[SCAM] [Unresolved] Skrill Reported to Europol and IMF - time to face charges

[krack-r]

Issue is that one of their Sr. Fraud Analysts knows me and has a grudge over me. And he's placed me in a weird list where all my trasactions are monitored.
Users DianeT510, meinfreil and Zenyatta19 have sent payments to me, I released the bitcoins immediately and they went to complain to Skrill to reverse the Payments. DianeT510 even replied to me that she didn't request a refund. Sent me screenshots of her Skrill, but still those bastards reversed my payments.

I am filed a lawsuit against Skrill today. They disabled my account, they lied on record that I would be able to withdraw my money, then they reversed all. And charged me 45EUR fee for it... I have nothing left now.
I am also filing criminal charges tomorrow, because what they did is fraud.

I will keep you updated. I will make a big noise about this.

I lost more than 500EUR - and I have receipts from a BITCOIN ATM and all - showing recipient address on Paxful.
I also shown them the transaction chat logs. And people confirming they didn't want a refund.

The arrogance of their personnel is going to cost them JAIL TIME as well as brutal fines.
All the big dogs have been alerted. I expect action within a few weeks.

EDIT: FYI - today 3 people from AW-Tronics were arrested because they lied to the DoJ in their documents for selling parts in Syria. 1 of them from Bulgaria (where Skrill's Security Team is located).
Don't forget that Trump is stumping hard on the Arabs and Money Laundering from their countries. This is going to be heavy hit on S(hit)krill

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[suchmoon]

I am filing a lawsuit against Skrill tomorrow. They just disabled my account, they lied on record that I would be able to withdraw my money, then they reversed all. And charged me 45EUR fee for it... I have nothing left now.

I will keep you updated. I will make a big noise about this.

Use the scam report format: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

Be specific as to which Skrill/Paxful user(s) scammed you.

[game-protect]

You can send a complaint to Skrill's regulator FCA https://www.fca.org.uk/contact and you can give your case also to http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/ , it is cost free.

Please ask them based on which paragraph in the ToS they reversed the transaction?

According to Skrill's ToS, transactions are irreversible:

9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address, unless you use the Skrill Escrow Service as described in section 13. Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

Here is another guy: [UNIQUARK][570 eur skrill chargeback]

[krack-r]

You can send a complaint to Skrill's regulator FCA https://www.fca.org.uk/contact and you can give your case also to http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/ , it is cost free.

Please ask them based on which paragraph in the ToS they reversed the transaction?

According to Skrill's ToS, transactions are irreversible:

9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address, unless you use the Skrill Escrow Service as described in section 13. Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

Here is another guy: [UNIQUARK][570 eur skrill chargeback]

I sent an email to the financial-ombudsman and a regular mail to the FCA as well as the District Court - i filed an official complaint and Im awaiting trial now.
I will also go to the cops with those bastards.

They sent me an email that was really vague and full of non sense. BTW: They accept BTC deposits, which is in actuality money laundering, so Im wondering If I should also alert the IMF. On the other hand - why wouldn't I?

[Fortify]

Issue is that one of their Sr. Fraud Analysts knows me and has a grudge over me. And he's placed me in a weird list where all my trasactions are monitored.

I am curious, firstly, how would you even know that a Senior Fraud Analyst has a grudge against you? Do you know them personally or only in a business sense? It's even stranger that you're on some kind of fraud list, why would you end up on it? It seems like you're selectively excluding some information

[krack-r]

Issue is that one of their Sr. Fraud Analysts knows me and has a grudge over me. And he's placed me in a weird list where all my trasactions are monitored.

I am curious, firstly, how would you even know that a Senior Fraud Analyst has a grudge against you? Do you know them personally or only in a business sense? It's even stranger that you're on some kind of fraud list, why would you end up on it? It seems like you're selectively excluding some information

Dude, think about it. This payment processor conducts millions of transactions daily. Many people transact on localbitoins and paxful and have thousands of transactions through skrill, and their accounts are never blocked.
It is simply impossible to check every transaction by hand.

My customers never place any memos including bitcoin when they send payments. And yet my account was blocked 3 times for the last 2 months, 2 of which on the last 12 days. And those are limited transactions - in the amounts of 50 - 250$. Im not talking abount 5 grand at once or 10 grand at once, which would be suspicious indeed.
And since I've worked in similar companies, I know that they have monitoring lists of "suspicious" accounts.

