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Wtf...i pay high fee .and bitcoins supposto be instant tansfers. Why should i pay fee for them if they dont do the job. and i cant take back transaction also and i cant talk with any support becouse blockchain dont have support person??? Blockchain are u kidding people do business money must move fast so what i say to my busineas partners now?? Thats insane...somebody need to do something. The exucuse that no enough enough miners.thats bs.. business is straight forward thing u cant joke about with money. in my opinion blovkchain is become scam. So sad people want anounyimity to use btc service but now u cant even trust btc service provider i think someone should do it some service when you transfer your money instant no name no bs.. just make the money to move. wtf...mining.?? I put real money into my bitcoin wallet i payed real money. But nobody there to give god damn answrs!!!
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February 22, 2017, 01:10:43 PM |
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Wtf...i pay high fee .and bitcoins supposto be instant tansfers. Why should i pay fee for them if they dont do the job. and i cant take back transaction also and i cant talk with any support becouse blockchain dont have support person??? Blockchain are u kidding people do business money must move fast so what i say to my busineas partners now?? Thats insane...somebody need to do something. The exucuse that no enough enough miners.thats bs.. business is straight forward thing u cant joke about with money. in my opinion blovkchain is become scam. So sad people want anounyimity to use btc service but now u cant even trust btc service provider i think someone should do it some service when you transfer your money instant no name no bs.. just make the money to move. wtf...mining.?? I put real money into my bitcoin wallet i payed real money. But nobody there to give god damn answrs!!! It has nothing to do with "not enough miners". The only thing that (probably) happened, is that blockchain.info (at least, i think you're talking about this online wallet) didn't propose a sufficiently high fee. I'll skip the technical, confusing, explanation and just go to the conclusion: - 1 block is mined about every ~10 minutes
- Each block has a maximum size of 1 Mb
- This means that a maximum of ~3000 transactions can be included in a block every 10 minutes (theoretically, there could be more transactions into a block, but usually it's even less.... ~2000)
- If more than those 3000 transactions are broadcasted in a 10 minute window, some transactions will not get into the next block
- The miner can pick which transactions he/she'll add to the block he/she is currently working on
- Since mining is a business, not a charity, the miner will add the transactions with the highest fee/byte of transaction data
- IF you use an (online) wallet that doesn't estimate the size correctly, or doesn't estimate the appropriate fee adequately, you can rest assured that your transaction will have to wait untill the other transactions that had a higher fee/byte of data were included into a block/dropped/...
I agree that it's not a funny thing to hear. I agree that it's real money we're talking about. I agree that some companies are not professional enough (not naming names here)... The fact remains that at this moment, i'm afraid that everything works as designed. Can you share your tx id? that way we can verify if you have the same problem as dozens of others?
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geomax (OP)
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February 22, 2017, 01:16:52 PM |
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I dont give f'''$$ k about mining blocks or any techinical Bs. I payed real money. Money does not come from the air. Its their problem to solve that. at least there should be option to take back transfer. you shut up with your story...i dont have time to listen this nice storiez. I trusted blockchain as tgey are big company. Someone nedd to give answers i put alot money into this my fcking money is stuckked. They are thiefes.
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February 22, 2017, 01:20:39 PM |
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I dont give f'''$$ k about mining blocks or any techinical Bs. I payed real money. Money does not come from the air. Its their problem to solve that. at least there should be option to take back transfer. you shut up with your story...i dont have time to listen this nice storiez. I trusted blockchain as tgey are big company. Someone nedd to give answers i put alot money into this my fcking money is stuckked. They are thiefes.
This community is not associated with blockchain.info. Some members (including me) sometimes try to help out and give advice for free, but i'm afraid your previous answer landed you a spot on my ignore list. Try to be civil, and maybe (just maybe) somebody else might give you some help other than "wait and hope for the best"
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February 22, 2017, 01:23:33 PM |
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I dont give f'''$$ k about mining blocks or any techinical Bs. I payed real money. Money does not come from the air. Its their problem to solve that. at least there should be option to take back transfer. you shut up with your story...i dont have time to listen this nice storiez. I trusted blockchain as tgey are big company. Someone nedd to give answers i put alot money into this my fcking money is stuckked. They are thiefes.
If you're willing to use bitcoin it's such technical details that you should really care about. There are a few wallets that are more easy to use in terms of taking care of fees but you'd have to give up on other features of bitcoin (such as freedom) if you were to use a completely user-friendly wallet that'd take care of fees every time on its own.
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February 22, 2017, 01:25:10 PM |
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I dont give f'''$$ k about mining blocks or any techinical Bs. I payed real money. Money does not come from the air. Its their problem to solve that. at least there should be option to take back transfer. you shut up with your story...i dont have time to listen this nice storiez. I trusted blockchain as tgey are big company. Someone nedd to give answers i put alot money into this my fcking money is stuckked. They are thiefes.
