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February 20, 2017, 06:57:54 PM
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Issue is that one of their Sr. Fraud Analysts knows me and has a grudge over me. And he's placed me in a weird list where all my trasactions are monitored.
Users DianeT510, meinfreil and Zenyatta19 have sent payments to me, I released the bitcoins immediately and they went to complain to Skrill to reverse the Payments. DianeT510 even replied to me that she didn't request a refund. Sent me screenshots of her Skrill, but still those bastards reversed my payments.

I am filed a lawsuit against Skrill today. They disabled my account, they lied on record that I would be able to withdraw my money, then they reversed all. And charged me 45EUR fee for it... I have nothing left now.
I am also filing criminal charges tomorrow, because what they did is fraud.

I will keep you updated. I will make a big noise about this.

I lost more than 500EUR - and I have receipts from a BITCOIN ATM and all - showing recipient address on Paxful.
I also shown them the transaction chat logs. And people confirming they didn't want a refund.

The arrogance of their personnel is going to cost them JAIL TIME as well as brutal fines.
All the big dogs have been alerted. I expect action within a few weeks.

EDIT: FYI - today 3 people from AW-Tronics were arrested because they lied to the DoJ in their documents for selling parts in Syria. 1 of them from Bulgaria (where Skrill's Security Team is located).
Don't forget that Trump is stumping hard on the Arabs and Money Laundering from their countries. This is going to be heavy hit on S(hit)krill

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February 20, 2017, 09:45:43 PM
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I am filing a lawsuit against Skrill tomorrow. They just disabled my account, they lied on record that I would be able to withdraw my money, then they reversed all. And charged me 45EUR fee for it... I have nothing left now.

I will keep you updated. I will make a big noise about this.

Use the scam report format: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

Be specific as to which Skrill/Paxful user(s) scammed you.
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February 20, 2017, 10:03:27 PM
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You can send a complaint to Skrill's regulator FCA https://www.fca.org.uk/contact and you can give your case also to http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/ , it is cost free.

Please ask them based on which paragraph in the ToS they reversed the transaction?

According to Skrill's ToS, transactions are irreversible:

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9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address, unless you use the Skrill Escrow Service as described in section 13. Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

Here is another guy: [UNIQUARK][570 eur skrill chargeback]
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You can send a complaint to Skrill's regulator FCA https://www.fca.org.uk/contact and you can give your case also to http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/ , it is cost free.

Please ask them based on which paragraph in the ToS they reversed the transaction?

According to Skrill's ToS, transactions are irreversible:

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9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address, unless you use the Skrill Escrow Service as described in section 13. Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

Here is another guy: [UNIQUARK][570 eur skrill chargeback]

I sent an email to the financial-ombudsman and a regular mail to the FCA as well as the District Court - i filed an official complaint and Im awaiting trial now.
I will also go to the cops with those bastards.

They sent me an email that was really vague and full of non sense. BTW: They accept BTC deposits, which is in actuality money laundering, so Im wondering If I should also alert the IMF. On the other hand - why wouldn't I?

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Issue is that one of their Sr. Fraud Analysts knows me and has a grudge over me. And he's placed me in a weird list where all my trasactions are monitored.

I am curious, firstly, how would you even know that a Senior Fraud Analyst has a grudge against you? Do you know them personally or only in a business sense? It's even stranger that you're on some kind of fraud list, why would you end up on it? It seems like you're selectively excluding some information

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February 21, 2017, 07:31:41 PM
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Issue is that one of their Sr. Fraud Analysts knows me and has a grudge over me. And he's placed me in a weird list where all my trasactions are monitored.

I am curious, firstly, how would you even know that a Senior Fraud Analyst has a grudge against you? Do you know them personally or only in a business sense? It's even stranger that you're on some kind of fraud list, why would you end up on it? It seems like you're selectively excluding some information

Dude, think about it. This payment processor conducts millions of transactions daily. Many people transact on localbitoins and paxful and have thousands of transactions through skrill, and their accounts are never blocked.
It is simply impossible to check every transaction by hand.

