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February 26, 2017, 11:26:11 PM
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The rumor is a 2048-bit bus @ 1GHz (half the bus of Fiji, double the frequency) = same bandwidth.

In terms of computing horsepower the rumor estimates 12.5TFlops compared to Fiji's 8.5TF. doesn't seem like a huge difference on paper.
The VRAM capacity is likely 8GB. (2X4GB stacks) Maybe more in the future (2x6GB stacks of HBM?)

What is your estimated hashrate on popular crypto algos like ETH and ZEC? I personally don't think it's gonna be a game-changing chip. maybe later when it becomes affordable and beats the 480 on price/perf ratio.




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February 26, 2017, 11:38:09 PM
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You know they are testing how these cards mine, I wonder if they use claymore...
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February 26, 2017, 11:59:49 PM
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You know they are testing how these cards mine, I wonder if they use claymore...

What do you mean?

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February 27, 2017, 01:03:38 AM
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You know they are testing how these cards mine, I wonder if they use claymore...

Even if there is testing going on with these cards the full potential won't be available until they are officially released and the devs can optimize for the new technology.
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February 27, 2017, 03:59:18 AM
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You know they are testing how these cards mine, I wonder if they use claymore...

What do you mean?

He is implying that AMD wants to make a card for gamers and miners as they know it would sell better.

At least that's my guess.

If the card can hash at a higher number with less power per hash

 miners will want it badly.

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February 27, 2017, 07:22:44 AM
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Im actually doubtful a manufacturer actually think about mining, even with thousands of card, it's still a drop in the water for them, that said, since they're dominated by nvidia in the gaming/embed world, possible they try to appeal to more markets, you never know, they did kinda the same with the opteron against intel for server CPU and were able to make quite a good hole with a pretty good product. Also the market of PC has been on the decline for a while now, so that may be a good way to make up for the difference.

We'll see ! I don't except that much difference price/performance ratio against the 470/480, but let's wait for the numbers  Wink

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February 27, 2017, 07:48:11 AM
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Im actually doubtful a manufacturer actually think about mining, even with thousands of card, it's still a drop in the water for them, that said, since they're dominated by nvidia in the gaming/embed world, possible they try to appeal to more markets, you never know, they did kinda the same with the opteron against intel for server CPU and were able to make quite a good hole with a pretty good product. Also the market of PC has been on the decline for a while now, so that may be a good way to make up for the difference.

We'll see ! I don't except that much difference price/performance ratio against the 470/480, but let's wait for the numbers  Wink

same i can already see, that they are similar to 1070 performance, minus a better boost on eth where amd excel

the only good thing is that the 1070 price might come down tnx to them...
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February 27, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
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Im actually doubtful a manufacturer actually think about mining, even with thousands of card, it's still a drop in the water for them, that said, since they're dominated by nvidia in the gaming/embed world, possible they try to appeal to more markets, you never know, they did kinda the same with the opteron against intel for server CPU and were able to make quite a good hole with a pretty good product. Also the market of PC has been on the decline for a while now, so that may be a good way to make up for the difference.

We'll see ! I don't except that much difference price/performance ratio against the 470/480, but let's wait for the numbers  Wink

same i can already see, that they are similar to 1070 performance, minus a better boost on eth where amd excel

the only good thing is that the 1070 price might come down tnx to them...

If that is the same as 1070, it is a big disappoint.
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February 27, 2017, 08:42:45 PM
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expensive cards don't ROI well

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February 27, 2017, 10:06:08 PM
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Im actually doubtful a manufacturer actually think about mining, even with thousands of card, it's still a drop in the water for them, that said, since they're dominated by nvidia in the gaming/embed world, possible they try to appeal to more markets, you never know, they did kinda the same with the opteron against intel for server CPU and were able to make quite a good hole with a pretty good product. Also the market of PC has been on the decline for a while now, so that may be a good way to make up for the difference.

We'll see ! I don't except that much difference price/performance ratio against the 470/480, but let's wait for the numbers  Wink

I can tell you for a fact that AMD has their own crypto currency hardware lab that tests mining using their technology. It's a multiple $100 million+ market that is growing at break neck speed. They would have to be idiots not to care.

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February 27, 2017, 10:07:01 PM
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You know they are testing how these cards mine, I wonder if they use claymore...

What do you mean?

He is implying that AMD wants to make a card for gamers and miners as they know it would sell better.

At least that's my guess.

If the card can hash at a higher number with less power per hash

 miners will want it badly.

At ballpark $5-$600 I don't foresee it making any major waves in the mining world until price drops considerably from introduction rates.

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February 27, 2017, 10:28:52 PM
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Im actually doubtful a manufacturer actually think about mining, even with thousands of card, it's still a drop in the water for them, that said, since they're dominated by nvidia in the gaming/embed world, possible they try to appeal to more markets, you never know, they did kinda the same with the opteron against intel for server CPU and were able to make quite a good hole with a pretty good product. Also the market of PC has been on the decline for a while now, so that may be a good way to make up for the difference.

We'll see ! I don't except that much difference price/performance ratio against the 470/480, but let's wait for the numbers  Wink

I can tell you for a fact that AMD has their own crypto currency hardware lab that tests mining using their technology. It's a multiple $100 million+ market that is growing at break neck speed. They would have to be idiots not to care.

Sorry to be a skeptic, but.... Source?
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February 28, 2017, 12:02:39 AM
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Im actually doubtful a manufacturer actually think about mining, even with thousands of card, it's still a drop in the water for them, that said, since they're dominated by nvidia in the gaming/embed world, possible they try to appeal to more markets, you never know, they did kinda the same with the opteron against intel for server CPU and were able to make quite a good hole with a pretty good product. Also the market of PC has been on the decline for a while now, so that may be a good way to make up for the difference.

We'll see ! I don't except that much difference price/performance ratio against the 470/480, but let's wait for the numbers  Wink

I can tell you for a fact that AMD has their own crypto currency hardware lab that tests mining using their technology. It's a multiple $100 million+ market that is growing at break neck speed. They would have to be idiots not to care.

Sorry to be a skeptic, but.... Source?

These days, you never know. It may be an actual fact, or it may be a Trump'ed fact (i.e. propaganda fiction).
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February 28, 2017, 01:09:59 AM
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Im actually doubtful a manufacturer actually think about mining, even with thousands of card, it's still a drop in the water for them, that said, since they're dominated by nvidia in the gaming/embed world, possible they try to appeal to more markets, you never know, they did kinda the same with the opteron against intel for server CPU and were able to make quite a good hole with a pretty good product. Also the market of PC has been on the decline for a while now, so that may be a good way to make up for the difference.

We'll see ! I don't except that much difference price/performance ratio against the 470/480, but let's wait for the numbers  Wink

I can tell you for a fact that AMD has their own crypto currency hardware lab that tests mining using their technology. It's a multiple $100 million+ market that is growing at break neck speed. They would have to be idiots not to care.

Sorry to be a skeptic, but.... Source?

These days, you never know. It may be an actual fact, or it may be a Trump'ed fact (i.e. propaganda fiction).

I don't know about marketing to miners but mininig programs are good for perforrmance and stress testing.

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