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February 25, 2017, 01:13:47 AM
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Concept is good but it looks like you need some correction on design.
I think house edge is 5%  Shocked Which is pretty high. It seems you have already got few active players. Idea of lottery also sound interesting. Good luck, i will try your site soon.

I hope you'll enjoy Smiley House edge at freebitco.in is also 5% Smiley I am planning to lower the commission rate in the future.

Lower it now, to 1% or lower. You don't need a high house edge since it's a PvP game, and you don't risk anything. Right now, it's better to play dice or a RPS dice skin with a lower house edge right now, if people want a better chance at making a profit.

Currently I'm working on provably fair system but in a system where random numbers are not generated it seems quite difficult to achieve. I will add it to the site as soon as I solve the problem. If you have trust issues, you can play games created by others for the time being Smiley A page you can play against the computer with betting will also be added in the near future. Tournament sounds interesting, I will also think about this.

This requires both players to be online the entire time, but you could have the client send a hash of the outcome to the website when they play a match.

Example: Player starts a game, and sends the string below as a hash to the server
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rock|randomstringbruteforceproof102iskdhkfhxkjhskzdkdjhsjkdhk123

Player challenges him, and sends a similar string to the site. The site than sends both strings to the client, where it is recorded client side for future verification. Now that both parties have the hash, they each give up the unhashed string which is verified by the site that it is the correct string before awarding the winner. Not sending the string within X time, giving a wrong string or disconnecting would cause you to lose.

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February 25, 2017, 07:39:22 PM
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Concept is good but it looks like you need some correction on design.
I think house edge is 5%  Shocked Which is pretty high. It seems you have already got few active players. Idea of lottery also sound interesting. Good luck, i will try your site soon.

I hope you'll enjoy Smiley House edge at freebitco.in is also 5% Smiley I am planning to lower the commission rate in the future.

Lower it now, to 1% or lower. You don't need a high house edge since it's a PvP game, and you don't risk anything. Right now, it's better to play dice or a RPS dice skin with a lower house edge right now, if people want a better chance at making a profit.

Currently I'm working on provably fair system but in a system where random numbers are not generated it seems quite difficult to achieve. I will add it to the site as soon as I solve the problem. If you have trust issues, you can play games created by others for the time being Smiley A page you can play against the computer with betting will also be added in the near future. Tournament sounds interesting, I will also think about this.

This requires both players to be online the entire time, but you could have the client send a hash of the outcome to the website when they play a match.

Example: Player starts a game, and sends the string below as a hash to the server
Code:
rock|randomstringbruteforceproof102iskdhkfhxkjhskzdkdjhsjkdhk123

Player challenges him, and sends a similar string to the site. The site than sends both strings to the client, where it is recorded client side for future verification. Now that both parties have the hash, they each give up the unhashed string which is verified by the site that it is the correct string before awarding the winner. Not sending the string within X time, giving a wrong string or disconnecting would cause you to lose.

Thanks for suggestion Smiley I am trying to solve the problem without changing the concept. I will probably give the right to change the choice of the person who creates the game after player 2 plays. I do not want the game to be real-time.

Btw, now you can play by betting against the computer! Smiley And It's provably fair. Also, house edge is 1%. The bet amount has been kept fixed for now (5000 satoshi). I will also allow you to enter your own bet amount in the future. Click here to check it. Your ideas and suggestions are always welcome Smiley

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February 25, 2017, 08:51:54 PM
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This games its very cool, never bored to play this game even against computer but you have high house edge, I guess will try it when you has change to 1% house edge. like you said in the first page Wink

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February 25, 2017, 09:25:40 PM
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This games its very cool, never bored to play this game even against computer but you have high house edge, I guess will try it when you has change to 1% house edge. like you said in the first page Wink

Thanks for comment. Smiley House edge against computer is already 1% Smiley I will change it soon for pvp too.

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February 25, 2017, 10:02:25 PM
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there is another site implementing this type of game action-gamble i believe, so if you need to get succeded you need to make things dfferents that will be attractive for users, something for which the users will go to your site and not with competence
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February 26, 2017, 11:13:55 AM
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there is another site implementing this type of game action-gamble i believe, so if you need to get succeded you need to make things dfferents that will be attractive for users, something for which the users will go to your site and not with competence

Thanks for suggestion Smiley I am constantly improving the site and trying to be different from the others. Can you send link to the site you mentioned?

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February 27, 2017, 12:11:29 AM
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Coin flip has been added Smiley You can try it here. It's provably fair too. House edge is 1%. The bet amount has been kept fixed for now (1000 satoshi). I will allow you to enter your own bet amount in the future.

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February 27, 2017, 11:46:43 AM
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It was good to see the admin of the site being active in the forum, and trying to improve the site by considering the feedback of the players that have given some nice suggestion, maybe admin could do some promotion or giveaways for a start to increase traffic to the site and most importantly to attract players to hang out at the site more often.

