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February 18, 2017, 11:20:23 PM
Last edit: February 19, 2017, 01:33:56 AM by Baryom
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Hello guys,

We had an issue with one guy "alibavar". He had the same seed as before the maintenance and was able to know his future rolls/ to win 100% of the time. (basically, the seeds are unique but we had a bug)
Unfortunately for us, he was able to withdraw 55 btc (our hot wallet) because we have an instant withdrawal without any verifications until it is bigger than our hot wallet balance.
I tried to talk with him in order to get back a half of the amount stolen, so that he could keep the rest as a bounty bug. He just told me to go fuck myself.

I am not really angry, but now I have a moral issue. I have all his personal data (name, city, birth date, emails, pictures of him etc.) but I will give him few days to think.

Thoughts?




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February 19, 2017, 05:11:13 AM
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Bary, this just goes to prove that lots of low life people frequent dice sites. I am totally disappointed with his attitude as it casts a bad image on honest players who gamble for fun.
I guess the only consoling thought would be that "Ill gotten gains don't last long".

Anyway, Good Luck on recovering at least some portion of it, if possible.
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February 19, 2017, 09:30:03 AM
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Well, it does seem like fraud for him to exploit this bug and withdraw 55 bitcoin. If you believe the information you have on them is correct, you should file a report with the police who live closest to them. On the other hand, these games exist with a permanent house edge against the player which seems a bit unfair too. Did he take all the money very quickly in one go or was it spread out over a long time?

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February 19, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
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I have initially warned about a kind of bug in old posts when another user encourages to use the bug as advantage. I don't remember the kind of bug and site. I forgot about it.

He will lose all his ill earnings soon.

However,

Certain countries don't permit gambling. If his city comes in that jurisdiction, he can be jailed while also recovering the funds if he didn't spend it.

Anyhow, refresh yourself. This is part of the day.
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February 19, 2017, 12:50:54 PM
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You should have learned the lesson from the Bitfinex hack.  Cool


On the other hand, these games exist with a permanent house edge against the player which seems a bit unfair too.

It is hardly unfair. The player chooses to.
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February 19, 2017, 03:52:37 PM
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Well, it does seem like fraud for him to exploit this bug and withdraw 55 bitcoin. If you believe the information you have on them is correct, you should file a report with the police who live closest to them. On the other hand, these games exist with a permanent house edge against the player which seems a bit unfair too. Did he take all the money very quickly in one go or was it spread out over a long time?

Was it this bug this user has been selling for a while now?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1792518.0

What do you think?
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February 19, 2017, 03:57:37 PM
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Was it this bug this user has been selling for a while now?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1792518.0

What do you think?

No, that thread is evidently a scam. If it were truly an exploit, there would not be an attempt to sell it because the user would be able to earn more from exploiting it himself.  In the event that he does want to (for some odd reason) sell some technique of being able to exploit the website, the price would not be a measly 0.03 BTC.

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February 19, 2017, 03:59:39 PM
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Hello guys,

We had an issue with one guy "alibavar". He had the same seed as before the maintenance and was able to know his future rolls/ to win 100% of the time. (basically, the seeds are unique but we had a bug)
Unfortunately for us, he was able to withdraw 55 btc (our hot wallet) because we have an instant withdrawal without any verifications until it is bigger than our hot wallet balance.
I tried to talk with him in order to get back a half of the amount stolen, so that he could keep the rest as a bounty bug. He just told me to go fuck myself.

I am not really angry, but now I have a moral issue. I have all his personal data (name, city, birth date, emails, pictures of him etc.) but I will give him few days to think.

Thoughts?

But is it the players fault?
Your casino is responsible for it's own security isn't it?
Did you not spend the time and effort to ensure this wouldn't happen?
What do think the big top bitcoin casinos that have been around longer then yours has would of done?
They can not make a player "pay back" anything once released from the casinos wallet.

If you believe you do have that right, then why not just bring it to court if he drained your whole house bank roll and you need to shut the whole site down because of it not being able to operate any further without available funds to do winner's payouts.
You have all his personal information as it is, so what is stopping you from doing just that and not just settling for half of the amount and requesting the full amount in court? That is over a $25,000 loss if he does agree to "paying your site back" you are talking about. That should hold up in a U.S civil claims court being over an amount of $10,000 or more.
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February 19, 2017, 06:44:43 PM
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If that's the case,you can take legal actions right ? From the name I can make out he'd be a third world country scum where cyber laws are as good as their economy.
What I suggest : Check if his coins are moving,once it falls in one of the known exchange wallets.Contact them,they will freeze the account if it all works out.

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February 19, 2017, 06:57:55 PM
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Well, it does seem like fraud for him to exploit this bug and withdraw 55 bitcoin. If you believe the information you have on them is correct, you should file a report with the police who live closest to them. On the other hand, these games exist with a permanent house edge against the player which seems a bit unfair too. Did he take all the money very quickly in one go or was it spread out over a long time?

Was it this bug this user has been selling for a while now?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1792518.0

What do you think?

Not him, the bug is fixed.

Hello guys,

We had an issue with one guy "alibavar". He had the same seed as before the maintenance and was able to know his future rolls/ to win 100% of the time. (basically, the seeds are unique but we had a bug)
Unfortunately for us, he was able to withdraw 55 btc (our hot wallet) because we have an instant withdrawal without any verifications until it is bigger than our hot wallet balance.
I tried to talk with him in order to get back a half of the amount stolen, so that he could keep the rest as a bounty bug. He just told me to go fuck myself.

I am not really angry, but now I have a moral issue. I have all his personal data (name, city, birth date, emails, pictures of him etc.) but I will give him few days to think.

Thoughts?

But is it the players fault?
Your casino is responsible for it's own security isn't it?
Did you not spend the time and effort to ensure this wouldn't happen?
What do think the big top bitcoin casinos that have been around longer then yours has would of done?
They can not make a player "pay back" anything once released from the casinos wallet.

If you believe you do have that right, then why not just bring it to court if he drained your whole house bank roll and you need to shut the whole site down because of it not being able to operate any further without available funds to do winner's payouts.
You have all his personal information as it is, so what is stopping you from doing just that and not just settling for half of the amount and requesting the full amount in court? That is over a $25,000 loss if he does agree to "paying your site back" you are talking about. That should hold up in a U.S civil claims court being over an amount of $10,000 or more.

Yes, it is his fault. Because he didn't report it. He had the same server seed as before. So, he had the server seed revealed. We give big bounty bug to people who report the bug.
 i.e NLNico 33: -0 / +4   2016-11-21   100.00000000      Great guy ! I asked him to make a security check for www.bitsler.com. He has found very critical issues and reported to us immediately. He deserved his 40 BTC bounty. Thanks again, I give it my highest recommendation !

55BTC  was our hot wallet, nothing else. 

Is it forbidden to ask the bitcointalk community advices? I had good advices in private messages, I will follow them.

Thank you,

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