My customers never place any memos including bitcoin when they send payments. And yet my account was blocked 3 times for the last 2 months, 2 of which on the last 12 days. And those are limited transactions - in the amounts of 50 - 250$. Im not talking abount 5 grand at once or 10 grand at once, which would be suspicious indeed.
And since I've worked in similar companies, I know that they have monitoring lists of "suspicious" accounts.

Paysafe's Sr. Fraud Manager for Digital Wallets lived in the same building with me, and he knows me personally for 20 years.
Also - an interesting update. DianeT510 sent me an email today, with screenshots from her account, from which is visible that she did not receive any payment back. The payment is marked as processed. Not cancelled. Not reversed. So Skrill are basically stealing money from their customers, claiming that payments were reversed.
They've also denied any details about which transaction, for what amount was reversed and to whom. This is in a recorded phone conversation. They just said that recent transactions were reversed, and they charged me 44.30EUR administrative fee. And coincidentally this was the only amount left after the "reversals", so my current balance is exactly 0.
They've also lied to me twice over the phone and on email that I will be able to withdraw my money to a bank account. After which without any notification, they just disabled the account.
I am definitely going to the cops and Im sending letters to the IMF and the ESFS. I already submitted a tip to Europol.

I will update you on the progress, but I am sure those bastards will lose their license to operate as a payment processor soon.
In PayPal even if the account is disabled they provide detailed information of which transaction and the reason for reversal.
And in most cases you get the money back within 6 months to a bank account.

EDIT: FBI tipped as well. I am going to end their money laundering operation. Fuckn scammers.

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Can you please post Skrill's explanation based on what they reversed the transactions? Thank you!
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It says something like:

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"Dear XXXX,
Following up onto your case, please note that following a recent audit of your Skrill account, we found reasonable grounds to discontinue our business relationship. Therefore your account has been closed. Please note that this decision is final.

Be advised that we have reversed some of your receive money transactions and the funds have been returned back to the senders of the payments. Further to our Terms and Conditions, we have also charged you an administrative fee of 44.40 EUR.
 
More information on the issue is available in the Terms and Conditions you accepted when you registered. The following articles apply:
 
4. Opening Your Skrill Account
[ ... ]
4.5. All information you provide during the signup process or any time thereafter must be accurate and truthful.
[ ... ]
 
11. Prohibited Transactions
[ ... ]
11.4. It is strictly forbidden to use your Skrill Account for any illegal purposes including but not limited to fraud and money laundering. We will report any suspicious activity to the relevant law enforcement agency. You are prohibited from using your Skrill Account in an attempt to abuse, exploit or circumvent the usage restrictions imposed by a merchant on the services it provides.
[ ... ]
11.6. If you conduct or attempt to conduct any transaction in violation of the prohibitions contained in this section 11 or without the necessary approval under section 11.5, we reserve the right to:

• reverse the transaction; and/or
• close or suspend your Skrill Account; and/or
• report the transaction to the relevant law enforcement agency; and/or
• claim damages from you; and
• charge you an administration fee of up to 150 EUR in case we apply any of the above.

[ ... ]

17. Termination and suspension
[ ... ]
17.4. We may at any time suspend or terminate your Skrill Account without notice in case:
17.4.1. you breach any condition of these Terms of Use or any other condition applicable to specific services covered by separate terms and conditions;
17.4.2. you violate or we have reason to believe that you are in violation of any law or regulation that is applicable to your use of our services; or
17.4.3. we have reason to believe that you are in any way involved in any fraudulent activity, money laundering, terrorism financing or other criminal activity.
 
Best regards,
Diana
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Copyright © Paysafe Group plc. All rights reserved. Skrill Limited (FRN: 900001) is authorised by the Financial Conduct Authority under the Electronic Money Regulations 2011 for the issuing of electronic money and payment instruments. Skrill is a registered trademark of Skrill Limited"

Coincidentally those were the only 44.40EUR left in my account.
Funny how it's illegal to exchange bitcoins bought from an ATM for Skrill on a registered Platform, but it's not illegal to accept bitcoin deposits from unknown sources, then lie to your customers and steal from them. Those people are up to a big surprise. They told me their internal rules are above the law. Hahahah. Probably what that Nasdaq Guy thought too.
They thought I was joking when I called them because no one has sued them before and no one has ever reported them to a governing authority. It will be interesting when the cops show with all the details in hand.