Paysafe's Sr. Fraud Manager for Digital Wallets lived in the same building with me, and he knows me personally for 20 years.
Also - an interesting update. DianeT510 sent me an email today, with screenshots from her account, from which is visible that she did not receive any payment back. The payment is marked as processed. Not cancelled. Not reversed. So Skrill are basically stealing money from their customers, claiming that payments were reversed.
They've also denied any details about which transaction, for what amount was reversed and to whom. This is in a recorded phone conversation. They just said that recent transactions were reversed, and they charged me 44.30EUR administrative fee. And coincidentally this was the only amount left after the "reversals", so my current balance is exactly 0.
They've also lied to me twice over the phone and on email that I will be able to withdraw my money to a bank account. After which without any notification, they just disabled the account.
I am definitely going to the cops and Im sending letters to the IMF and the ESFS. I already submitted a tip to Europol.

I will update you on the progress, but I am sure those bastards will lose their license to operate as a payment processor soon.
In PayPal even if the account is disabled they provide detailed information of which transaction and the reason for reversal.
And in most cases you get the money back within 6 months to a bank account.

EDIT: FBI tipped as well. I am going to end their money laundering operation. Fuckn scammers.

[game-protect]

Can you please post Skrill's explanation based on what they reversed the transactions? Thank you!

[krack-r]

It says something like:

"Dear XXXX,
Following up onto your case, please note that following a recent audit of your Skrill account, we found reasonable grounds to discontinue our business relationship. Therefore your account has been closed. Please note that this decision is final.

Be advised that we have reversed some of your receive money transactions and the funds have been returned back to the senders of the payments. Further to our Terms and Conditions, we have also charged you an administrative fee of 44.40 EUR.
 
More information on the issue is available in the Terms and Conditions you accepted when you registered. The following articles apply:
 
4. Opening Your Skrill Account
[ ... ]
4.5. All information you provide during the signup process or any time thereafter must be accurate and truthful.
[ ... ]
 
11. Prohibited Transactions
[ ... ]
11.4. It is strictly forbidden to use your Skrill Account for any illegal purposes including but not limited to fraud and money laundering. We will report any suspicious activity to the relevant law enforcement agency. You are prohibited from using your Skrill Account in an attempt to abuse, exploit or circumvent the usage restrictions imposed by a merchant on the services it provides.
[ ... ]
11.6. If you conduct or attempt to conduct any transaction in violation of the prohibitions contained in this section 11 or without the necessary approval under section 11.5, we reserve the right to:

• reverse the transaction; and/or
• close or suspend your Skrill Account; and/or
• report the transaction to the relevant law enforcement agency; and/or
• claim damages from you; and
• charge you an administration fee of up to 150 EUR in case we apply any of the above.

[ ... ]

17. Termination and suspension
[ ... ]
17.4. We may at any time suspend or terminate your Skrill Account without notice in case:
17.4.1. you breach any condition of these Terms of Use or any other condition applicable to specific services covered by separate terms and conditions;
17.4.2. you violate or we have reason to believe that you are in violation of any law or regulation that is applicable to your use of our services; or
17.4.3. we have reason to believe that you are in any way involved in any fraudulent activity, money laundering, terrorism financing or other criminal activity.
 
Best regards,
Diana
Skrill Help Team[
 
Copyright © Paysafe Group plc. All rights reserved. Skrill Limited (FRN: 900001) is authorised by the Financial Conduct Authority under the Electronic Money Regulations 2011 for the issuing of electronic money and payment instruments. Skrill is a registered trademark of Skrill Limited"

Coincidentally those were the only 44.40EUR left in my account.
Funny how it's illegal to exchange bitcoins bought from an ATM for Skrill on a registered Platform, but it's not illegal to accept bitcoin deposits from unknown sources, then lie to your customers and steal from them. Those people are up to a big surprise. They told me their internal rules are above the law. Hahahah. Probably what that Nasdaq Guy thought too.
They thought I was joking when I called them because no one has sued them before and no one has ever reported them to a governing authority. It will be interesting when the cops show with all the details in hand.

EDIT: Letters sent to the ECB, IMF, FRB, SEC, and BOE.
I can't wait to see when they hand those bastards a Cease and Desist Order and their website says - FBI - THIS DOMAIN NAME HAS BEEN SEIZED.

[krack-r]

I appeal to anyone who's been scammed by Skrill to send a tip to the FBI from here.

[game-protect]

Or organize a class action in London!

This guy asked Skrill to reverse transactions to an illegal gambling operation and Skrill said this is not possible because they are irreversible based on 9.4!

Does Skrill make contradictory statements in their legally binding contract?

