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March 02, 2017, 05:05:23 PM
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Hi,

ich ziehe aus einem EU-Land bald nach Deutschland, und hätte gerne ein Paar Fragen im Thema Bitcoin/Altcoin Steuer. In Deutschland werde ich einen Job haben (und will nicht meinen Lebensunterhalt mit Bitcoin verdienen), und werde nicht in Form einer Firma mit Bitcoin handeln.

Wenn ich richtig verstehe, ist im Falle einer mehr als einem Jahr lang beibehaltener Bitcoin/Altcoin der Coin->EUR Wächsel steuerfrei, falls ich diese zB. mithilfe eines Blockchains nachweisen kann. Ist das richtig? Muss ich auch die Quelle des Coins nachweisen können? (Diese habe ich ausserhalb von Deutschland erworben.)

Die andere Frage wäre: falls ich zwischen zwei Altcoins wechseln möchte, wann ist diese steuerpflichtig?

Beispiel:

im Januar 2017 kaufe ich ETH im Preis von 1BTC,
im Februar 2017 verkaufe ich das ETH zum Preis von 2BTC,
und im Juni 2018 verkaufe ich die 2BTC-s in EUR.

Wie funktioniert in diesem Fall die Besteuerung?
Genügt es, wenn ich vor dem coin->eur Wechsel den Coin über ein Jahr lang ohne Umwandlung beibehalte?

Vielen Dank

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March 02, 2017, 05:44:25 PM
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It is still not 100% clear and if the profits are high, it is better to ask a tax consultant.

But from what I think to know:
- You only need to prove, that you own them over a year, that should be all.
- Every trade with bitcoin, regardless if it is against fiat or another cryptocurrency is officially a taxable transaction.
Your example:
- Divide the first process in selling 1 BTC to actual EUR market price and buy ETH to actual EUR market price. If there is no EUR market price for ETH, convert the BTC price into EUR.
And that is how you continue with every trade.



I have a question to you (or any other that knows an anser):
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March 02, 2017, 05:52:16 PM
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Thanks. It would be great to know before the profits are realized, as I might be able to prevent unnecessary conversions that would induce taxes. My only worry is that - since it seems like there is no clear ruling here - two tax advisors would have two different answers Smiley

Regarding your question: Denmark? Anything non-corporate bitcoin trading seems tax-exempt afaik.
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