be looking for a solution/more control of their data absorption habits....


Does anyone else want a filter/ more control over your internet viewing?

Any ideas on how this can be done?

There are website and content blockers that may be useful to you. Those blockers are made especially for children so they cannot watch pornographic and violent filled and graphic sites. This kind of software may be helpful to you but as you are an adult you just need to disallow and block manually the sites that you hate and turn-off pop ups that automatically opens links that you dont want to open.
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March 06, 2017, 12:55:18 PM
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I would like to censor the world around me. Bad things keep happening and I don't want to see or experience them anymore. I want to be only surrounded by nice things which make me feel nice.

I would say to the OP that we both stand a roughly equal chance of getting what we want.

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March 06, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
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I use adblock which serves me very well against unwanted commercials which to me is the biggest irritant on the internet. For the rest, I choose what read or watch, sometimes you waste a coupler minutes of your life but even then I'll retain some infromation.
I had also had a negative attitude towards advertising, but now I can concentrate on the essential and is not distracting me. Besides, sometimes advertising is what I need. Through advertising many things we have for free. Accept or pay.

I guess you're right. There are certain sites I unblock because they hold the content im interested in. I'm not like you apparently because I think advertising without control through adblock is too distracting for me.
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March 06, 2017, 01:22:20 PM
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I use adblock which serves me very well against unwanted commercials which to me is the biggest irritant on the internet. For the rest, I choose what read or watch, sometimes you waste a coupler minutes of your life but even then I'll retain some infromation.
I had also had a negative attitude towards advertising, but now I can concentrate on the essential and is not distracting me. Besides, sometimes advertising is what I need. Through advertising many things we have for free. Accept or pay.

I guess you're right. There are certain sites I unblock because they hold the content im interested in. I'm not like you apparently because I think advertising without control through adblock is too distracting for me.
I was not distracting ads on websites. Distracting advertising on YouTube, but it cannot be turned off. More distracting ads on TV, but it also cannot be turned off. Nowadays advertising is everywhere and from it to hide will not work. Easier to learn not to react to it.
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March 06, 2017, 05:52:05 PM
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It depends if you want to avoid the mainstream media just get your sources on the USA from other countries where objective reporting still exists.

Nhk Newsline from Japan, the BBC at times in the UK they are far more bias to Brexit , CTV or CBC from Canada, RT is pretty honest despite all the US fear mongering about it being the Kremlins shouting point from Russia, Al Jazeera from the Qatar,Dubai or CCTV from China to name a few.

The point is as long as it's not from the USA it probably is ok to watch news related to that country through it and not feel like being hit by endless propaganda waves.
Just be careful not to do the safe-space logic where everyone lives in filter bubbles that is a scarier thought than 1984 and the thought police, it would be the self-created thought police.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

Thanks for the link to that Wiki page - it gives me a name for what I am trying to describe, my 'filter bubble'. I'd like more control over my own filter bubble.
I'm cool with being in an isolated culture if the alternative is being overloaded with junk.

I'm in the UK, I do pick through a few of the news sources you mention but I can tell you that the BBC are always pushing their narrative.
My favourite news source is probably the Financial Times, because they attach less emotion and/or fear mongering to the stories.

Don't have much experience with US news outlets....
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March 06, 2017, 07:58:05 PM
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It depends if you want to avoid the mainstream media just get your sources on the USA from other countries where objective reporting still exists.

Nhk Newsline from Japan, the BBC at times in the UK they are far more bias to Brexit , CTV or CBC from Canada, RT is pretty honest despite all the US fear mongering about it being the Kremlins shouting point from Russia, Al Jazeera from the Qatar,Dubai or CCTV from China to name a few.

The point is as long as it's not from the USA it probably is ok to watch news related to that country through it and not feel like being hit by endless propaganda waves.
Just be careful not to do the safe-space logic where everyone lives in filter bubbles that is a scarier thought than 1984 and the thought police, it would be the self-created thought police.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

Thanks for the link to that Wiki page - it gives me a name for what I am trying to describe, my 'filter bubble'. I'd like more control over my own filter bubble.
I'm cool with being in an isolated culture if the alternative is being overloaded with junk.

I'm in the UK, I do pick through a few of the news sources you mention but I can tell you that the BBC are always pushing their narrative.
My favourite news source is probably the Financial Times, because they attach less emotion and/or fear mongering to the stories.

Don't have much experience with US news outlets....
It is necessary to make a selection of the sources of information that you can trust, and this issue needs to be very good and adequate analysis. And the main merit of good agencies that is their objective.
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