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February 26, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
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Indeed, all addresses spotted here are not spamming but used by komodo notary nodes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.0

here is the full list:

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February 26, 2017, 03:01:28 PM
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all addresses spotted here are not spamming but used by komodo notary nodes
And what is the difference? Grin
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February 26, 2017, 03:15:12 PM
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all addresses spotted here are not spamming but used by komodo notary nodes
And what is the difference? Grin

Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.

It's great to hunt spamming tx to figure out what is happening on BTC network, just saying you can ignore those addresses for your hunt  Wink
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February 26, 2017, 03:26:56 PM
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Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.

The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down Smiley and force users to use another ways to communicate.

But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.
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February 26, 2017, 04:02:11 PM
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Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.

The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down Smiley and force users to use another ways to communicate.

But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.

Ok I got your point Smiley
To explain it, i saw a mention of this thread initially on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1776143 so my intervention was mostly to tell people that are searching for spam attacks to ignore the addresses mentioned above.
By attacks i mean actions to affect BTC network on purpose.

Now, even if i like your analogy, considering that komodo transactions are spamming the BTC blockchain is indeed a question of point of view...
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February 26, 2017, 04:04:19 PM
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Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.

The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down Smiley and force users to use another ways to communicate.

But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.

Ok I got your point Smiley
To explain it, i saw a mention of this thread initially on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1776143 so my intervention was mostly to tell people that are searching for spam attacks to ignore the addresses mentioned above.
By attacks i mean actions to affect BTC network on purpose.

Now, even if i like your analogy, considering that komodo transactions are spamming the BTC blockchain is indeed a question of point of view...


Hopefully there won't be other coins that decide to do things like this in the future; blocks are already full enough as it is and we don't need more txs on the chain. Komodo had a great initiative but it's just bogging down the bitcoin blockchain with its method of tx verification.
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February 26, 2017, 04:31:59 PM
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Disable free transactions or have a master node(like GOLEM) which is a decentralized super computer to filter low fees or no fees transactions.
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February 26, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
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yea those people have some sort of enemy with bitcoin and may be they belong to developers group of other altcoins. To slow the network bitcoin they might create such havoc condition.
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February 26, 2017, 06:56:12 PM
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yea those people have some sort of enemy with bitcoin and may be they belong to developers group of other altcoins. To slow the network bitcoin they might create such havoc condition.

I can imagine some altcoins have an interest in seeing the bitcoin network harmed in any way.
Not many really because they are mainly traded against BTC currently.
And certainly not komodo because it offers a service that rely on it.
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February 27, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
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Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.

The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down Smiley and force users to use another ways to communicate.

But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.

Ok I got your point Smiley
To explain it, i saw a mention of this thread initially on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1776143 so my intervention was mostly to tell people that are searching for spam attacks to ignore the addresses mentioned above.
By attacks i mean actions to affect BTC network on purpose.

Now, even if i like your analogy, considering that komodo transactions are spamming the BTC blockchain is indeed a question of point of view...


Hopefully there won't be other coins that decide to do things like this in the future; blocks are already full enough as it is and we don't need more txs on the chain. Komodo had a great initiative but it's just bogging down the bitcoin blockchain with its method of tx verification.



When a company's website has lots of traffic, you don't tell the user's to stop using it, you upgrade the server right?

Utility gives value, otherwise bitcoin would be at 0 still.





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February 27, 2017, 09:19:31 PM
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When a company's website has lots of traffic, you don't tell the user's to stop using it, you upgrade the server right?
This is the major difference between centralized and decentralized technologies.
Your advice is for centralized buiseness.
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February 27, 2017, 10:45:14 PM
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I think it is have a relationship with this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737342.0

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February 28, 2017, 02:35:49 AM
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When a company's website has lots of traffic, you don't tell the user's to stop using it, you upgrade the server right?
This is the major difference between centralized and decentralized technologies.
Your advice is for centralized buiseness.

There is no difference. In a centralized environment you increase the resources, in this case BTC increases the block size. Everything is a choice.





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February 28, 2017, 02:36:50 AM
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Correct. We are accounting for about 0.2% of the tx's maybe so not really a huge deal.





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February 28, 2017, 03:47:42 AM
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Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.

The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down Smiley and force users to use another ways to communicate.

But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.


Speak for yourself.  I am a bitcoin user and I don't consider these transactions spam.   Anyone is free to
use the network as they want.  That is the very essense of 'permissionless'. 

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Those are the addresses being used to hide a spam attack on the Blockchain. These guys know that we are operating on a network, where most blocks are about 80% full, so they just spam the network with useless transactions to fill up these blocks to cause backlogs and severe congestion.

The motives is unclear, but people seem to think that it has something to do with SegWit or BU where a "fake" congestion is being forced onto people to get them to make a decision and to break the gridlock.

Others seem to think, miners are behind this. They create a backlog and then people will pay higher miners fees to get their transactions confirmed. This leads to more profits for them.

What a sad situation for everyone else to see this technology being manipulated by greed.

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February 28, 2017, 06:30:42 AM
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Those are the addresses being used to hide a spam attack on the Blockchain. These guys know that we are operating on a network, where most blocks are about 80% full, so they just spam the network with useless transactions to fill up these blocks to cause backlogs and severe congestion.

The motives is unclear, but people seem to think that it has something to do with SegWit or BU where a "fake" congestion is being forced onto people to get them to make a decision and to break the gridlock.

Others seem to think, miners are behind this. They create a backlog and then people will pay higher miners fees to get their transactions confirmed. This leads to more profits for them.

What a sad situation for everyone else to see this technology being manipulated by greed.
wow very interesting and  didnt realise this is going on..unbelievable

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Those are the addresses being used to hide a spam attack on the Blockchain. These guys know that we are operating on a network, where most blocks are about 80% full, so they just spam the network with useless transactions to fill up these blocks to cause backlogs and severe congestion.

The motives is unclear, but people seem to think that it has something to do with SegWit or BU where a "fake" congestion is being forced onto people to get them to make a decision and to break the gridlock.

Others seem to think, miners are behind this. They create a backlog and then people will pay higher miners fees to get their transactions confirmed. This leads to more profits for them.

What a sad situation for everyone else to see this technology being manipulated by greed.
wow very interesting and  didnt realise this is going on..unbelievable

I would at least people look through this thread to see these miners fees being paid by Komodo notary nodes to recycle the hash rate of the bitcoin network to protect the Komodo chain.


Www.komodoplatform.com and checkout the white paper.

We have been doing this since Oct last year consistently. We use the Bitcoin network like any other user. The short sighted view that we are spamming the bitcoin network is crazy, we are paying fees for txs. If it can't handle the amount of txs it is a problem for the network, not of its users.





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February 28, 2017, 07:23:05 AM
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I deeply know that spamming blockchain is a harmful things that people do to bitcoin and that will be reason why take times to get confirm a transaction. But I don't know that why do they do that? They want to crash blockchain down? or want to delay the transaction to get their purpose (I mean if a trading don't confirmed too long - about 48 hours - the fund will be send back to sender right?). And how can you find these transaction, how about detect it and report to blockchain developer?
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February 28, 2017, 07:30:13 AM
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When a company's website has lots of traffic, you don't tell the user's to stop using it, you upgrade the server right?
This is the major difference between centralized and decentralized technologies.
Your advice is for centralized buiseness.

if you think about it, in the centralized environment there is not a single person that take the full decision about a task, for their service, they always consult between 10 people or s

it's not very different than miners deciding about the future of bitcoin, it's just more hard because of 10 people we have 100 that need to decide...
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