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chronicsky
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February 24, 2017, 10:26:20 AM |
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it sucks how many coins are stolen by postal services and that is when they dont know much of bitcoin yet, maybe some do..
It's best to not mention anything related to bitcoin on package
Hope you find it
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AT101ET
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February 24, 2017, 11:10:43 AM |
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it sucks how many coins are stolen by postal services and that is when they dont know much of bitcoin yet, maybe some do..
It's best to not mention anything related to bitcoin on package
Hope you find it
I don't think that the postal service workers are targeting these packages because they contain physical Bitcoins. Sometimes you can just feel that the item being sent is a coin and sometimes workers are tempted into thinking that they're rare and collectible coins that can be sold for a quick profit. To be honest, I don't think they know what the coins are until they search for them online at which point they don't realise their mistake. Given that the coins have public addresses and first keys it would make flipping them more difficult. The best way to avoid this happening is by disguising what you're sending. For example, put coins in between card to prevent the coin shape protruding through the envelope. Alternatively, use thicker and padded packaging materials etc.
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chronicsky
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February 24, 2017, 11:17:42 AM |
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it sucks how many coins are stolen by postal services and that is when they dont know much of bitcoin yet, maybe some do..
It's best to not mention anything related to bitcoin on package
Hope you find it
I don't think that the postal service workers are targeting these packages because they contain physical Bitcoins. Sometimes you can just feel that the item being sent is a coin and sometimes workers are tempted into thinking that they're rare and collectible coins that can be sold for a quick profit. To be honest, I don't think they know what the coins are until they search for them online at which point they don't realise their mistake. Given that the coins have public addresses and first keys it would make flipping them more difficult. The best way to avoid this happening is by disguising what you're sending. For example, put coins in between card to prevent the coin shape protruding through the envelope. Alternatively, use thicker and padded packaging materials etc. that sounds good so keeping them hidden should do the trick i thought it had something to do with bitcoin
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NattyLiteCoin
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February 24, 2017, 11:25:33 AM |
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You guys are freaking the fuck out of me. I have thousand of dollars in Bitcoin and collectibles that have been sitting static at the post with registered mail for a week. I guess it's good that it's insured, but I'm doubt that claim is going to go smooth.
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BitcoinPenny
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February 24, 2017, 11:43:00 AM |
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You guys are freaking the fuck out of me. I have thousand of dollars in Bitcoin and collectibles that have been sitting static at the post with registered mail for a week. I guess it's good that it's insured, but I'm doubt that claim is going to go smooth.
It's most likely that the opened envelopes from the post office with "stolen" coins that we've been reading about lately were not opened by people, but were torn open by the automatic letter-feeding machines. Those standard business envelopes are pretty weak and not designed to hold anything more than a card or letter -- something flat and thin which would easily pass thru an automatic letter-feeding machine. Anything bulkier inside -- like a coin in an airtite capsule -- would cause problems for the automatic feeder, and the envelope would likely rip open upon the slightest snag. (Those letters whiz by rather quickly, so tearing wouldn't require much effort, just a quick snag and it's done for.) The postal employees should know better, and they should advise the sender to use a larger, sturdier envelope, like the standard yellow, 7x4" Kraft bubble mailer. Regardless, the sender should know better and spend a few more cents on upgraded envelopes. You can buy them in large bulk on Amazon for pennies per envelope. So you can probably relax and breathe easy. If your static packages at the PO are not standard business envelopes, then you're fine as wine. Regards, Chris
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biggzi
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February 24, 2017, 12:05:48 PM |
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Damn not another one! Definitely will never skip on insurance and tacking.
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Blaater
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February 24, 2017, 12:10:02 PM |
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Damn not another one! Definitely will never skip on insurance and tacking.
I think this is rule #1. I had it last week where a slab arrived broken because an envelope was used for a $500 coin in unregistered mail. I was lucky the coin arrived but please let us all use tracked+insured mail so this can never happen again. Too many examples already of people losing coins and broken items, and claiming anything at the postal company is horrible, and futile if it was sent non-insured.
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NattyLiteCoin
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February 24, 2017, 12:20:13 PM |
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It's wrapped like classified media would be. If some one were to steal it, they would have to leave the premisis and gnaw at it for about 15 minutes.
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bestcoin_59 (OP)
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February 24, 2017, 01:16:05 PM |
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Damn not another one! Definitely will never skip on insurance and tacking.