EDIT: Letters sent to the ECB, IMF, FRB, SEC, and BOE.
I can't wait to see when they hand those bastards a Cease and Desist Order and their website says - FBI - THIS DOMAIN NAME HAS BEEN SEIZED.


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February 23, 2017, 08:15:32 AM
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I appeal to anyone who's been scammed by Skrill to send a tip to the FBI from here.

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Or organize a class action in London!

This guy asked Skrill to reverse transactions to an illegal gambling operation and Skrill said this is not possible because they are irreversible based on 9.4! Cheesy

Does Skrill make contradictory statements in their legally binding contract?

A claimant who deposited a 5 digit amount to an illegal gambling operation, asked Skrill to reverse the transactions based on:

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11.2. It is strictly forbidden to make payments to or to receive payments from persons or entities offering illegal gambling services, including (but not limited to) illegal sports betting, casino games and poker games. We may suspend or terminate your Skrill Account at any time or refuse to execute or reverse a transaction if we believe that you directly or indirectly use or have used your Skrill Account for or in connection with illegal gambling transactions.

and

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11.6 If you conduct or attempt to conduct any transaction in violation of the prohibitions contained in this section 11 or without the necessary approval under section 11.5, we reserve the right to; reverse the transaction; and/or close or suspend your Skrill Account; and/or report the transaction to the relevant law enforcement agency; and/or claim damages from you; and charge you an administration fee of up to 150 EUR in case we apply any of the above.

and received the following response:

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Concerning your claim for indemnification, we would like to confirm that Skrill has successfully processed all of your payments to ... as per your authorization and instructions at the time and that such payments are considered final and irreversible according to section 9.4 of Skrill’s

General Terms of Use:

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9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address (...) Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

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Thus, Skrill cannot be reasonably expected to reverse the said payments you are now disputing.

Absurdity at its best and I advised claimant to step back from the contract because of willful deception and demand indemnification in full height:

Reason

Whether Skrill reserve the right to reverse a transaction or not is a key point of the contract and it is usually juridical not valid by the civil laws of a country to have contradictory paragraphs in a contract.


Funny how people report that Skrill reverse transactions, even though they are allegedly final and irreversible!

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Or organize a class action in London!

This guy asked Skrill to reverse transactions to an illegal gambling operation and Skrill said this is not possible because they are irreversible based on 9.4! Cheesy

Does Skrill make contradictory statements in their legally binding contract?

A claimant who deposited a 5 digit amount to an illegal gambling operation, asked Skrill to reverse the transactions based on:

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11.2. It is strictly forbidden to make payments to or to receive payments from persons or entities offering illegal gambling services, including (but not limited to) illegal sports betting, casino games and poker games. We may suspend or terminate your Skrill Account at any time or refuse to execute or reverse a transaction if we believe that you directly or indirectly use or have used your Skrill Account for or in connection with illegal gambling transactions.

and

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11.6 If you conduct or attempt to conduct any transaction in violation of the prohibitions contained in this section 11 or without the necessary approval under section 11.5, we reserve the right to; reverse the transaction; and/or close or suspend your Skrill Account; and/or report the transaction to the relevant law enforcement agency; and/or claim damages from you; and charge you an administration fee of up to 150 EUR in case we apply any of the above.

and received the following response:

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Concerning your claim for indemnification, we would like to confirm that Skrill has successfully processed all of your payments to ... as per your authorization and instructions at the time and that such payments are considered final and irreversible according to section 9.4 of Skrill’s

General Terms of Use:

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9.4. If the e-mail address of the intended recipient is registered with us, the funds will be instantly credited to the Skrill Account associated with that e-mail address (...) Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.

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Thus, Skrill cannot be reasonably expected to reverse the said payments you are now disputing.

Absurdity at its best and I advised claimant to step back from the contract because of willful deception and demand indemnification in full height:

Reason

Whether Skrill reserve the right to reverse a transaction or not is a key point of the contract and it is usually juridical not valid by the civil laws of a country to have contradictory paragraphs in a contract.


Funny how people report that Skrill reverse transactions, even though they are allegedly final and irreversible!