A claimant who deposited a 5 digit amount to an illegal gambling operation, asked Skrill to reverse the transactions based on:

11.2. It is strictly forbidden to make payments to or to receive payments from persons or entities offering illegal gambling services, including (but not limited to) illegal sports betting, casino games and poker games. We may suspend or terminate your Skrill Account at any time or refuse to execute or reverse a transaction if we believe that you directly or indirectly use or have used your Skrill Account for or in connection with illegal gambling transactions.

and

11.6 If you conduct or attempt to conduct any transaction in violation of the prohibitions contained in this section 11 or without the necessary approval under section 11.5, we reserve the right to; reverse the transaction; and/or close or suspend your Skrill Account; and/or report the transaction to the relevant law enforcement agency; and/or claim damages from you; and charge you an administration fee of up to 150 EUR in case we apply any of the above.

and received the following response:

Skrill response

Concerning your claim for indemnification, we would like to confirm that Skrill has successfully processed all of your payments to ... as per your authorization and instructions at the time and that such payments are considered final and irreversible according to section 9.4 of Skrill’s

General Terms of Use:

Quote

9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address (...) Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

Unquote

Thus, Skrill cannot be reasonably expected to reverse the said payments you are now disputing.

Absurdity at its best and I advised claimant to step back from the contract because of willful deception and demand indemnification in full height:

Reason

Whether Skrill reserve the right to reverse a transaction or not is a key point of the contract and it is usually juridical not valid by the civil laws of a country to have contradictory paragraphs in a contract.


Funny how people report that Skrill reverse transactions, even though they are allegedly final and irreversible!

[krack-r]

Or organize a class action in London!

This guy asked Skrill to reverse transactions to an illegal gambling operation and Skrill said this is not possible because they are irreversible based on 9.4!

Does Skrill make contradictory statements in their legally binding contract?

A claimant who deposited a 5 digit amount to an illegal gambling operation, asked Skrill to reverse the transactions based on:

11.2. It is strictly forbidden to make payments to or to receive payments from persons or entities offering illegal gambling services, including (but not limited to) illegal sports betting, casino games and poker games. We may suspend or terminate your Skrill Account at any time or refuse to execute or reverse a transaction if we believe that you directly or indirectly use or have used your Skrill Account for or in connection with illegal gambling transactions.

and

11.6 If you conduct or attempt to conduct any transaction in violation of the prohibitions contained in this section 11 or without the necessary approval under section 11.5, we reserve the right to; reverse the transaction; and/or close or suspend your Skrill Account; and/or report the transaction to the relevant law enforcement agency; and/or claim damages from you; and charge you an administration fee of up to 150 EUR in case we apply any of the above.

and received the following response:

Skrill response

Concerning your claim for indemnification, we would like to confirm that Skrill has successfully processed all of your payments to ... as per your authorization and instructions at the time and that such payments are considered final and irreversible according to section 9.4 of Skrill’s

General Terms of Use:

Quote

9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address (...) Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

Unquote

Thus, Skrill cannot be reasonably expected to reverse the said payments you are now disputing.

Absurdity at its best and I advised claimant to step back from the contract because of willful deception and demand indemnification in full height:

Reason

Whether Skrill reserve the right to reverse a transaction or not is a key point of the contract and it is usually juridical not valid by the civil laws of a country to have contradictory paragraphs in a contract.


Funny how people report that Skrill reverse transactions, even though they are allegedly final and irreversible!

Also - this! If there are more victims to those Kabal of Fraudsters - let me know and lets organize a nice class action lawsuit on top of the criminal charges that they'll be facing soon.
Not providing any details and I have proof that they reverse SHIT. I think that their "Fraud Managers" are exactly what their pompous title says. They just steal money from accounts they deem "suspicious", under the assumption that people are not going to defend their rights, because money were stolen. In most cases this is not true!

Again - anyone whose fallen victim to those bastards - contact me here on the topic or on PM and lets meet and make things happen.

Paypal provides all kinds of information when they reverse transactions, and I have phone records of Skrill denying information, and making false statements. I have those on email as well!

[game-protect]

They protect criminal operators against any law, as it is in their interest. And they take money from private customers, as they know they will anyway not initiate any legal action.

This would be the first class action against them in London.

This guy has proof of the criminal gambling operator, as they let house bots run and did not pay leaderboard prizes. He offered proof to Skrill, but they had no interest. He asked Skrill to report this case to the authorities, in accordance with Skrill's ToS, but they did not.

He also reported his case to the Financial Ombudsman and FCA, but I don't know if there is any outcome so far. I think not.

Yes, victims should unite those cases.

[krack-r]

I also informed the FBI, because I know they don't have that kind of connections.
Also - the IMF - if they send it for investigation people will be heard and someone is going to prison.
And the 100s of millions of fines that they will pay is just the topping on the cake.

[game-protect]

Bitnovo / Skrill

Both of these companies are dishonest and will keep your money.

Bitnovo asked me for a bunch of verification documents/pictures after making two deposits from a verified skrill business account.

After sending in pictures of my ID next to the order number, my ID in a selfie, and whatever else they requested, they kept asking for more and more verification documents, so I told them to cancel the order and go fuck themselves.  Don't need to hear your comments about my language, I was extremely frustrated at this point and am sick and tired of "bitcoin" shady services becoming unreasonable with the amount of verification they need.  So they told me they would refund the transactions, that's all I'm asking for.  I have absolutely no interest in using their company and use many other bitcoin services instead.



