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February 24, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
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As per ETFdailynews[1], there are only 35% chances of U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission approving WINKLEVOSS BITCOIN TRUST ETF.  Now given situation many are thinking and pumping their money in purchase may find it difficult. Would it trigger bear phase in market.

This is not the first time when ETF has declined bitcoin. This is third time ETF will consider bitcoin.  Bettor have put only 35% money on approval by ETF

[1] http://etfdailynews.com/2017/02/21/odds-say-the-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-has-just-a-36-chance-of-approval/
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February 24, 2017, 09:05:27 PM
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I don't think Bitcoin crashes if the EFT will not be approved because there is no "new money" (meaning money from outside of the cryptocurrency community) in BTC yet.
Therefore it might lower the price slightly but no crash like on January the 5th.
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February 24, 2017, 11:42:00 PM
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Well at this point I'm more or less expecting a denial of the ETF based on the pure fact of risk for investors based on bitcoins short history. I don't think the ETF denial OR approval will really do much to the price it will just make the volume of trading higher than it is at the moment, more people selling and more people buying will just cause the price to stay where it is.

So, price will stick where it is which will be better for the health of bitcoins growth and adoption.

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February 25, 2017, 01:49:09 AM
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It won't be denied.
They have already approved it and that is why the price is going up.
It was all talks with approval team and those Wiklevoss's so to not have a major failure on their hands that could bring major condequences to the American economy.
It is all behind the doors talk but there was a leaked im about it. Just check wall observer thread to see it.
There are too many pages there to go thru to try and find to link to it.
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February 25, 2017, 04:12:12 AM
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It won't be denied.
They have already approved it and that is why the price is going up.

You can give me the reliable source about it, I didn't hear IF SEC already approved bitcoin. This time a lot of the investors are buying the rumour about the SEC approval and it seems like the final hype is on 10 march.

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February 25, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
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it case it was denied i am sure there will be some dumps, because it has always been like this. we see a small news and the manipulators start their dump to create panic and buy back cheaper coins.

and ETF denial is the best opportunity, and if i can sell in the first couple of minutes then i will sell and if not i will hold because price will jump back up after that and there is no way to come back from selling cheap and left with a higher price to buy back.

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February 25, 2017, 04:28:08 AM
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Nothing, a minor dip if anything.

The ETF isn't live, therefore it has not significantly impacted the market. There's some anticipation priced in right now but it's not significant.

If the ETF gets denied, take it as a buying opportunity. Bitcoin on discount!
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February 25, 2017, 04:34:57 AM
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I guess the price will  go lower the first day when it's already announce that it's denied .but the hype happened really help the price now,although we are not sure  until when but we are waiting for good news.
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February 25, 2017, 04:40:10 AM
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Lol these bullshit numbers of 26% 35% 25% and whatever else are hilarious. They're based on ... what? Random statistics that may not be relevant?

The actual affect if it's declined would be a sharp decline, a correction and we'll stay around the $1000 mark.
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February 25, 2017, 06:04:52 AM
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Lol these bullshit numbers of 26% 35% 25% and whatever else are hilarious. They're based on ... what? Random statistics that may not be relevant?

The actual affect if it's declined would be a sharp decline, a correction and we'll stay around the $1000 mark.

this is what I am thinking too, since the current increase is all about the hype of the upcoming ETF.  Actually, there is no reason for BTC to go up in price since there had been several problem with the transaction confirmation and there is nothing to announce as development of Bitcoin yet.  So if ever the ETF is rejected, the next thing that possibly can happen is the decline of Bitcoin price.
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February 25, 2017, 07:33:37 AM
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Lol these bullshit numbers of 26% 35% 25% and whatever else are hilarious. They're based on ... what? Random statistics that may not be relevant?

The actual affect if it's declined would be a sharp decline, a correction and we'll stay around the $1000 mark.

this is what I am thinking too, since the current increase is all about the hype of the upcoming ETF.  Actually, there is no reason for BTC to go up in price since there had been several problem with the transaction confirmation and there is nothing to announce as development of Bitcoin yet.  So if ever the ETF is rejected, the next thing that possibly can happen is the decline of Bitcoin price.