The coin has been sent as a tracking letter that is with a follow up service. The last event recorded was the sorting center on the 02/06...It is not Blazed fault, it is without doubt the Post Office fault. However, i don't know if the post office lost it or steal it. I'll probably never know
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February 25, 2017, 05:41:15 AM |
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It's wrapped like classified media would be. If some one were to steal it, they would have to leave the premisis and gnaw at it for about 15 minutes.
In the 3.5 years of me using registered mail shipping, I have yet to lose a single package. The worst case I've had is the person didn't pick up the package after like 2-3 weeks and customs shipped it back to me and it eventually got back to me untampered. To date, registered mail has been quite safe for me personally.
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February 25, 2017, 09:09:22 AM |
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Damn not another one! Definitely will never skip on insurance and tacking.
The coin has been sent as a tracking letter that is with a follow up service. The last event recorded was the sorting center on the 02/06...It is not Blazed fault, it is without doubt the Post Office fault. However, i don't know if the post office lost it or steal it. I'll probably never know Which country is it going to? I once shipped a coin to Spain and it took about 3 weeks to make it's way through their customs. When you raise a report that the post is missing, they should in theory, go to where it was lost and do a proper search for it. Unfortunately they're more likely to just pay a claim and say they looked for it. I try to disguise the coins in a square piece of cardboard (with bubble wrap padding) and try to stop them from rattling. Lots of tape on weak spots like corners helps too, but make sure it is flat and no tape can snag in the machinery.
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bestcoin_59 (OP)
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February 25, 2017, 05:22:09 PM |
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Which country is it going to? I once shipped a coin to Spain and it took about 3 weeks to make it's way through their customs. When you raise a report that the post is missing, they should in theory, go to where it was lost and do a proper search for it. Unfortunately they're more likely to just pay a claim and say they looked for it. I try to disguise the coins in a square piece of cardboard (with bubble wrap padding) and try to stop them from rattling. Lots of tape on weak spots like corners helps too, but make sure it is flat and no tape can snag in the machinery.
Hello Fortify, I live in France. I already wrote two letters of complaint. One locally for the chief working at the sorting center, and the other for P. Wahl the CEO of La Poste in Paris. Here is the tracking # LZ630940207US Jeff.
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bestcoin_59 (OP)
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February 25, 2017, 06:36:27 PM |
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According to this tracking, they tried to deliver to you on February 6th??
I don't think so At least it seems that the package made it to your country
Yes probably. Have to gone to local post office in person?
Many time, and also to surrounding PO. In fact, they gave me a much more accurate tracking. It turns out that the coin disappear at the sorting center... http://imgur.com/a/0BAieFor those who don't speak french, the last event says: delayed motive La Poste. PDC1: Plateforme de distribution du courrier=sorting center. Also Seclin is a town located 6 km away from me. Thanks for your support. Jeff
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February 25, 2017, 07:15:57 PM |
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idk if you have craiglist and pawnshops in your area but it may be worth checking out just incase they try flipping it
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February 25, 2017, 10:05:49 PM |
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I don't think that the postal service workers are targeting these packages because they contain physical Bitcoins. Sometimes you can just feel that the item being sent is a coin and sometimes workers are tempted into thinking that they're rare and collectible coins that can be sold for a quick profit. To be honest, I don't think they know what the coins are until they search for them online at which point they don't realise their mistake. Given that the coins have public addresses and first keys it would make flipping them more difficult.
the coin was funded, so it could easily be cracked open for the 0.25BTC without even selling the coin I had a package containing an entire roll of casascius coins (directly from mike) cut opened by border postal agents, then taped shut again. At the time it was only worth ~$250
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Gatorelf
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February 26, 2017, 12:17:04 AM |
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I will keep an eye out too on ebay etc
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bestcoin_59 (OP)
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February 26, 2017, 07:50:58 AM |
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the coin was funded, so it could easily be cracked open for the 0.25BTC without even selling the coin
Of course, but up to now it is not the case. As someone already pointed out, i'm not sure the thief is familiar with physical bitcoins. In my opinion he (she?) might have thought that the coin is made of solid gold.
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February 26, 2017, 07:54:46 AM Last edit: March 01, 2017, 09:48:37 AM by bestcoin_59 |
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I will keep an eye out too on ebay etc
Thanks. Just wondering, does Ebay provide a feature based on keywords to be warned automatically?
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bestcoin_59 (OP)
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February 26, 2017, 08:00:22 AM |
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idk if you have craiglist and pawnshops in your area but it may be worth checking out just incase they try flipping it
We don't have craiglist, but instead, leboncoin: https://www.leboncoin.fr/That beeing said, even if i come across the coin, what can/should i do
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