That email was sent to me on the 10th of November.  It's now the 24th of November and I haven't had the money re-deposited into my Skrill account (1000$).

I have reported this to Skrill and they have not responded either.  Bitnovo and Skrill are both untrustworthy, shady services that will keep your money when you simply want to cancel the transaction.

[krack-r]

Bitnovo / Skrill

Both of these companies are dishonest and will keep your money.

Bitnovo asked me for a bunch of verification documents/pictures after making two deposits from a verified skrill business account.

After sending in pictures of my ID next to the order number, my ID in a selfie, and whatever else they requested, they kept asking for more and more verification documents, so I told them to cancel the order and go fuck themselves.  Don't need to hear your comments about my language, I was extremely frustrated at this point and am sick and tired of "bitcoin" shady services becoming unreasonable with the amount of verification they need.  So they told me they would refund the transactions, that's all I'm asking for.  I have absolutely no interest in using their company and use many other bitcoin services instead.

https://i.imgur.com/YNmXord.png

That email was sent to me on the 10th of November.  It's now the 24th of November and I haven't had the money re-deposited into my Skrill account (1000$).

I have reported this to Skrill and they have not responded either.  Bitnovo and Skrill are both untrustworthy, shady services that will keep your money when you simply want to cancel the transaction.

pm to the user sent with request for information

[suchmoon]

Is chronoshift your alt or you just don't know how to quote properly?

[krack-r]

i dont have alts

[game-protect]

Is chronoshift your alt or you just don't know how to quote properly?

For what would I need alt accounts?

Instead of the author, I state the thread title that links to the author, but I can change this if you wish?

[suchmoon]

Is chronoshift your alt or you just don't know how to quote properly?

For what would I need alt accounts?

Instead of the author, I state the thread title that links to the author, but I can change this if you wish?

IDC if you need alt accounts or whether you change it or not. It's just another reason why nothing you post can be trusted in any way.

i dont have alts

Good for you. Have you reported Skrill to the NSA yet?

[U2]

I think you may need to adjust your tinfoil hat to the correct frequency. I really highly doubt this person was watching you but the 500 would sting either way.

[game-protect]

IDC if you need alt accounts or whether you change it or not. It's just another reason why nothing you post can be trusted in any way.

Why did you ask if you do not care? Makes no sense...

Give me a call, the day you are able to disprove my statements.

Good for you. Have you reported Skrill to the NSA yet?

Maybe you missed that part, but Skrill is incorporated and regulated in London and not in the US!

[suchmoon]

Good for you. Have you reported Skrill to the NSA yet?

Maybe you missed that part, but Skrill is incorporated and regulated in London and not in the US!

1) not really asking you.
2) krack-r claims to have reported it to the FBI and the SEC, so why not NSA or NASA or Green Peace too.

In other words, someone here definitely has no clue how financial disputes work and it ain't me.

[krack-r]

Good for you. Have you reported Skrill to the NSA yet?

Maybe you missed that part, but Skrill is incorporated and regulated in London and not in the US!

1) not really asking you.
2) krack-r claims to have reported it to the FBI and the SEC, so why not NSA or NASA or Green Peace too.

In other words, someone here definitely has no clue how financial disputes work and it ain't me.

Dude, I want to end those bastards. And SEC, IMF and FBI are exactly who I am supposed to inform.
I was informed and shown a screenshot from another user, proving that he wasn't refunded as well.
Basically Skrill admitted they are stealing.
And the hypocrisy of these people - they verify accounts, registered with bogus ID, and anyone with such account is able to deposit bitcoins. Bitcoins with unknown origin - might be from drugs, or terrorism, which de facto constitutes Money Laundering. Why? Because you input dirty bitcoins in Skrill, then under false name withdraw state issued currency from an ATM thus laundering the dirty bitcoin.
Buying bitcoin from an ATM vs receipt and customer number with your Names and Paxful wallet is not money laundering, because the bitcoin you purchase have not yet been mined. When they're mined and the whole block is sent out, then your bitcoins are in existence. And since I've verified bank accounts, IDs, cards, addresses - through letters, they actually know who I am. The issue is that they are not familiar with the law.
BTW suchmoon, SEC regulates Bitcoin in the USA. So perhaps you don't know how complaints work!

I think you may need to adjust your tinfoil hat to the correct frequency. I really highly doubt this person was watching you but the 500 would sting either way.

