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February 24, 2017, 10:56:12 PM
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There where some trouble with me and Gunthar but its fixed now! Closed


Ps how to lock this?

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February 24, 2017, 11:18:31 PM
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What thread did he delete your posts from?

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February 25, 2017, 02:13:40 AM
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What thread did he delete your posts from?

Probably Gunthar's Gunbot thread, seeing that the conversation was about a bot.
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February 25, 2017, 04:03:05 AM
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Ombc, what exactly is your problem with Gunthar? Looks like you wanted to get the bot for free?

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February 25, 2017, 08:12:41 AM
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He didn't do anything wrong in this case. In addition to that, you've left him with a false trust rating.

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February 25, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
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Your post was deleted because i dont feel comfy with you posting my real name/last name from a private conversation coming from an unsolicited PM you sent on my phone and posting it on a public forum.
I'm asking you to delete that doxing picture soon thank you. You can do the same thing, reporting here or wherever you want any complain about me or others, without doxing please.

Thank you for your understanding.
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February 25, 2017, 09:17:42 AM
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Your post was deleted because i dont feel comfy with you posting my real name/last name
If "Gunthar DeNaro" is your IRL name, then your real name is posted in your profile, and as such is public information.

I am not quite sure I would call this doxing....

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February 25, 2017, 09:26:53 AM
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Your post was deleted because i dont feel comfy with you posting my real name/last name
If "Gunthar DeNaro" is your IRL name, then your real name is posted in your profile, and as such is public information.

I am not quite sure I would call this doxing....

Fair enough. Still feeling not good with someone posting (unsolicited) PMs. They can have same result and whine about me and my behaviour without posting my telegram screenshots i guess? Dunno..
Thanks for the hint, i prolly need some more coffee this morning.

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February 25, 2017, 11:02:45 AM
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Your post was deleted because i dont feel comfy with you posting my real name/last name
If "Gunthar DeNaro" is your IRL name, then your real name is posted in your profile, and as such is public information.

I am not quite sure I would call this doxing....

Fair enough. Still feeling not good with someone posting (unsolicited) PMs. They can have same result and whine about me and my behaviour without posting my telegram screenshots i guess? Dunno..
Thanks for the hint, i prolly need some more coffee this morning.


Why did u also delete the other post from me where no screenshot from your name was in?
"i got the hint already clf99 :p but he is still so mad"

From the screenshot sorry that you name was in there it was late...

Ombc, what exactly is your problem with Gunthar? Looks like you wanted to get the bot for free?


i was just asking him if it was possible to get an free trail or that it maybe was possible to pay 10 euro for 1 week
then he sayed that im trolling why whould i troll? im still not sure why i was trolling

he also send me negative trust this is what he send to me

in less than 40 seconds he was able to get on my nerves by:
1.- breaking in a closed group on Telegram "answer" No bro its just an open link :/
2.- asking for a trial and once kindly denied insisting offering me 10 dollars (laffs) with the probably purpose to just leak my gunbot code. "answer" why would i leak the code if you still need licenses?
3.- send unsolicited private messages insisting to buy my bot and once denied because a clear childish attitude from him, started to troll "answer" i've still not trolled you
4.- publicly posting private messages on the public forum with my dox on Telegram clrearly breaking privacy rules "answer" Well i already sayed sorry but quickseller also sayed that it was already in your bitcointalk profile and thats public information
5.- posting a fake neg rep without realizing he needs probably to try meet me when he has grown up enough to become a kind and polite person. "answer" Well its not fake you just make me nerves too and thats why i posted bad reputation

I feel good to have NOT sold my software to this guy. "answer" i feel that he is trolling me.

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February 25, 2017, 11:16:52 AM
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Ok got some more coffee. Despite i think this matter is really of no use and no contribution to this forum, i guess it is courtesy to answer open threads like this, so let's do it:

Facts:

-. It is stated many times in my gunbot thread there are no trial versions of my bot. There is tho, a 15 days money back guarantee (probably i'm the only one doing that) which users can handle directly with me or using an escrow (bitify included). References:
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1715214.msg17924187#msg17924187
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1715214.msg17913468#msg17913468
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1715214.msg17859692#msg17859692

-. Op came on telegram and instead of looking for my contact, he joined the Owners group without being invited.
-. Op then sent me a message asking for a trial license which i kindly refused.
-. Op at that point started to make low level offers, at first offering me 10 dollars and still being refused he started to try call me "scammer" and tried to make me appear like
   someone that would steal him 100 dollars etc etc. Complete logs:

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UNDOXED USER: Your the maker of gunbot right?
Gunthar:yes sir
UNDOXED USER:Awesome Maybe is it possible to get the bot for 1 week train? Trail
Gunthar:no sir sorry
UNDOXED USER: Aaawh And 1 month for 10 dollar?
Gunthar: no sir lol
UNDOXED USER: Why?
Gunthar: unfortunately due to somw idiots i am not going to give out other trial licenses you prolly did read it on the thread already
UNDOXED USER: What? Link?
Gunthar: that there are not trial licenses anymorer
UNDOXED USER: Because?
Gunthar: because i say so
UNDOXED USER: :unamused: Well why you want 100 dollar?

I cant stop to laff at this last sentence of him indeed, but it got me pretty irritate soon: Who wants 100 dollars from you man?