This guy thinks others will listen to his nonsense and offer some way to help. Oh the hilarity. Hey there, you, yes you. Nobody gives a shit about you too
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geomax (OP)
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February 22, 2017, 01:26:09 PM |
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Im sorry but i have really alot money in and stuckked. My busines reliang on bitcoins. thats it all this hyping up bitcoins and bs was just big scam right ?? Only thing im interested is who got my money ?? Is the biggest btc sellers imvolved in scam ?? How you can be civil in this world when things what supoosto be trusted they are not ?? Its chaos its anarchy not organised. Its bs. and what to do now ?? Just and watch my bitcoins dont move ? i told all my friends to get out of bitcoins now. Soon everybody will stop using bitcoins.
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February 22, 2017, 01:32:23 PM |
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Im sorry but i have really alot money in and stuckked. My busines reliang on bitcoins. thats it all this hyping up bitcoins and bs was just big scam right ?? Only thing im interested is who got my money ?? Is the biggest btc sellers imvolved in scam ?? How you can be civil in this world when things what supoosto be trusted they are not ?? Its chaos its anarchy not organised. Its bs. and what to do now ?? Just and watch my bitcoins dont move ? i told all my friends to get out of bitcoins now. Soon everybody will stop using bitcoins.
Thats somewhat of a start I guess, at least you're asking for help instead of calling the advice bs. You can now start by providing the tx id, which looks like this d61b0214c6dae2d32e648de6cdd49ce7f698385bd95421c5b9d2c550355654f0 Now, as for your 'money' , the transaction has most likely not been processed because you included a less-than acceptable fee. What you can now do is: 1) Simply wait for the transaction to drop from the network(would take 2-3 days I guess) 2) 'Accelerate' the transaction by pushing the tx back into the network. 3) Double-spend the bitcoins(quite technical). Oh and nobody will miss some tens of potential BTC users you may have deterred from using BTC.
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February 22, 2017, 01:40:12 PM |
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Double spend?? Thats grazy. wait 2-3 days ? Not fair. It shows 0/3 unconfirmed. eather way blockchain is scam only scams run like this.no matter how nice stories or exucuses. Why i have to struggle? I payed money real money to get bitcoins. my time and efforts count too. Im just victim of the blockchain scam. anyways i need to move my money what other options are ? perfect money ?? Webmoney ??
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February 22, 2017, 01:50:37 PM |
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Double spend?? Thats grazy. wait 2-3 days ? Not fair. It shows 0/3 unconfirmed. eather way blockchain is scam only scams run like this.no matter how nice stories or exucuses. Why i have to struggle? I payed money real money to get bitcoins. my time and efforts count too. Im just victim of the blockchain scam. anyways i need to move my money what other options are ? perfect money ?? Webmoney ??
Oh christ he's back to being crazy. Calm down here, your BTC is not going anywhere. Alright, now go through what I say calmly and reread if you don't understand Double spend?? Thats grazy.
Double-spend means , sending another transaction with acceptable fee higher than the unconfirmed one, if the latter is confirmed the previous tx will be rendered invalid. But considering how we're going I guess you can't do this even for your own money wait 2-3 days ? Not fair.
Oh excuse me, who was the one who sent a tx with less than acceptable fee? The answer is not me by the way It shows 0/3 unconfirmed.
Show the txid as I mentioned above eather way blockchain is scam
Blockchain is a unpopular choice for even web wallets, but its fine for newbies like you who are getting started with BTC. But no it is not a scam I payed money real money to get bitcoins. my time and efforts count too.
Time and effort which you clearly didn't spend understanding how BTC works or you would not be freaking out right now Im just victim of the blockchain scam.
You are not, you are just an unreasonable guy who doesn't listen to advice even when in trouble and someone who curses at people who try to help Now, if you want to understand more of the techincal stuff better, read the post by moccacaino tl;dr 0.5) Calm the f*ck down 1)Post tx id 2) People will suggest an appropriate solution
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geomax (OP)
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February 22, 2017, 01:56:28 PM |
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No i dont post. Tx i wait now if dont see results ill make youtube videos and everybody will know blockchain is thief. thats it.
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February 22, 2017, 01:57:39 PM |
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No i dont post. Tx i wait now if dont see results ill make youtube videos and everybody will know blockchain is thief. thats it.
Damn it, should've ignored this guy from the start. Good time wasted on writing helpful advice for an idiot
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February 22, 2017, 02:20:24 PM |
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Allright but idelogy is wrong why the blochain dont show warning to not expecting your money move instantly !! Why they show as they do insyant transers? Its lia !! Im organised honest and very dissiplined person...i like things with quality. if they not then no any exucuse not accepted. even uk faster payments move faster and instant. and at least someone gives answrs when any problems occuring. how you guys are so relaxed about it ?? Dont you expecting the quality ?? In fact now even they fix the problem they must have good excuse after. becouse i will not use them becouse not trusted. we alll know how important is speed and quality in business. anyways they are scam nothing dont change this fact !! So i wait i hope they fix but i will never use bitcoins again once one bad experince then its all over. I hope you undestood point i try to make here !! Thanks!