Fellow bitcoiners. There are horror stories online for people who lost 5 digit amounts because of Skrill.
And since there is no proof - they provide no information which transactions and to whom are reversed - it is safe to assume that they just stole the money.
And until now, no one has ever done anything. No matter what the outcome - when I have official replies from the above agencies (i informed them via Priority mail, not email) - i will be able to use to prevent people from even using Skrill and those will be the first nails in their coffin.
I dont even care about my own money that much, but the arrogance and Above the Law attitude drives me crazy. Who do those people think they are?
Again the Nasdaq guy probably thought he's invincible too. Guess what - he wasn't.
I am sure that they will at least fine Skrill severely. Let them get a million dollar hit and force them to provide information to their customers.
Their so called "investigation process" is basically a lie.
Paypal send you all kinds of information when a transaction is reversed, and they never charge bogus charges to nullify your account. Which by the way is also illegal.
Their rules for using skrill are 1 thing, but stealing is a crime! No matter how you look at it.

They provide payment services to known Russian Jewish crime rings like FXOpen, an the likes of them, who trade against their users, but steal money from honest bitcoin traders.
I think they should be banned from existence as a payment provider. A nice seizure. That would really make me happy. This is how the little guy wins - by making noise. Otherwise - you just take it and shut up.

And Im not from the people that take it!

[suchmoon]

Buying bitcoin from an ATM vs receipt and customer number with your Names and Paxful wallet is not money laundering, because the bitcoin you purchase have not yet been mined. When they're mined and the whole block is sent out, then your bitcoins are in existence.

I know what you're smoking must be really good but maybe you should moderate it a little bit.

Russian Jewish crime ring

adjust your tinfoil hat

[krack-r]

Buying bitcoin from an ATM vs receipt and customer number with your Names and Paxful wallet is not money laundering, because the bitcoin you purchase have not yet been mined. When they're mined and the whole block is sent out, then your bitcoins are in existence.

I know what you're smoking must be really good but maybe you should moderate it a little bit.

Russian Jewish crime ring

adjust your tinfoil hat

Bro, most of the market maker Forex brokers are Jews from Russia. It's not a racist statement. It's the truth. I've met a lot of them. Not personally, but my bosses were friends with some. And they are Jews for sure - speaking Hebrew and all.

Also a shocker - there are no more than 10 Forex brokers that won't trade against you - the likes of Hotspot, that requires 1,000,000$ deposit. In fact most FX brokers have accounts with Hotspot, which provides liquidity for them.

And bitcoin ATMs, at least those that I use, do it through the blockchain API, ordering bitcoin from the next available block. When the whole block gets confirmed then all transactions are sent out.

Ask a dev if you don't trust me.

[suchmoon]

Buying bitcoin from an ATM vs receipt and customer number with your Names and Paxful wallet is not money laundering, because the bitcoin you purchase have not yet been mined. When they're mined and the whole block is sent out, then your bitcoins are in existence.

I know what you're smoking must be really good but maybe you should moderate it a little bit.

Russian Jewish crime ring

adjust your tinfoil hat

Bro, most of the market maker Forex brokers are Jews from Russia. It's not a racist statement. It's the truth. I've met a lot of them. Not personally, but my bosses were friends with some. And they are Jews for sure - speaking Hebrew and all.

Also a shocker - there are no more than 10 Forex brokers that won't trade against you - the likes of Hotspot, that requires 1,000,000$ deposit. In fact most FX brokers have accounts with Hotspot, which provides liquidity for them.

And bitcoin ATMs, at least those that I use, do it through the blockchain API, ordering bitcoin from the next available block. When the whole block gets confirmed then all transactions are sent out.

Ask a dev if you don't trust me.

What happens if ATM customers buy more than 12.5 BTC?

[krack-r]

Buying bitcoin from an ATM vs receipt and customer number with your Names and Paxful wallet is not money laundering, because the bitcoin you purchase have not yet been mined. When they're mined and the whole block is sent out, then your bitcoins are in existence.

I know what you're smoking must be really good but maybe you should moderate it a little bit.

Russian Jewish crime ring

adjust your tinfoil hat

Bro, most of the market maker Forex brokers are Jews from Russia. It's not a racist statement. It's the truth. I've met a lot of them. Not personally, but my bosses were friends with some. And they are Jews for sure - speaking Hebrew and all.

Also a shocker - there are no more than 10 Forex brokers that won't trade against you - the likes of Hotspot, that requires 1,000,000$ deposit. In fact most FX brokers have accounts with Hotspot, which provides liquidity for them.

And bitcoin ATMs, at least those that I use, do it through the blockchain API, ordering bitcoin from the next available block. When the whole block gets confirmed then all transactions are sent out.

Ask a dev if you don't trust me.

What happens if ATM customers buy more than 12.5 BTC?

12.5BTC is the miners reward.
The value is much higher - take block 454676 for example
Total Output value - 1,914.66417485 BTC.