At this point i removed him for bot owners group and he continued his trolling:

Code:
UNDOXED USER: Wut why i am remover? Removed? *
Gunthar: because you trolling and because that's the owner group i dunno who invited you but i would like to keep the group restricetd to owners onlyù
UNDOXED USER: Wow sorry why im trolling? Wut
Gunthar: UNDOXED USER: Well why you want 100 dollar?
this aint trolling?
UNDOXED USER: Well i just wanna try it before my 100 dollar turn in a scam

That's why you can use an escrow (even bitify)
At this point i was already irritated enough and he almost got me in the trap.

Code:
UNDOXED USER: Yes and if I pay 100$
Gunthar: i will not give you a license neither if you pay 100 dollars
UNDOXED USER: Wut? So if I pay you 100 dollar you gives me no license?

Definitely not the level of fairness i'm used, i do prefere to not deal with such kind of people (wannabe customers), so i asked him to leave:

Code:
Gunthar: stop trolling last warn
UNDOXED USER: Wtf is this bro
Gunthar: your attitude man stop it

So he posted the screenshot on my thread of this convo or the part of it that would try to make me appear an angry bird.

Oh well...i confirm i am not going to deal with such pain-in-the-ass people in my life (i'm interested to know who would tho...will read on this thread).

Also: looking his attitude and where he come from i can see a pattern (which i will not disclose or i would dox a bunch of guys) that came to me to get a trial license a while ago, then they nulled my bot and started to sell it on a darknet russian group. Some of them were so smart to buy the bot (since at a certain point i stopped to give trials), get the hacking method and then come back claiming the 15 days money back guarantee...
Since i'm an honest person and anyone knowing me would vouch this, i refunded them all and fucked them off one by one: i have no time for such kiddos and i do prefere to stay focused on my serious customers and serious development of my software.


What to say OP: wish you the best (without GUNBOT tho).

~Gun

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February 25, 2017, 11:34:07 AM
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Well Finally i understand what is wrong here you think im a russian? and an hacker because i was in your group?
Anyway i now understand why you dont give trails but why didnt you told me this early?

Im from the netherlands and 15 years old
i dont even know how to get on darknet and russia is like chineese for me Tongue
why i wanted it for a 10 dollar trail is im not having alot of money probly because im 15
Also im still not sure how an Escrow works

im curious wich pattern you are thinking of

~Ombc

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February 25, 2017, 11:42:19 AM
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Well Finally i understand what is wrong here you think im a russian? and an hacker because i was in your group?
Anyway i now understand why you dont give trails but why didnt you told me this early?

Im from the netherlands and 15 years old
i dont even know how to get on darknet and russia is like chineese for me Tongue
why i wanted it for a 10 dollar trail is im not having alot of money probly because im 15
Also im still not sure how an Escrow works

im curious wich pattern you are thinking of

~Ombc

hehe i figured you were something like 12yo or 15yo man, your was a bit too childish attitude to me so i felt uncomfy with it

I confirm i will not issue a license to you at this point as overall you are even minor. If you want we can solve this issue in the good way tho, removing each other negative feedback and learning a lesson on both sides:

1.- Prolly i need more patience with kiddos
2.- Keep doing your life expereinces son, but try a different approach with adults.

~Gun

PS: i suggest you to not sign your messages like that ~...QS doesnt like it Wink

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Hey Nice too meet you! i'm Ombc :D


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February 25, 2017, 11:52:20 AM
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Well Finally i understand what is wrong here you think im a russian? and an hacker because i was in your group?
Anyway i now understand why you dont give trails but why didnt you told me this early?

Im from the netherlands and 15 years old
i dont even know how to get on darknet and russia is like chineese for me Tongue
why i wanted it for a 10 dollar trail is im not having alot of money probly because im 15
Also im still not sure how an Escrow works

im curious wich pattern you are thinking of

~Ombc

hehe i figured you were something like 12yo or 15yo man, your was a bit too childish attitude to me so i felt uncomfy with it

I confirm i will not issue a license to you at this point as overall you are even minor. If you want we can solve this issue in the good way tho, removing each other negative feedback and learning a lesson on both sides:

1.- Prolly i need more patience with kiddos
2.- Keep doing your life expereinces son, but try a different approach with adults.

~Gun

PS: i suggest you to not sign your messages like that ~...QS doesnt like it Wink


Good Smiley lets forgive and learn from this

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February 25, 2017, 11:55:29 AM
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Well Finally i understand what is wrong here you think im a russian? and an hacker because i was in your group?
Anyway i now understand why you dont give trails but why didnt you told me this early?

Im from the netherlands and 15 years old
i dont even know how to get on darknet and russia is like chineese for me Tongue
why i wanted it for a 10 dollar trail is im not having alot of money probly because im 15
Also im still not sure how an Escrow works

im curious wich pattern you are thinking of

~Ombc

hehe i figured you were something like 12yo or 15yo man, your was a bit too childish attitude to me so i felt uncomfy with it

I confirm i will not issue a license to you at this point as overall you are even minor. If you want we can solve this issue in the good way tho, removing each other negative feedback and learning a lesson on both sides:

1.- Prolly i need more patience with kiddos
2.- Keep doing your life expereinces son, but try a different approach with adults.

~Gun

PS: i suggest you to not sign your messages like that ~...QS doesnt like it Wink


Good Smiley lets forgive and learn from this

lol ok removed the negative feedback son
Have a nice day

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