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February 27, 2017, 11:54:24 AM
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This games its very cool, never bored to play this game even against computer but you have high house edge, I guess will try it when you has change to 1% house edge. like you said in the first page Wink

Nope, this game has huge house edge because the probability to win this is much more easier than dice. And as i can see here, this game has only 9 possibility 3 win 3 draw and 3 lose. To win this game you should have around 30% chance, that is why OP makes huge house edge to make sure than they have better chance to win because you play on house not other players
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February 27, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
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Interesting game idea. I think plinko and dice would still be more fun.

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February 27, 2017, 07:22:55 PM
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It was good to see the admin of the site being active in the forum, and trying to improve the site by considering the feedback of the players that have given some nice suggestion, maybe admin could do some promotion or giveaways for a start to increase traffic to the site and most importantly to attract players to hang out at the site more often.

Thank you Smiley There is already facebook bonus but I also think that I should give another bonus. Any suggestions about it?

This games its very cool, never bored to play this game even against computer but you have high house edge, I guess will try it when you has change to 1% house edge. like you said in the first page Wink

Nope, this game has huge house edge because the probability to win this is much more easier than dice. And as i can see here, this game has only 9 possibility 3 win 3 draw and 3 lose. To win this game you should have around 30% chance, that is why OP makes huge house edge to make sure than they have better chance to win because you play on house not other players

Thanks for comment Smiley

Interesting game idea. I think plinko and dice would still be more fun.

Thanks for comment Smiley After a few hours a new game mode will be added Smiley



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February 27, 2017, 09:37:27 PM
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Minesweeper has been added Smiley It's provably fair too.  The bet amount has been kept fixed for now (10000 satoshi).  You can try it here.

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Leaderboard added for new game modes Smiley

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March 01, 2017, 12:20:57 PM
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I will probably give the right to change the choice of the person who creates the game after player 2 plays. I do not want the game to be real-time.



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please be so kind and explain what this means?

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I will probably give the right to change the choice of the person who creates the game after player 2 plays. I do not want the game to be real-time.



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When playing with other players (PvP), game cannot be provably fair because it's not played in real time. Thus I cannot generate hash for provably fairness before the game is played. For these reasons people do not want to prefer PvP mode. To solve this problem, I will give the game creator an option. During game creation, you can say that if you want to change your choice after the second player has played your game. After the 2nd player plays the game, you can change the choice you selected within 12 hours if this option is selected. Also, you will be able to see the choice of the player as hashed as in other games (minesweeper, coin flip). What do you think about this? Is there any other solution suggestion apart from being real-time Smiley

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I will probably give the right to change the choice of the person who creates the game after player 2 plays. I do not want the game to be real-time.



hi

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When playing with other players (PvP), game cannot be provably fair because it's not played in real time. Thus I cannot generate hash for provably fairness before the game is played. For these reasons people do not want to prefer PvP mode. To solve this problem, I will give the game creator an option. During game creation, you can say that if you want to change your choice after the second player has played your game. After the 2nd player plays the game, you can change the choice you selected within 12 hours if this option is selected. Also, you will be able to see the choice of the player as hashed as in other games (minesweeper, coin flip). What do you think about this? Is there any other solution suggestion apart from being real-time Smiley

thx for explaining. I am afraid I cant help you with provably fair. but 12 hours sound a lot for a player who is looking for a fast decision

why woudnt it work in real time to give the game creator as soon a player puts his coins against him to change his first choice? is there a sound that the game creator will be informed when a challenger puts his coins against him?

and I fully agree that those games need to be 100% provably fair

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March 04, 2017, 06:08:23 PM
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thx for explaining. I am afraid I cant help you with provably fair. but 12 hours sound a lot for a player who is looking for a fast decision

why woudnt it work in real time to give the game creator as soon a player puts his coins against him to change his first choice? is there a sound that the game creator will be informed when a challenger puts his coins against him?

and I fully agree that those games need to be 100% provably fair

good luck

Thanks for reply Smiley I will also consider this option.

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Faucet leaderboard has been added  Smiley

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a pve rock paper scissors game with a huge house age is doomed,IMHO
there are so many RPS games nowadays and all of them are not poular,no idea why
maybe because the dice dominating bitcoin gaming industry due to their simplicity and being fast
anyway,think you should redisign yuour game to be a pvp game with a very low house edge,but again
the question of provably fair,how do I know my opponent is a real player and not a house bot that sees what my bet is?

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March 15, 2017, 07:46:45 PM
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a pve rock paper scissors game with a huge house age is doomed,IMHO
there are so many RPS games nowadays and all of them are not poular,no idea why
maybe because the dice dominating bitcoin gaming industry due to their simplicity and being fast
anyway,think you should redisign yuour game to be a pvp game with a very low house edge,but again
the question of provably fair,how do I know my opponent is a real player and not a house bot that sees what my bet is?


Thanks for suggestions Smiley Actually, house edge is 1% atm (PVE). I'm still working on provably fairness for PvP.

Dice has been added Smiley You can try it now. Maximum bet will be increased soon.
https://www.bitcoinrockpaperscissors.com/dice.php

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