And the API places transactions according to date-time queue.
If there are free outputs in a certain block the API places the transaction in it. Otherwise it chooses lock-time into another block.
The larger the transaction - the faster execution.
And the ATM I know allows upto 10,000EUR/transaction. So IDK what happens if you order 12.5BTC or more at once. You would have to have 500EUR notes, otherwise you'd be swinging banknotes all day. Which, albeit fun, wouldn't be very secure.

[suchmoon]

Buying bitcoin from an ATM vs receipt and customer number with your Names and Paxful wallet is not money laundering, because the bitcoin you purchase have not yet been mined. When they're mined and the whole block is sent out, then your bitcoins are in existence.

I know what you're smoking must be really good but maybe you should moderate it a little bit.

Russian Jewish crime ring

adjust your tinfoil hat

Bro, most of the market maker Forex brokers are Jews from Russia. It's not a racist statement. It's the truth. I've met a lot of them. Not personally, but my bosses were friends with some. And they are Jews for sure - speaking Hebrew and all.

Also a shocker - there are no more than 10 Forex brokers that won't trade against you - the likes of Hotspot, that requires 1,000,000$ deposit. In fact most FX brokers have accounts with Hotspot, which provides liquidity for them.

And bitcoin ATMs, at least those that I use, do it through the blockchain API, ordering bitcoin from the next available block. When the whole block gets confirmed then all transactions are sent out.

Ask a dev if you don't trust me.

What happens if ATM customers buy more than 12.5 BTC?

12.5BTC is the miners reward.
The value is much higher - take block 454676 for example
Total Output value - 1,914.66417485 BTC.

And the API places transactions according to date-time queue.
If there are free outputs in a certain block the API places the transaction in it. Otherwise it chooses lock-time into another block.
The larger the transaction - the faster execution.
And the ATM I know allows upto 10,000EUR/transaction. So IDK what happens if you order 12.5BTC or more at once. You would have to have 500EUR notes, otherwise you'd be swinging banknotes all day. Which, albeit fun, wouldn't be very secure.

So how does that square with your statement about the bitcoins being pooped into existence by the ATM? It's just a Bitcoin transaction like any other. The coins come from someone else, who may or may no be laundering them, not that it has any bearing here.

You surely have a vivid imagination, which probably is the more plausible reason for your trouble with Skrill than some conspiracy.

[krack-r]

Buying bitcoin from an ATM vs receipt and customer number with your Names and Paxful wallet is not money laundering, because the bitcoin you purchase have not yet been mined. When they're mined and the whole block is sent out, then your bitcoins are in existence.

I know what you're smoking must be really good but maybe you should moderate it a little bit.

Russian Jewish crime ring

adjust your tinfoil hat

Bro, most of the market maker Forex brokers are Jews from Russia. It's not a racist statement. It's the truth. I've met a lot of them. Not personally, but my bosses were friends with some. And they are Jews for sure - speaking Hebrew and all.

Also a shocker - there are no more than 10 Forex brokers that won't trade against you - the likes of Hotspot, that requires 1,000,000$ deposit. In fact most FX brokers have accounts with Hotspot, which provides liquidity for them.

And bitcoin ATMs, at least those that I use, do it through the blockchain API, ordering bitcoin from the next available block. When the whole block gets confirmed then all transactions are sent out.

Ask a dev if you don't trust me.

What happens if ATM customers buy more than 12.5 BTC?

12.5BTC is the miners reward.
The value is much higher - take block 454676 for example
Total Output value - 1,914.66417485 BTC.

And the API places transactions according to date-time queue.
If there are free outputs in a certain block the API places the transaction in it. Otherwise it chooses lock-time into another block.
The larger the transaction - the faster execution.
And the ATM I know allows upto 10,000EUR/transaction. So IDK what happens if you order 12.5BTC or more at once. You would have to have 500EUR notes, otherwise you'd be swinging banknotes all day. Which, albeit fun, wouldn't be very secure.

So how does that square with your statement about the bitcoins being pooped into existence by the ATM? It's just a Bitcoin transaction like any other. The coins come from someone else, who may or may no be laundering them, not that it has any bearing here.

You surely have a vivid imagination, which probably is the more plausible reason for your trouble with Skrill than some conspiracy.

You're being a condescending prick, but thats OK. When I destroy Skrill it will make your apology even sweeter.
Skrill are stealing. 3 people confirmed with quite the evidence that Skrill has reversed dick.
Since ice not been given any data to whom and how much is reversed, only that a fee was apllied I assume they just stole and its a safe assumption.

About the ATM - the blocks which transactions wre placed in are the newest mined blocks.

[suchmoon]

You're being a condescending prick, but thats OK. When I destroy Skrill it will make your apology even sweeter.
Skrill are stealing. 3 people confirmed with quite the evidence that Skrill has reversed dick.
Since ice not been given any data to whom and how much is reversed, only that a fee was apllied I assume they just stole and its a safe assumption.

