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June 30, 2017, 08:12:47 PM
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I like to play chess. But "Go" has more probabilities than chess. "Go" is a delightful strategy game like chess.

Which is your favorite?

Number of probabilities is a poor way to evaluate a game. In chess and go, a huge number of possibilities can be eliminated immediately. So the actual reasonable probabilities change dramatically. The same is true of poker.

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June 30, 2017, 10:42:02 PM
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Maybe chess is better, also a damn traditional game.
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June 30, 2017, 10:55:36 PM
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I don't know what is "Go", so chess. haha
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July 01, 2017, 03:26:33 AM
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Maybe chess because that's my hobby

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July 01, 2017, 11:12:25 AM
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I would say Chess! At least for me.
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July 02, 2017, 08:19:07 AM
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I love Go, it seems to me more like a kind of art than chess, there's more intuition in Go. But chess is a great game, no doubt about it!
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July 02, 2017, 03:26:38 PM
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I prefer chess because by playing chess our brains are made to think of strategies to defeat the opponent.

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July 03, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
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I never has a chance to play go, is that chinese checkers? I always​ see it and watch it on television but I can't understand it. I love chess so much it helps my focus skills and enhances my memory.

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July 03, 2017, 04:12:59 PM
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I prefer chess !! but go is a good game too



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July 03, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
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I like to play chess. But "Go" has more probabilities than chess. "Go" is a delightful strategy game like chess.

Which is your favorite?

This thread should have a poll.  Roll Eyes

Honestly, I'd say Go > Chess. However, I'd prefer Crazyhouse Chess over Go.

Also, shout out to other Go Gophers Wink

I never has a chance to play go, is that chinese checkers? I always​ see it and watch it on television but I can't understand it. I love chess so much it helps my focus skills and enhances my memory.

No. Go is entirely different than Chinese Checkers. Go is pretty straight forward. Drop tiles to surround space / enemies. Don't get surrounded yourself.

I prefer chess because by playing chess our brains are made to think of strategies to defeat the opponent.

Go is the exact same. Except Go has more strategy than chess.

Maybe chess is better, also a damn traditional game.

Go predates Chess by nearly 1000 years. Go is the traditional game.

I like to play chess. But "Go" has more probabilities than chess. "Go" is a delightful strategy game like chess.

Which is your favorite?

Number of probabilities is a poor way to evaluate a game. In chess and go, a huge number of possibilities can be eliminated immediately. So the actual reasonable probabilities change dramatically. The same is true of poker.



Eh. Maybe, but Go still has more moves. For example, there is something like 10 opening moves in Chess (8 pawns + 2 knights), with a 19x19 grid (standard rules), that's 361 opening moves. Sure, a 100 to 200 of those moves aren't the greatest (counter-meta), but it's still hundreds more moves than Chess.

Never actually played GO before but Chess is a classic

Meh, Go is more of a classic than Chess. I suppose it depends on where you were born, but Go does predate Chess by nearly a millennium.
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July 03, 2017, 06:38:15 PM
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Eh. Maybe, but Go still has more moves. For example, there is something like 10 opening moves in Chess (8 pawns + 2 knights), with a 19x19 grid (standard rules), that's 361 opening moves. Sure, a 100 to 200 of those moves aren't the greatest (counter-meta), but it's still hundreds more moves than Chess.


You've just paraphrased exactly what I said. Number of possible moves creates the probability. There are 20 opening moves in chess. After each move, the number of possible moves increases (whereas in Go, the number of possible moves decreases with each move). After just 4 moves in chess (1 by each side), there are more than 250 billion possible positions. I don't know if 100 initial moves are really reasonable in Go, probably it is much less than this? But even if not, both chess and Go are practically infinite. One could imagine a contrived game with a much larger number of possible moves that isn't going to be more complex than these games.

As an example: someone created an abstract game called Arimaa that has 64,000,000 possible opening set-ups. This dwarfs Go. Is that game superior to Go (and chess), and more complex?

So using number of possible moves is a poor way to look at game complexity, or game superiority.
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July 03, 2017, 08:04:53 PM
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July 04, 2017, 10:39:30 AM
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What is GO? Is it a CS GO? Cheesy
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July 04, 2017, 11:01:23 AM
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What is GO? Is it a CS GO? Cheesy

Sometimes   Roll Eyes I choose chess.
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July 04, 2017, 03:01:45 PM
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I like the fact that go is still in the domain of possible human dominance whereas no human in a million years could beat a computer at chess. Against another person I do prefer chess though.
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July 04, 2017, 03:15:41 PM
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I like the fact that go is still in the domain of possible human dominance whereas no human in a million years could beat a computer at chess. Against another person I do prefer chess though.

Nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo
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July 04, 2017, 03:28:04 PM
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I like the fact that go is still in the domain of possible human dominance whereas no human in a million years could beat a computer at chess. Against another person I do prefer chess though.

Nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo

Which is why I said "possible" dominance. AlphaGo doesn't win all the time and can be beat even though it is still improving. In chess every single possible combination of a game has already been mapped and a computer cannot lose.
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July 04, 2017, 05:55:21 PM
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Сhess
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July 04, 2017, 05:56:07 PM
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I like chess
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July 04, 2017, 11:14:00 PM
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I like the fact that go is still in the domain of possible human dominance whereas no human in a million years could beat a computer at chess. Against another person I do prefer chess though.

Nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo

Which is why I said "possible" dominance. AlphaGo doesn't win all the time and can be beat even though it is still improving. In chess every single possible combination of a game has already been mapped and a computer cannot lose.

Not quite. AlphaGo scales with CPU. With a datacenter behind it, it'd be unbeatable.
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