Well it's inevitable, since bitcoin price surge in the past weeks up to now is all about ETF hype. It will be the deciding factor whether the price of bitcoin will continue to go up or down.
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February 25, 2017, 07:56:07 AM
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Lol these bullshit numbers of 26% 35% 25% and whatever else are hilarious. They're based on ... what? Random statistics that may not be relevant?
The actual affect if it's declined would be a sharp decline, a correction and we'll stay around the $1000 mark.

They are estimates. Some analysts also estimate the impact that the ETF approval would have on the price and how much of it is factored in the price right now. Then you can back calculate the market's expectation of probability of ETF approval.
$1000 is a very good price, if the ETF is not approved. I feel it might drop a bit more than that.
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February 25, 2017, 09:30:38 AM
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This hype is all about ETF approval.  If ever the ETF is denied, the bitcoin bull charge will become Bull trap.  A sharp decrease in price will be observed.  This is no news.  History had shown that whenever there is a negative news about BTC, price will decline and this ETF if denied is certainly fall under Bad News for Bitcoin Speculators.
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February 25, 2017, 10:57:13 AM
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As per ETFdailynews[1], there are only 35% chances of U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission approving WINKLEVOSS BITCOIN TRUST ETF.  Now given situation many are thinking and pumping their money in purchase may find it difficult. Would it trigger bear phase in market.

This is not the first time when ETF has declined bitcoin. This is third time ETF will consider bitcoin.  Bettor have put only 35% money on approval by ETF

[1] http://etfdailynews.com/2017/02/21/odds-say-the-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-has-just-a-36-chance-of-approval/


If Bitcoin survived the previous denials like you're saying then there's no cause for alarm if it doesn't get approved this time around as it wouldn't make any difference and there wouldn't be any Bitcoin crash.
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February 25, 2017, 11:02:12 AM
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If etf deny then we will see the price drop down or maybe stuck for a moment, but in the end bitcoin will rise again, so actually the denial only affect the bitcoin for short period of time, but i still hope that it will be approved, it will bring good impact in bitcoin, if its being approved
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February 25, 2017, 11:19:28 AM
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I hope only ETF and SEC can aprove bitcoin
and china regulation china autorized , can good result about investigation china exchanger, if two not good result i think is big affect bitcoin price can crash and big dump and big down price
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February 25, 2017, 11:47:18 AM
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It won't be denied.
They have already approved it and that is why the price is going up.
It was all talks with approval team and those Wiklevoss's so to not have a major failure on their hands that could bring major condequences to the American economy.
It is all behind the doors talk but there was a leaked im about it. Just check wall observer thread to see it.
There are too many pages there to go thru to try and find to link to it.
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Believing in potentially leaked information is not wise, it could be just another rumor created to boost bitcoin's price.
Until ETF approval will be announced publicly then it is better not to keep your hopes high or you can burn.

BTW Where is that 'wall observer thread' you are talking about? I can't find it.
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February 25, 2017, 12:04:32 PM
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A lot of people right now believe that the current price increase is because of the ETF, If that that claim comes out to be correct then we shouldn't expect anything but a huge dump after the ETF disapproval and without forgetting that the Chinese exchange will open withdrawals once again. I don't think we should run to conclusions yet though, even If our chances are low.
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February 25, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
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For me there ain't that big of an effect that will happen if ETF was denied. The current pump might not be because of it since many of the investors would be so smart as to stay away to bitcoin since they don't trust it that much unless ETF will be approved so all in all there will be no dumps that will occur after ETF has been denied if there is well it will not be because of that but because of the opening of Chinese exchanges once more.
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February 25, 2017, 01:38:20 PM
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I hope only ETF and SEC can aprove bitcoin
and china regulation china autorized , can good result about investigation china exchanger, if two not good result i think is big affect bitcoin price can crash and big dump and big down price
Your words are  make a non sense for me, Or you must read about the definition of ETF and SEC. It seems like you are lack of knowledge about it. The price of bitcoin will around $1000 and it will never get dump to the $900 and etc.

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