Also - this! If there are more victims to those Kabal of Fraudsters - let me know and lets organize a nice class action lawsuit on top of the criminal charges that they'll be facing soon.
Not providing any details and I have proof that they reverse SHIT. I think that their "Fraud Managers" are exactly what their pompous title says. They just steal money from accounts they deem "suspicious", under the assumption that people are not going to defend their rights, because money were stolen. In most cases this is not true!

Again - anyone whose fallen victim to those bastards - contact me here on the topic or on PM and lets meet and make things happen.

Paypal provides all kinds of information when they reverse transactions, and I have phone records of Skrill denying information, and making false statements. I have those on email as well!

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They protect criminal operators against any law, as it is in their interest. And they take money from private customers, as they know they will anyway not initiate any legal action.

This would be the first class action against them in London.

This guy has proof of the criminal gambling operator, as they let house bots run and did not pay leaderboard prizes. He offered proof to Skrill, but they had no interest. He asked Skrill to report this case to the authorities, in accordance with Skrill's ToS, but they did not.

He also reported his case to the Financial Ombudsman and FCA, but I don't know if there is any outcome so far. I think not.

Yes, victims should unite those cases.
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I also informed the FBI, because I know they don't have that kind of connections.
Also - the IMF - if they send it for investigation people will be heard and someone is going to prison.
And the 100s of millions of fines that they will pay is just the topping on the cake.

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Bitnovo / Skrill

Both of these companies are dishonest and will keep your money.

Bitnovo asked me for a bunch of verification documents/pictures after making two deposits from a verified skrill business account.

After sending in pictures of my ID next to the order number, my ID in a selfie, and whatever else they requested, they kept asking for more and more verification documents, so I told them to cancel the order and go fuck themselves.  Don't need to hear your comments about my language, I was extremely frustrated at this point and am sick and tired of "bitcoin" shady services becoming unreasonable with the amount of verification they need.  So they told me they would refund the transactions, that's all I'm asking for.  I have absolutely no interest in using their company and use many other bitcoin services instead.



That email was sent to me on the 10th of November.  It's now the 24th of November and I haven't had the money re-deposited into my Skrill account (1000$).

I have reported this to Skrill and they have not responded either.  Bitnovo and Skrill are both untrustworthy, shady services that will keep your money when you simply want to cancel the transaction.
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Bitnovo / Skrill

Both of these companies are dishonest and will keep your money.

Bitnovo asked me for a bunch of verification documents/pictures after making two deposits from a verified skrill business account.

After sending in pictures of my ID next to the order number, my ID in a selfie, and whatever else they requested, they kept asking for more and more verification documents, so I told them to cancel the order and go fuck themselves.  Don't need to hear your comments about my language, I was extremely frustrated at this point and am sick and tired of "bitcoin" shady services becoming unreasonable with the amount of verification they need.  So they told me they would refund the transactions, that's all I'm asking for.  I have absolutely no interest in using their company and use many other bitcoin services instead.

https://i.imgur.com/YNmXord.png

That email was sent to me on the 10th of November.  It's now the 24th of November and I haven't had the money re-deposited into my Skrill account (1000$).

I have reported this to Skrill and they have not responded either.  Bitnovo and Skrill are both untrustworthy, shady services that will keep your money when you simply want to cancel the transaction.



pm to the user sent with request for information

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Is chronoshift your alt or you just don't know how to quote properly?
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i dont have alts

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Is chronoshift your alt or you just don't know how to quote properly?
For what would I need alt accounts?

Instead of the author, I state the thread title that links to the author, but I can change this if you wish?

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February 24, 2017, 11:57:40 PM
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Is chronoshift your alt or you just don't know how to quote properly?
For what would I need alt accounts?

Instead of the author, I state the thread title that links to the author, but I can change this if you wish?

IDC if you need alt accounts or whether you change it or not. It's just another reason why nothing you post can be trusted in any way.

i dont have alts

Good for you. Have you reported Skrill to the NSA yet?
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February 25, 2017, 12:12:52 AM
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I think you may need to adjust your tinfoil hat to the correct frequency. I really highly doubt this person was watching you but the 500 would sting either way.
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