About the ATM - the blocks which transactions wre placed in are the newest mined blocks.

How is that different from any other BTC transaction? How does that make bitcoins magically come into existence? What does it have to do with Skrill?

[krack-r]

You're being a condescending prick, but thats OK. When I destroy Skrill it will make your apology even sweeter.
Skrill are stealing. 3 people confirmed with quite the evidence that Skrill has reversed dick.
Since ice not been given any data to whom and how much is reversed, only that a fee was apllied I assume they just stole and its a safe assumption.

About the ATM - the blocks which transactions wre placed in are the newest mined blocks.

How is that different from any other BTC transaction? How does that make bitcoins magically come into existence? What does it have to do with Skrill?

Simple - their excuse to steal my money was that im trading bitcoin. And my bitcoins can be traced.
They on the other hand accept bitcoi  deposits which thy are unable to trace.
Whish is by default money laundering.

[suchmoon]

You're being a condescending prick, but thats OK. When I destroy Skrill it will make your apology even sweeter.
Skrill are stealing. 3 people confirmed with quite the evidence that Skrill has reversed dick.
Since ice not been given any data to whom and how much is reversed, only that a fee was apllied I assume they just stole and its a safe assumption.

About the ATM - the blocks which transactions wre placed in are the newest mined blocks.

How is that different from any other BTC transaction? How does that make bitcoins magically come into existence? What does it have to do with Skrill?

Simple - their excuse to steal my money was that im trading bitcoin. And my bitcoins can be traced.
They on the other hand accept bitcoi  deposits which thy are unable to trace.
Whish is by default money laundering.

How exactly does Skrill accept Bitcoin deposits?

It looks like you violated their TOS repeatedly. It's really hard to follow all your contradictory rants but it sounds like you're fully aware of it and your excuse is "others do it too". What did your lawyer tell you after he/she stopped laughing?

[krack-r]

You're being a condescending prick, but thats OK. When I destroy Skrill it will make your apology even sweeter.
Skrill are stealing. 3 people confirmed with quite the evidence that Skrill has reversed dick.
Since ice not been given any data to whom and how much is reversed, only that a fee was apllied I assume they just stole and its a safe assumption.

About the ATM - the blocks which transactions wre placed in are the newest mined blocks.

How is that different from any other BTC transaction? How does that make bitcoins magically come into existence? What does it have to do with Skrill?

Simple - their excuse to steal my money was that im trading bitcoin. And my bitcoins can be traced.
They on the other hand accept bitcoi  deposits which thy are unable to trace.
Whish is by default money laundering.

How exactly does Skrill accept Bitcoin deposits?

It looks like you violated their TOS repeatedly. It's really hard to follow all your contradictory rants but it sounds like you're fully aware of it and your excuse is "others do it too". What did your lawyer tell you after he/she stopped laughing?

how about logging into skrill and trying it out instead of asking dumb questions
they do accept deposits in bitcoin

[suchmoon]

how about logging into skrill and trying it out instead of asking dumb questions
they do accept deposits in bitcoin

I don't have an account. It doesn't look though like you used Skrill's Bitcoin deposit function for your activities, you just keep bringing up all sorts of unrelated stuff. I'll leave you to it. Let me know when Skrill is destroyed so I can apologize.

[krack-r]

how about logging into skrill and trying it out instead of asking dumb questions
they do accept deposits in bitcoin

I don't have an account. It doesn't look though like you used Skrill's Bitcoin deposit function for your activities, you just keep bringing up all sorts of unrelated stuff. I'll leave you to it. Let me know when Skrill is destroyed so I can apologize.

I exchanged my bitcoin on Paxful vs Skrill.
I will let you know when its OK to apologize.

[krack-r]

EDIT: What I received as a reply from one of the people i dealt with:



These people continue to dig their own grave.

[game-protect]

Did you file a complaint to the Financial Ombudsman meanwhile?

http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/consumer/complaints.htm

Everyone should do this and then share the case reference numbers with each other, so everyone can refer to the other cases, so that the Ombudsman can see that Skrill do this habitually.

[suchmoon]

EDIT: What I received as a reply from one of the people i dealt with:

https://s13.postimg.org/w2bf2uzkn/skr3.jpg

These people continue to dig their own grave.

How many Paxful accounts do you have?

[game-protect]

Just found this: Skrill restricted account

[krack-r]

EDIT: What I received as a reply from one of the people i dealt with:

https://s13.postimg.org/w2bf2uzkn/skr3.jpg

These people continue to dig their own grave.

How many Paxful accounts do you have?