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First of all, if you are not going to accept the help that people try to provide to you out of the kindness of their hearts, then don't bother asking for help. Secondly, you chose a horrible wallet to use. Blockchain.info is a horrible web wallet (web wallets are horrible wallets in general). They put a maximum of 65 satoshis/byte for the transaction fee rate of any transaction made through them so basically any transactions made with their wallet will be delayed. Your transaction is almost definitely "stuck" because it has a low transaction fee. It may also have some other issues such as double spends, spending from another unconfirmed transaction, etc, but we can't know this and help you unless you post the txid. There is no security risk to posting the txid. Transactions are already all public and anyone can look up any transaction that they want and get the details of it. To have your transaction confirm, you have a few options here. You can wait and hope it confirms, wait for the transaction to be "forgotten" by the network, or ask a miner to confirm it for you. For the fourth option, you can contact the users Quickseller and macbook-air. You can also try using https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ to "accelerate" your transaction. Unfortunately because you use blockchain.info, you will not be able to attempt an RBF transaction. Lastly, if you are going to complain about blockchain.info, make sure you complain about blockchain.info, NOT the Bitcoin Blockchain. Blockchain.info is not the blockchain. It is a service. The blockchain is very different from blockchain.info and blockchain.info has absolutely zero control over the blockchain. Again, blockchain.info is a service, not the actual blockchain.
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February 22, 2017, 02:39:51 PM |
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Im sorry but i have really alot money in and stuckked. My busines reliang on bitcoins. thats it all this hyping up bitcoins and bs was just big scam right ?? Only thing im interested is who got my money ?? Is the biggest btc sellers imvolved in scam ?? How you can be civil in this world when things what supoosto be trusted they are not ?? Its chaos its anarchy not organised. Its bs. and what to do now ?? Just and watch my bitcoins dont move ? i told all my friends to get out of bitcoins now. Soon everybody will stop using bitcoins.
Blockchain.info, I assume, has no fault on your situation, as of now there are something like 80,000 transactions stuck, if you want yours to go first you need to outbid everyone in the fee auction and that sucks long time. You should stay away from bitcoin as it is not very practical or reliable right, but check out other coins, at least your transactions will be confirmed quickly.
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February 22, 2017, 03:11:20 PM |
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Im sorry but i have really alot money in and stuckked. My busines reliang on bitcoins. thats it all this hyping up bitcoins and bs was just big scam right ?? Only thing im interested is who got my money ?? Is the biggest btc sellers imvolved in scam ?? How you can be civil in this world when things what supoosto be trusted they are not ?? Its chaos its anarchy not organised. Its bs. and what to do now ?? Just and watch my bitcoins dont move ? i told all my friends to get out of bitcoins now. Soon everybody will stop using bitcoins.
Blockchain.info, I assume, has no fault on your situation, as of now there are something like 80,000 transactions stuck, if you want yours to go first you need to outbid everyone in the fee auction and that sucks long time. You should stay away from bitcoin as it is not very practical or reliable right, but check out other coins, at least your transactions will be confirmed quickly. thanls for nice answer. What u suggest ? Onecoin ? Maybe perfect money payerr ? Or wich will be nice one to use it ?
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Im sorry but i have really alot money in and stuckked. My busines reliang on bitcoins. thats it all this hyping up bitcoins and bs was just big scam right ?? Only thing im interested is who got my money ?? Is the biggest btc sellers imvolved in scam ?? How you can be civil in this world when things what supoosto be trusted they are not ?? Its chaos its anarchy not organised. Its bs. and what to do now ?? Just and watch my bitcoins dont move ? i told all my friends to get out of bitcoins now. Soon everybody will stop using bitcoins.
Blockchain.info, I assume, has no fault on your situation, as of now there are something like 80,000 transactions stuck, if you want yours to go first you need to outbid everyone in the fee auction and that sucks long time. You should stay away from bitcoin as it is not very practical or reliable right, but check out other coins, at least your transactions will be confirmed quickly. thanls for nice answer. What u suggest ? Onecoin ? Maybe perfect money payerr ? Or wich will be nice one to use it ? Onecoin is a scam, Check litecoin, it is a bitcoin clone with some minor changes, price is quite stable and it's widely used and supported.
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February 22, 2017, 03:24:31 PM |
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Well troll'd, OP.
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February 22, 2017, 03:55:35 PM |
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Ok enough about this coins. i start using only wallets. Purses. i heared perfect money is really good and stable. I have no trust for coins. reason becouse the price is big speculation. i stay for just wallets wich dealing with real currency. Not some fiction. i got my lesson
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February 22, 2017, 04:25:45 PM |
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reason becouse the price is big speculation.
The price of all currencies related to others is varied - some even have huge crashes in value, such as the Venezuelan bolivar or Zimbabwean dollar. If you're referring to the price of transaction, this is paying for the decentralised network. Verifying these transactions is a business because it is in the private sector - the difference is that when using fiat currency, you're paying through tax instead. If it takes a long time to verify, it's because Blockchain sets the transaction fee too low for your transaction to be verified quickly by miners - you just need to change the transaction fee so that miners prioritise your transaction.i stay for just wallets wich dealing with real currency. Not some fiction. i got my lesson
It's a "real currency" if it's a means of exchange holding value, which it is. The value is created by the people who use the currency, but once again this applies to any currency - and it's not like you don't view your bank account as fake just because it's online.
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