Just one.
The screenshot was sent to me by Zenyatta19 - a Paxful user with 107 positive and 0 negative ratings.
You can ask her here or on Paxful.
Why was it sent to me? Because I reported fraud to Paxful and they blocked her account. Then she sent this and a couple of more screenshots, proving her innocence, and I asked them to unblock her.

I dont get you. Why would I buy bitcoin with cash through an ATM only to sell it to myself for 25% charge? To have the privilege to pay 80$ fees? And Skrill has cookies and I would hope a system that might be able to detect multiple accounts - not only IP address, but MAC address, processor type, serial number of the motherboard. Also - I've registered my phone with their App. It's in my name. They are able to see all my data. They just steal. Why would that be so hard to believe? Check their Trustpilot rating.
Just a few opinions from the last few days:

Jack Randers
2 reviews
Published 24 hours ago
They owned by Paysafecard - most arrogant liars on the world

Skrill is now member of Paysafe group, which stole my 100 EUR with no reason. They have arrogant support which never help you.

Finally i ordered QCK card from another company and now i easily pay anything on the net from anonymous prepaid card. No problems, no ID requests, no stress.

Avoid to use Paysafe and Skrill. Try another solutions.

Jack

Miroslav Milosevic
3 reviews

Published 26 hours ago
Severe staff incompetency puts you at risk of losing money.

I had several SERIOUS issues with this company. Luckily it is all solved but I had to go through a serious amount of stress before it because people in their customer support are completely incompetent.

1. I added a new bank account and tried withdrawing.
2. two days later the transfer was refused, Skrill's security algorithms "prevented a hack attempt" despite I did it on my own, with my very own PC through my very own Internet connection. Also, my Skrill account was blocked and I couldn't initiate any withdrawals.
3. The CS requested me to send additional images of personal documents, despite the account has already been verified for a long time.
4. Tried to do so, but there is a kind of incompatibility between two mail servers which made all attachments stripped.
5. Did the same with another email address, the one used with an old Skrill account I did close two years before, but I clearly stated to which user and support ticket case the message refers and what I want Attachments went thru successfully.
6. The CS team REINSTATED THE OLD ACCOUNT AND CLOSED THE EXISTING ONE WHICH HAD FUNDS ON IT, thus breaching their own Terms of Service. None asked em to do so. They don't seem to have ever bothered reading the messages and my requests clearly.
7. I called in the live tech support directly, they fixed the issue for me, but I had to spend excess money on international calls after having hours of stress from seeing my funds abruptly perish.

The issue is resolved now, and though I wish I could stay with Skrill I am about to close my account permanently. Sorry this ended like that, but simply I no longer feel safe there, the security of user funds there is threatened by staff stupidity.

Joseph Stott
1 review
Published 3 days ago
lying customer support

I stopped using skrill when they introduced crazy high withdraw fee's. 5 years later I tried to log into my old account and was told to contact them. I had no money in my account it was probably shut down due to inactivity or something but customer support said they "ceased business with me" because I violated their terms of service and then highlighted "providing truthful information" as one of the terms of service. Basically saying I lied to them to try and launder money. lol! I don't think I ever withdrew any money and never linked any ID or bank account in name other than my own. I have moved house a lot and I asked if maybe they thought I provided "false information" about where I lived because they had the wrong address on file or something. They basically said "we don't have to tell you what you did wrong, please get lost." That was their response to all inquiries... THESE PEOPLE HANDLE MONEY?! RUN!

Ashish
1 review
Published 6 days ago
Fraud company

Never use skrill if you want to keep your hard earned money with you they are doing open fraud with FCA license they block your account without any reason and give no answer to your mails.

KEVIN
2 reviews
Published 6 days ago
THE WORST COMPANY OF THEM ALL

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM AND RIP OFF COMPANY....THEY WILL TRY TO HOLD YOUR MONEY FOR 6 MONTHS.....ILLEGAL SCAM BUSINESS. THEY AVOID TALKING TO YOU AND THEY ARE THIEVES. NOT SURE HOW THEY EVEN STAY IN BUSINESS....IDIOTS

Do you think I own trustpilot too?
Stop accusing me. What is your deal exactly?

Did you file a complaint to the Financial Ombudsman meanwhile?

http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/consumer/complaints.htm

Everyone should do this and then share the case reference numbers with each other, so everyone can refer to the other cases, so that the Ombudsman can see that Skrill do this habitually.

I did but told me that they weren't able to assist me.
They sent me a form that i typed in and sent it back, along with all the proof I have.
They are probably buddies with the CEO of Skrill and are just a front, so people think they will receive help from them.

Thanks for the link. I'll ask the person for assistance as well.

[krack-r]

I just received this email TONIGHT like 5 minutes ago from those people...
They've probably been contacted by the cops, and now they want to act as if they've informed me timely...
My card was blocked 2 weeks ago, and I never requested to cancel anything. They decided that on their own.